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daredtowork says Oakland mean to seniors, dump silent
« on: April 04, 2015, 11:46:08 PM »
This is a bonfire of zero right now.  I thought mexifornia was a liberal mecca where all folks are taken care of?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10409709

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Growing Number of Oakland Seniors are Homeless
The housing crisis spreads from San Francisco to Berkeley to Oakland, and it primarily impacts seniors and the disabled. The standard "fixed income" is under 1k/month - far below market rate for housing in the Bay Area!

http://oaklandlocal.com/2015/03/growing-number-of-oakland-seniors-are-homeless/

I love how this article underscores how homelessness exacerbates health problems and disabilities, which just makes it all the more difficult to climb back out of homelessness. Earlier today another DU person mentioned that the current line of thinking of treatment for PTSD is to stabilize housing first. I would add facing homelessness and attempting to survive homelessness inflicts PTSD in the first place. The current social services infrastructure treats food as basic, but stable housing and a position of normalcy to pivot from is just as basic.

Here is an additional reminder of the 800,000+ people living in poverty in the Bay Area...

http://siliconvalleyindicators.org/pdf/poverty-brief-2015-03.pdf

...while Mayor Bates of Berkeley builds $6000/month shoebox condos, hoots at black flight, and dances on the graves of those who couldn't hold out long enough for a regime change.
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Re: daredtowork says Oakland mean to seniors, dump silent
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2015, 11:50:55 PM »
Oakland and Berkley's city governments are killing homeless old people?

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Re: daredtowork says Oakland mean to seniors, dump silent
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2015, 12:30:51 AM »
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This is a bonfire of zero right now.

Like they're going to acknowledge failure.   ::)  The only (D)Ummy answers authorized are:

1. reTHUGliKKKans.
2. Ronny Raygun.
3. Boooooooooooooshhhhhhcheneyrove eLeBinTy!!!!!
4. Jooooooooooooooooos destroyed Oakland, I tells ya.
 
and their most recent addition:

5. War on Gheys!!!11!!!  Or, wymmmyns!!!!1111!!!
              

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Re: daredtowork says Oakland mean to seniors, dump silent
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2015, 10:42:07 AM »
Wow! Quite a patchwork quilt of factoids!

The "standard 'fixed income' is under 1k/month"? Really? I have my doubts, but if so, that is way under the cost of housing in the SF Bay Area, but what obligates taxpayers to subsidize those people's choices to live in the most expensive part of CA, to the tune of $2000-$3000 per month per household?

Notice how the DU-person slippy-slides from "homelessness" to "poverty", as if those were identical, and giving the false impression that 800000 people are homeless in the SF Bay Area. The largest proportion - probably the majority - are the mentally ill and the chemically-dependent, who either are incapable of living an ordinary lifestyle or choose not to. Giving such people government goodies and housing will solve nothing, and the housing will be trashed and destroyed. I'm not being heartless, just realistic.

Now, other than Berserkeley being a neighbor city to Oakland, how'd dtw slippy-slide from Oakland-SF issues to Berserkeley? Other than that (s)he wanted to rant against Mayor Tom Bates?

"... while Mayor Bates of Berkeley builds $6000/month shoebox condos ...". Mayor Bates has been Mayor of Berserkeley for 12 years, and is somewhere between very liberal and very "Progressive". IOW, pretty much what the lib/Prog Berserkeley students and profs want and have voted for in 4 successive elections. Own it, Ds, libs, and Progs! Bates is your boy! As to "$6000/month shoebox condos", I don't have to go to the Oakland Tribune or Craig's List websites to know that is at least double the ordinary rent for reasonably pleasant SF Bay Area apartments. And I seriously doubt the City of Berserkeley is building luxury condos. Berserkeley may permit such high end housing to be built, but that is very different. IOW, exactly the kind of dishonest hysterical misrepresentation I would expect from a Prog such as dtw (who probably doesn't ... work). I don't care for Tom Bates or the City of Berserkeley, and seeming to "defend" them feels weird, but if you're going to slam them for something they're doing, it should be something they're actually doing, IYKWIM.

The SF Bay Area is a very expensive area to live. Foreign competition has forced Silicon Valley electronics companies to do manufacturing overseas. High wages forced Ford and GM to close their manufacturing plants in Milpitas and Fremont, respectively. Many residents of the South Bay are high-paid engineers, sales/marketing, and manglement people. OTOH, the various cities restrict where housing can be built and shake down developers and builders of housing - make building new housing very expensive. So, on the Supply side, government makes housing artificially scarce and costly to make; on the Demand side the people seeking to buy or rent are high-paid and bid up the price. Further government interference and shake-downs will only make things far worse.

BTW (I've mentioned this several time before, but it is relevant to what I've posted), the "SV" in my forum name refers to where I live, Silicon Valley, and I've lived here since the Carter Administration.
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Re: daredtowork says Oakland mean to seniors, dump silent
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2015, 03:28:44 PM »
^^Incisive analysis SV.
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