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Offline thundley4

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DUmmies always want rebellion except when they don't.
« on: April 17, 2015, 01:36:33 PM »
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Star Member n2doc (37,059 posts) Fri Apr 17, 2015, 11:25 AM
No, Ted Cruz, the 2nd Amendment doesn’t protect your right to rebellion

by Jon Green

Yesterday, TalkingPointsMemo reported that Texas Senator Ted Cruz sent an email to supporters urging them to send him money to make him president so that he could, as president, protect their right to violently overthrow the president.

As the email read:

The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution isn’t for just protecting hunting rights, and it’s not only to safeguard your right to target practice. It is a Constitutional right to protect your children, your family, your home, our lives, and to serve as the ultimate check against governmental tyranny — for the protection of liberty


Cruz’s assertion was so absurd that Lindsey Graham — sporting an A rating from the NRA — not-so-subtlely compared Cruz to Jefferson Davis, pointing out that as far as armed rebellions go, “we tried that once in South Carolina. I wouldn’t go down that road again.”

The email is a reprisal of a meme normally reserved for NRA forums and first year government seminars at Liberty University, trotted out by gun activists once they’ve run out of arguments for why they so desperately need to keep an arsenal of high-caliber weapons stockpiled in their toolshed.

How historically nonsensical and utterly baseless Cruz’s claim is shouldn’t bear repeating, but if a US senator and declared presidential candidate is taking the argument seriously, it does.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026522498

No, DUmmie. the Declaration of Independence spells out the right of free men to rebel against tyrannical governments.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

The 2nd amendment provides a means to that end, so Cruz is right.

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Gothmog (15,704 posts)
1. The Second Amendment is not a suicide pact that allows overthrow of US govt

I find the concept that the Second Amendment promotes the overthrow of the US govt. to be idiotic

It doesn't promote it, it preserves the right.

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4. Especially considering just how outgunned they are

"We'll overthrow the government with our AR-15s!!!!" - Idiotic Whackjobs

"Bang" - shot from 50-cal machine gun on M1A2 tank, impervious to AR-15 bullets.
"Bang" - shot from 30mm chaingun under Apache Attack helicopter, out of range of AR-15
"Boom" - Hellfire missile from Predator drone, out of range of AR-15
"Boom" - Precision-guided 500lb bomb dropped by B1 bomber...or B2 bomber...or F-35...or F-22...or A-10...or.....
"Boom" - Rocket from MLRS system 100 miles away.
"Whoosh-Boom" - Tomahawk cruise missile from a ship over the horizon.
"Bo-bo-boom-boom-boom-boom-bo-boom-boom..." Didja know one B-52 can carry about 20 cluster bombs?

An armed rebellion that only has weapons generally available to civilians will not go very well.

If push comes to shove, you'll be surprised by which side the majority of the military takes.

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6. Dunno,

Taliban insurgents are still around after 12 years in Afghanistan.

Shut up troll.

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n2doc (37,059 posts)
12. US nut jobs are too soft and weak

Living in caves without their fox news would get pretty old quick.

 :rofl:

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8. Did you serve in the military?

If so, how inclined would you have been to drop bombs on your fellow citizens and their neighborhoods?

How about on your own neighborhood?

Aside from that, we're currently fighting a war against people who can make rifles in caves and use them to give all of the ordnance you mentioned a pretty good run for its money.

I'm willing to bet a domestic insurrection wouldn't face near as harsh a response as the Afghan insurgency is currently facing.

Another mole?
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Re: DUmmies always want rebellion except when they don't.
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2015, 01:40:38 PM »
Someone is putting out mole bait.
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Re: DUmmies always want rebellion except when they don't.
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2015, 08:10:38 PM »
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4. Especially considering just how outgunned they are

"We'll overthrow the government with our AR-15s!!!!" - Idiotic Whackjobs

"Bang" - shot from 50-cal machine gun on M1A2 tank, impervious to AR-15 bullets.
"Bang" - shot from 30mm chaingun under Apache Attack helicopter, out of range of AR-15
"Boom" - Hellfire missile from Predator drone, out of range of AR-15
"Boom" - Precision-guided 500lb bomb dropped by B1 bomber...or B2 bomber...or F-35...or F-22...or A-10...or.....
"Boom" - Rocket from MLRS system 100 miles away.
"Whoosh-Boom" - Tomahawk cruise missile from a ship over the horizon.
"Bo-bo-boom-boom-boom-boom-bo-boom-boom..." Didja know one B-52 can carry about 20 cluster bombs?

An armed rebellion that only has weapons generally available to civilians will not go very well.

OK dummie... I'll play.  300 plus million in the US. Let us just say 300 million, makes it easier for you to understand the math. Half are conservatives. 150 million.  What is the current strength of the US military?  I bet it ain't anywhere close to 150 million. Quantity is a quality in and of itself. Besides half the military will probably join the revolution.  Maybe more.  By the time the obumbles US government gets you libbies drafted, in shape and trained, the revolution will be over.
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Re: DUmmies always want rebellion except when they don't.
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2015, 08:16:17 PM »
And the powder used at Bunker Hill was stolen from Fort William and Mary IIRC :-)
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Re: DUmmies always want rebellion except when they don't.
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2015, 10:45:30 PM »
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If push comes to shove, you'll be surprised by which side the majority of the military takes.

 :cheersmate:

..add the great majority of local Law Enforcement, also.  I hope the (D)Ullards aren't counting on the Guard, either.

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An armed rebellion that only has weapons generally available to civilians will not go very well.



You don't say....?  I wonder where they got these?  All it would take is the ...."cooperation" .. of two individuals (that I know personally) and I would have access to two Infantry Companies MTOE of Individual and Crew Served Weapons, up to and including, M-2HBs and MK-19's.

In less than 24 hours, idiots.

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Besides half the military will probably join the revolution.  Maybe more

More.  That's an ironclad certainty.  The spark that would start it could not be covered up.  They will know what's going on.
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Re: DUmmies always want rebellion except when they don't.
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2015, 12:04:18 AM »
Quote from: 98ZJUSMC on April 17, 2015, 10:45:30 PM
:cheersmate:

..add the great majority of local Law Enforcement, also.  I hope the (D)Ullards aren't counting on the Guard, either.



You don't say....?  I wonder where they got these?  All it would take is the ...."cooperation" .. of two individuals (that I know personally) and I would have access to two Infantry Companies MTOE of Individual and Crew Served Weapons, up to and including, M-2HBs and MK-19's.

In less than 24 hours, idiots.

More.  That's an ironclad certainty.  The spark that would start it could not be covered up.  They will know what's going on.

These idiots don't have a clue! Every single military member I know, and I am a Gold Circle Member of the VFW, will protect LIBERTY!

Unlike you cowards, we are willing to fight and die to keep our freedom.

I'd welcome the chance to "put a cap in yer ass"!
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Re: DUmmies always want rebellion except when they don't.
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2015, 09:21:34 AM »
I don't think they have any idea just how small the US military actually is, or what people in it think.  It's far from being all Conservative in the ranks, though the large majority of the officers and senior NCOs are, but damned few of even the Democrat troops would want any part of that BS.
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Re: DUmmies always want rebellion except when they don't.
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2015, 09:31:26 AM »
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4. Especially considering just how outgunned they are

"We'll overthrow the government with our AR-15s!!!!" - Idiotic Whackjobs

"Bang" - shot from 50-cal machine gun on M1A2 tank, impervious to AR-15 bullets.
"Bang" - shot from 30mm chaingun under Apache Attack helicopter, out of range of AR-15
"Boom" - Hellfire missile from Predator drone, out of range of AR-15
"Boom" - Precision-guided 500lb bomb dropped by B1 bomber...or B2 bomber...or F-35...or F-22...or A-10...or.....
"Boom" - Rocket from MLRS system 100 miles away.
"Whoosh-Boom" - Tomahawk cruise missile from a ship over the horizon.
"Bo-bo-boom-boom-boom-boom-bo-boom-boom..." Didja know one B-52 can carry about 20 cluster bombs?

An armed rebellion that only has weapons generally available to civilians will not go very well.

Why is it you mutts drool over these notions when it comes to fantasies about your fellow citizens you disagree with but scream in rage at any suggestion we do such things to muzzies that have sworn to kill us?
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Re: DUmmies always want rebellion except when they don't.
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2015, 11:43:21 AM »
Quote from: Carl on April 18, 2015, 09:31:26 AM
Why is it you mutts drool over these notions when it comes to fantasies about your fellow citizens you disagree with but scream in rage at any suggestion we do such things to muzzies that have sworn to kill us?

I've often wondered that.
It's as if they have more in common with our mortal enemies than with their own fellow countrymen.
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Re: DUmmies always want rebellion except when they don't.
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2015, 09:48:47 AM »
Quote from: Carl on April 18, 2015, 09:31:26 AM
Why is it you mutts drool over these notions when it comes to fantasies about your fellow citizens you disagree with but scream in rage at any suggestion we do such things to muzzies that have sworn to kill us?

NO SHIT!

Another thin g they fail to realize is the inventiveness of those of us with the means and will to defeat most anything short of nuclear weapons. You'd think they would learn a little somethin' from their buds in Hamas, ISIS, and their heroes like Suddenly Insane, Achmed, and Bin Loaded full 'O lead. They sure as hell seem to put up some pretty good resistance with nothing more than $50 AK's, a little TNT and a cell phone!

****in' idiots!
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