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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: I_B_Perky on December 23, 2014, 08:41:01 PM
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Nothing special about this thread other than the fact that OS hasn't become worm food yet.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014972415 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014972415)
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Omaha Steve (45,227 posts)
On lead bullets, judges rule against environmentalists
Source: AP-Excite
By PETE YOST
WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal appeals court has ruled against environmentalists who are trying to force the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate spent lead bullets and lead shot used in hunting and shooting sports.
In a decision favorable to gun enthusiasts, the U.S. District Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said Tuesday that environmental groups have suggested no way in which EPA could regulate spent lead bullets and shot without also regulating cartridges and shells.
The Toxic Substances Control Act exempts cartridges and shells from regulation.
The National Rifle Association and much of the pro-gun lobby intervened on the EPA's side in urging the federal appeals court to uphold the dismissal of a lawsuit by 101 environmentalist organizations.
FULL story at link.
Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141223/us-epa-spent-lead-bullets-9fef87c939.html
I'll bring over the entire thread without comment.
Dont call me Shirley (3,140 posts)
1. Below the post was an ad stating "join the NRA"
The irony of the many tentacled claws of these gun monsters
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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:15 PM
Star Member arcane1 (26,666 posts)
2. "The Toxic Substances Control Act exempts cartridges and shells from regulation"
That shouldn't surprise me.
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Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:31 PM
branford (1,734 posts)
3. There was no way the court was going to permit the EPA to effectively institute gun control
by ancillary bullet control.
In any event, as the article indicates, there are already a number of fairly noncontroversial federal and state statutes and regulations that deal with lead in bullets and shot.
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Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:50 PM
jwirr (26,565 posts)
4. Many hunters do not use these types of bullets anymore. At least those who care about the
environment.
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Tue Dec 23, 2014, 06:20 PM
Star Member Adrahil (2,161 posts)
5. I never use lead in wilderness shooting... Only at the range.
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Tue Dec 23, 2014, 06:25 PM
jwirr (26,565 posts)
6. A lot of my friends belong to Ducks Unlimited. They understand that if they use the lead and the
ducks eat it they will be done hunting.
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Tue Dec 23, 2014, 06:41 PM
Capt.Rocky300 (383 posts)
7. But some still do.........
We live in an area where huge numbers of swans and geese winter and feed in the fields. Every year we lose dozens of swans and hundreds of snow geese due to lead poisoning. My wife is a wildlife rehabber and I can tell you it is an incredibly sad event to watch these magnificent creatures suffer and die.
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Tue Dec 23, 2014, 07:04 PM
secondvariety (1,003 posts)
8. Can't interfere
with their God given right to cheaply shoot the shit out living creatures.
Wasn't Steve supposed to be sprouting daisies by now? Maybe he trying to get to 50,000 before he shuffles off to the next existence... which I expect will be a very warm place.
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Star Member Adrahil (2,161 posts)
5. I never use lead in wilderness shooting... Only at the range.
DUmmie Adrahitler is an idiot. If he's sighting in lead bullets, and using steel in the field, he ain't making any shots were it counts, where the ball meets the buck. The ballistics and range are nowhere near the same. And if his range in the field is beyond the the meeting point of scope and muzzle (in space, forward), he ain't hittin' shi'ite. I hope he wears running shoes while hunting, he's gonna need them to chase down wounded quarry.
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DUmmie Adrahitler is an idiot. If he's sighting in lead bullets, and using steel in the field, he ain't making any shots were it counts, where the ball meets the buck. The ballistics and range are nowhere near the same. And if his range in the field is beyond the the meeting point of scope and muzzle (in space, forward), he ain't hittin' shi'ite. I hope he wears running shoes while hunting, he's gonna need them to chase down wounded quarry.
Which makes him an inhumane hunter, wounding game unnecessarily instead of making clean kills.
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Which makes him an inhumane hunter, wounding game unnecessarily instead of making clean kills.
In most states, it's illegal. You have to give it your best effort. To knowingly use a 250 yard bullet at ranges over 300 yards is just, well, stupid to the worst degree. But then, we are talking DUmmie here. Unless he thinks plinking on federal land is still legal.