White lightening, white lightening, this is ground beef control!!I grabbed the whole thread since it was short
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10026098493Hissyspit (44,011 posts)
Obama Ditches the Centrists: How a Break From Neoliberalism Boosted His Popularity
http://www.salon.com/2015/01/17/obama_ditches_the_centrists_how_a_break_from_neoliberalism_boosted_his_populariy
SATURDAY, JAN 17, 2015 08:00 AM EST
Obama ditches the centrists: How a break from neoliberalism boosted his popularity
The president's more popular than he's been in nearly two years. Here's why that should have neoliberals scared
ELIAS ISQUITH
All that said, both Wang’s data and an anecdotal impression of recent (not-conservative) media will tell you that Obama’s ascending popularity kicked off sometime between late November and mid-December. Not incidentally, this was also the period when the president began not only acting more aggressively in terms of using his power unilaterally, which he’s actually been doing in some form or another since last year, if not earlier, but also supporting policies that could be easily characterized as typically liberal. In November, he announced a major change in how the federal government handled undocumented immigrants, which predictably cost him support from working-class whites but further established his party as the pluralist, multicultural alternative to the overwhelmingly white GOP. And in December, he not only spoke more frankly about his blackness than he had at any point in his presidency, but also announced a break from a half-century-plus-old policy by taking steps to normalize relations with Cuba.
Having walked head-on toward what have historically been two of the Republicans’ most effective attacks on Democrats — the party’s association with nonwhites and its “softness†in the realm of foreign policy, especially regarding communists — Obama went even further in January by unveiling a plan to offer millions of Americans a college education for free. He did this despite the fact that the policy would easily be described by conservatives as promoting “big government†(as indeed it was), and despite the fact that the plan’s funding would be unapologetically redistributionist. Much more than the Affordable Care Act, which also relied on using high-end taxes to provide health insurance for the working class and the poor but did so through an embrace of subsidies and by relying on market incentives, Obama’s college plan represented a straightforward argument for having government do what a broken market could not. This was not a DLC, neoliberal-style proposal to encourage the market to act, through outsourcing and tax incentives. This was simply using government.
To many, that probably seems like a distinction without a difference. But that would only be true if the neoliberal model of deregulation, outsourcing, privatization and free trade that was made Democratic Party orthodoxy by Bill Clinton (and Labour Party orthodoxy by Tony Blair) could actually reach traditional liberal ends through traditionally conservative means. You’ll certainly be able to find those who disagree, but I believe the verdict is in, and it is negative. That doesn’t mean the era of neoliberal government is over, of course; there are still plenty of high-profile “New Democrats,†like Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo or the woman who is likely to be the party’s next presidential nominee. For that matter, Obama’s recent “My Brother’s Keeper†initiative and his continued support for the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade proposal show that he himself has hardly made a clean break from the “third way.â€
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 03:33 PM
Star Member Tierra_y_Libertad (42,901 posts)
2. Neo-liberalism is to Liberalism what Botulism is to nutrition.
Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #2)
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:14 PM
whereisjustice (991 posts)
7. +1
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 03:51 PM
n2doc (35,613 posts)
3. Until he ditches the TPP I won't believe it.
And Common Core.
Response to n2doc (Reply #3)
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:55 PM
Star Member Populist_Prole (4,176 posts)
11. +1
Populist is, as populist does.
Ok I guess someone might know what that means.
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 03:58 PM
Star Member malaise (126,350 posts)
4. He should have ditched them from day one
Neo-liberalism is a worse failure than communism.
Right.
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 03:59 PM
Vattel (5,414 posts)
5. He has improved! And his DOJ is now ditching civil forfeiture. More progress.
Sure he has. Sure he has.
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:04 PM
Star Member JDPriestly (46,923 posts)
6. Neo-Liberalism has failed.
Let's just say liberalism always fails.
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:44 PM
Star Member Martin Eden (5,286 posts)
9. Who is the real Obama?
The one who catered to centrists the first 6 years of his presidency, or the one who ditched them after it was pretty much too late to get meaningful legislation passed?
Is this a trick question? No really.
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:44 PM
Star Member zeemike (15,627 posts)
10. It's nice but too late.
Now that we have the GOP in the congress nothing will or can be done about what he says.
So what he says means nothing, it is just to make us feel good...and perhaps sucker us into a Trojan horse.
Safely pandering to the useful idiots
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:56 PM
KG (25,296 posts)
12. heh. um, no.
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:58 PM
muriel_volestrangler (74,923 posts)
13. Looking at the Gallup presidential approval figures:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx
The upswing is stronger for older age groups (65+: +6% in the last 4 weeks, 50-64 +2%, 30-49 +3%, 18-29 -2%);
Midwest +4%, South +3%, East and West unchanged;
White +4%, Black -4%, Hispanic -5%;
College graduates +6%, non-graduates +1%;
Liberals +1%, Moderates +6%, Conservatives -2%
Married +6%, unmarried no change.
So it looks like it's moderates that he's appealing more to now (moderate Democrats +4%, liberal/moderate Republicans +3%, liberal Democrats +2%, conservative Democrats +2%, conservative Republicans -1%, 'pure independents' -7%).
OH please. At this point what difference does it make??
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:59 PM
Star Member whatchamacallit (10,453 posts)
14. Too little, too late
If ya ask me.
Just enough and right on time.
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:07 PM
wyldwolf (37,610 posts)
15. eh
Here's a dose of Political reality. Obama doesn't have another election to win. Democrats have already lost Congress. He can throw red meat to Progressives now without worrying about congressional battles. Just make a lot of noise, throw in a few executive orders and let the next batch of candidates defend or run from them as they will. Obama will never have to.
Where were all these lofty promises when Dems controlled all three branches?
The comments on the piece are much more insightful than the actual article.
Since Obama's record has been uniformly neoliberal; he now has no hope of getting liberal legislation through Congress, making the community college initiative purely symbolic; he's still pushing the utterly neoliberal "free trade" agreements; and the utterly neoliberal Ms. Clinton is slated to be the party's next nominee - I think Mr. Isquith has succumbed to a sudden onslaught of wishful thinking.
"Obama’s clearly begun to reverse the rightward drift his party has experienced over the past generation."
That's bold assertion based on a month or two of slightly tweaked policy prescriptions with no hope of being passed into law.
If/when the Democratic party legislators also start fighting for real liberal solutions and passing them when they have the opportunity to do so, then such a statement would be appropriate.
Whoops someone is on to the scheme
Response to wyldwolf (Reply #15)
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:19 PM
Star Member bbgrunt (4,095 posts)
17. +1
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:16 PM
navarth (4,351 posts)
16. As the Jimmy Rushing recording would say...
'Sent For You Yesterday, Here You Come Today'
(He recorded it with the Count Basie Orchestra. Check it out. You won't be sorry.)
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:21 PM
DerekG (2,854 posts)
18. Far too late for Mr. Hope n' Change
Had he used his '09 mandate to prosecute the banksters, he'd be as popular as FDR. As it is, he's left scrambling for a legacy.
And he would be a poor as a church mouse. He may be a traitor but he ain't no fool.
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 05:24 PM
1000words (4,323 posts)
19. A day late, and a dollar short.
Yah ... I'm sure neoliberals are scared.
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Sat Jan 17, 2015, 06:11 PM
Star Member Unknown Beatle (1,131 posts)
20. He has a couple of years
left with both houses controlled by repugs, so it's just smoke he's blowing in our faces.
He pushed hard for the provision that dismantled part of Dodd-Frank. Yeah, that's breaking from Neoliberalism alright.
My my my looks like a few DUmmies may have figured it out. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.
