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primitive has back problems
« on: February 27, 2015, 06:02:14 PM »
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potone (557 posts)  Sun Feb 22, 2015, 07:30 PM 

Has anybody here tried using CBD for pain relief and anti-inflammation?
 
I have multiple back problems, including arthritis. The problem is acute if I sit up for long. Over the counter drugs don't help, and I don't want to take an opiate. I have read that CBD, derived from hemp, which is legal, works for some people. Do any of you have any experience with it?

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mopinko (43,259 posts)    Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:12 PM

1. get the to a pain doc.
 
there are many pain meds out there that are not opiates.

why dont you want to take them, anyway? people who have actual pain dont get hooked. 

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potone (557 posts)    Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:38 PM

2. I've been to a pain doctor.
 
He is the one who wants to prescribe an opiate. I am on other medication so that affects what he prescribes. But I also have a very bad case of IBS and I don't want to deal with the side effects of opiates, which can aggravate that condition. Hence my interest in CBD.

^^^primitive needs to add fiber and roughage to his diet; it'll roto-rooter out that irritated bowel in a hurry.

But.....some primitives just like feeling miserable; they can't cope with feeling good.

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mopinko (43,259 posts)    Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:47 PM

3. ah ha.
 
tramadol might work for you. doesnt have the same sides. 

^^^Big Mo the unlicensed pharmacist.

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NightWatcher (26,245 posts)    Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:39 PM

4. I smoke a lot of weed
 
I've rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, lupus nephritis, mixed connective tissue disease, dermatomyositis, and Raynauds.

I have pain daily, either from muscle deteriorating, cramping, or weakness. I refuse to take any more opiates.

I do not live in a state where cannabis is legal but I do not care. Laws be damned

It helps with the pain and peripheral neuropathy. If I smoke it for a week in a row, I feel it's effects for 3-5 days after that.

Find someone who can set you up and start experimenting for yourself on yourself. 

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F4lconF16 (1,336 posts)    Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:19 PM

5. Had a friend who used it for everything from seizure meds to pain killers.

She had severe pain a lot, and it helped her a ton. I have other friends who use it for pain relief. It can be very effective. I know it's made a huge difference to help me sleep the last couple nights and recover from a hard fall while riding home.

You'll want to get something with high CBD levels, though there are a lot more chemicals from hemp that can help you. Here's a good reference: 

after which a chart, the purpose of which escapes one

You can look on labels and they'll tell you what levels of cannibinoids are in them. Here's an example:

after which a photograph of some hippie-looking product

This goes for edible products and the like as well.

This is assuming you live in a state which makes it legal for you to go pick it up yourself and if you want to figure it out. Otherwise, I would suggest going to a dispensary as they have good ideas on what particular product is best, or talking to a doctor about it as well.

Cannibis and hemp products are incredibly helpful and diverse in their effects. I, and almost everyone I know who has used it, are fully in favor of using it medicinally. They really do work for many people.

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potone (557 posts)    Tue Feb 24, 2015, 08:33 PM

6. Thank you, that is very helpful.
 
I do live in a state where marijuana is legal for medicinal purposes, but I think my pain doctor is the type who disapproves of it, and would rather have me take a narcotic, which makes no sense to me. Come July, it will be legal here in Oregon for recreational use, but legal shops apparently won't open until January, 2016. In the meantime, I will either have to ask a different doctor or see if the CBD works: I don't want to get high, just to get pain relief so that i can go back to doing research. I know that they sell it in Washington, but it is a risk for an Oregon resident to re-enter the state with any kind of pot purchased in Washington.
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Re: primitive has back problems
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2015, 06:32:47 PM »
Am I bad?
Seeing the title, the first thing I thought of was, "Not another BainsBane thread!"
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Re: primitive has back problems
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2015, 06:54:06 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on February 27, 2015, 06:32:47 PM
Am I bad?
Seeing the title, the first thing I thought of was, "Not another BainsBane thread!"

Actually, there's something going on with BainsBane over there.

Instead of screeching about women's liberation, she's on some sort of kick where she posts anti-Russian, pro-Ukrainian items.

<<<has no idea what's up with that; it's not the usual her.
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Re: primitive has back problems
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2015, 08:19:58 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 27, 2015, 06:54:06 PM
Actually, there's something going on with BainsBane over there.

Instead of screeching about women's liberation, she's on some sort of kick where she posts anti-Russian, pro-Ukrainian items.

<<<has no idea what's up with that; it's not the usual her.

Perhaps she has some Ukrainian ancestry?
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Re: primitive has back problems
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2015, 09:08:31 PM »
Quote from: franksolich on February 27, 2015, 06:54:06 PM
Actually, there's something going on with BainsBane over there.

Instead of screeching about women's liberation, she's on some sort of kick where she posts anti-Russian, pro-Ukrainian items.

<<<has no idea what's up with that; it's not the usual her.

franksolich, it's obvious. Alex has read your tales of adventure in the former socialist utopias, and she's trying to catch your eye.
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Re: primitive has back problems
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2015, 09:20:14 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on February 27, 2015, 09:08:31 PM
franksolich, it's obvious. Alex has read your tales of adventure in the former socialist utopias, and she's trying to catch your eye.

yup.

Once you go Frank....
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Re: primitive has back problems
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2015, 10:25:40 PM »
Quote from: dutch508 on February 27, 2015, 09:20:14 PM
yup.

Once you go Frank....
Not only is she trying, she succeeded.
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Re: primitive has back problems
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2015, 10:36:20 PM »
Quote from: Big Dog on February 27, 2015, 09:08:31 PM
franksolich, it's obvious. Alex has read your tales of adventure in the former socialist utopias, and she's trying to catch your eye.

Well, it's pretty pointless on her part then, because while I'm not sure how the saga of paranoia's going to end--or when--I don't foresee her being any character in it.
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Re: primitive has back problems
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2015, 01:53:15 PM »
I hope it is a lot of pain. My suggestion is "final solution."
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Re: primitive has back problems
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2015, 02:43:42 PM »
Tip for DUmmies. Be less hateful and angry. That would make you back pain less severe.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2015, 03:41:42 PM »
Quote from: Ptarmigan on February 28, 2015, 02:43:42 PM
Tip for DUmmies. Be less hateful and angry. That would make you back pain less severe.

Ptarmy, you've been at the chicken feed again--do you think that, for a nanosecond, the DUmmies would listen to anyone who was even a smidgeon to the Right from them?
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Re: primitive has back problems
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2015, 04:41:40 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on February 28, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
Ptarmy, you've been at the chicken feed again--do you think that, for a nanosecond, the DUmmies would listen to anyone who was even a smidgeon to the Right from them?

I know. I was just saying.
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