Omaha Steve post turns into bickering over all caps

[dixierose]

Oh my (as Coach says)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141018616

Omaha Steve (47,253 posts)

WAL-MART RAISES WILL STILL LEAVE MANY UNABLE TO PAY EXPENSES

Source: AP

BY JOSH BOAK

WASHINGTON (AP) -- For roughly 500,000 Wal-Mart workers set to receive pay raises, something is better than nothing.

But it still won't be enough for many of them to afford housing and transportation and feed and raise children without government aid, according to economists and researchers.

The nation's largest private employer - with 1.3 million jobs - unveiled a salary bump for many of its lowest-paid workers on Thursday, promising a 1.1 percent increase in the average full-time wage over the next year, to $13 an hour. Part-time workers would get a 5.2 percent raise, to an average $10 an hour, by February 2016.

Both fall below the $15 an hour "living wage" many union-backed Wal-Mart employees have been pushing for. Driven by rising income inequality and a decades-long decline in middle-class jobs, workers are also campaigning for steep wage hikes at other major non-unionized employers, including McDonalds and other fast food chains.

FULL story at link.

 

Wal-Mart President and Chief Executive Officer Doug McMillon speaks during an interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday, Feb. 17, 2015, in Bentonville, Ark. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is spending $1 billion to change how it pays and trains hourly staff in a move it hopes will help reshape the image that it only offers dead-end jobs. (AP Photo/Gareth Patterson)

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_WAL_MART_LIVING_WAGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-19-17-28-35

greyl (17,214 posts)
1. LOOK AT THIS:

http://www.unit-conversion.info/texttools/capitalize-words/

All caps for no good reason are annoying to many, and usually avoidable.

Omaha Steve (47,253 posts)
2. It is the title verbatim from the AP


IF the hosts say it is ok to change the type set, I'm fine with it.

It is also considered shouting in many circles.

OS

greyl (17,214 posts)
7. I understand, OS. However,

"verbatim" doesn't typically include capitalization that obscures meaning or otherwise adds no meaning. Acronyms become less easy to distinguish if other surrounding text is capitalized.

2, the exact text from the article without CSS styling is "Wal-Mart raises will still leave many unable to pay expenses". Screen readers for the sight impaired should interpret the headline at the original site correctly, because they ignore the CSS style telling other user's browsers to render the title in all caps. But when their "styled" titles are pasted onto DU or other sites, the actual HTML text is all caps, so screen readers have a more difficult time interpreting correctly.

3. It's bloody annoying to many, and a quick and easy thing to address, especially for stories where the passage of a few extra seconds prior to publishing won't result in some bad outcome.

4. The same article is available without the all cap headlines from non AP Excite sources.

Omaha Steve (47,253 posts)
8. I sent the question to the hosts


Just waiting for a reply.

AP Excite doesn't actually do all caps.

I wonder if it is a hold over from the old teletype days? All caps makes it easy to scan for a title.

greyl (17,214 posts)
9. Sort of a holdover, maybe, but

in a group of titles (DU LBN headlines) all caps for no meaningful reason doesn't help anything.

MESSAGES SENT WITHIN THE U.S. NAVY NO LONGER HAVE TO BE WRITTEN OUT IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS.

Since the 19th century, all official Navy communications have been written that way, a legacy of primitive technology combined with the service's love of tradition.

But in the modern age, young sailors more accustomed to texting on their phones consider TYPING IN ALL CAPS akin to shouting. Typographers, meanwhile, have long maintained that all-caps text is hard on the eyes.

So the Navy, amid a modernization of its communications system, decided it would make its official messages more readable—and potentially less rude..


http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324049504578541813637044462

csziggy (17,628 posts)
10. If changing the type face means you have less time to post news

I vote that you continue to post more news article links.

A message all in caps is annoying, a subject header/title all in caps is not so much.

Thank you, Omaha Steve, for the time you put into bringing important news to DU's attention.

 

I guess any kind of attention is better than none.

[obumazombie]

The world is burning and the lib's (Dummies) first priority is getting caps protocol correct.

[ChuckJ]

Personally, I've never really understood the all caps issue.

Yes, I understand it's considered the internet equivalent to yelling. Yes, it can be aggravating to read. Yes, it takes a very lazy person to be too lazy to simply press the cap lock key.

With all of the above out of the way, if all you've got to bitch about in life is a message that's in all caps you've got a pretty easy life and should be thankful.

[Skul]

maKES perFectLY GOOd senSE tO ME!
Pound Hershy, obamaha Sweathog.

[Bad Dog]

Kinda wish OS would just go silently into that night.

[tanstaafl]

Kinda wish OS would just go silently into that night.

Barring a miracle of biblical proportions, Steve should shed this mortal coil, toot sweet. 'Specially since he likes to wile away his days on the couch, snackin'.

[dutch508]

****


~ in all caps...

[thundley4]

So Walmart raising their workers pay isn't going to be enough?  Watch how many of the other big retailers that have stores near Walmart are forced to match their wages. 

 

[obumazombie]

So Walmart raising their workers pay isn't going to be enough?  Watch how many of the other big retailers that have stores near Walmart are forced to match their wages. 

 

I totally forgot about that effect.
Little do libs understand economics or the law of unintended consequence.
Don't mess with stuff you don't know about.

[Carl]

So Walmart raising their workers pay isn't going to be enough?  Watch how many of the other big retailers that have stores near Walmart are forced to match their wages. 

 

It is telling,a company makes a business decision based on what it considers best for its long term viability and the DUmp bitches.

If the government had by fiat compelled them to to the same they would celebrate.

[thundley4]

It is telling,a company makes a business decision based on what it considers best for its long term viability and the DUmp bitches.

If the government had by fiat compelled them to to the same they would celebrate.

They wiil still single out Walmart as they are the largest Non-Union employer in the world.

[GOBUCKS]

It wasn't more than a year ago that the DUmp had a series of knock-down-drag-out brawls with nadin over the exact same issue.

She used the same annoying all-cap style for headlines from news stories.

The Big Guy is probably trying to emulate her style but he hasn't a chance.

nadin handled the criticism so much better than the Big Guy.

She would return the critics' fire with increasing savagery until they would finally give up and leave.

There is no DUmmy who is even the smallest fraction as entertaining as the crazy bald dwarf.

[Ptarmigan]

DUmmies. What do you expect?