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Title: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: Eupher on December 15, 2014, 09:17:02 AM
...would be a basket case.

Pure fantasy? Or a virtual certainty?

By Kurt Schlichter:
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The July 4, 2019, ceremony marking the final dissolution of the United States of America was quite amicable compared to the anger and bitterness of the preceding five years. The 2014 election results created a map clearly defining “Red America” and “Blue America,” and it sparked a debate, unlike any in the last 150 years, over whether the United States should remain united. For many in the leftist coastal states – their progressivism constrained by the overwhelming Congressional advantage of the conservative interior states – the answer was, “No.”

As liberal thought leader Michael Tomasky wrote of the South, “Practically the whole region has rejected nearly everything that’s good about this country and has become just one big nuclear waste site of choleric, and extremely racialized, resentment…. Forget about the whole fetid place. Write it off. Let the GOP have it and run it and turn it into Free-Market Jesus Paradise. The Democrats don’t need it anyway.”

Soon, it became an article of faith within the liberal elite that it was not only their party that did not need the rest of America. Blue America itself, they argued, did not need Red America, economically, intellectually or morally. It was not long until newly-elected Governor De Blasio of New York demanded a national convention to discuss a parting of the ways. The President, her health poor and her heart firmly with the Blue America, half-heartedly tried to stop the movement, but more and more high profile Democrat politicians joined the chorus. The President yielded and called for a “national conversation on the way forward as separate nations.” Red America, furious at her continuation of Barack Obama’s rule by decree and interference in its affairs, agreed to attend.

Two years later, President De Blasio, elected leader of the Democratic States of North America, and President Abbott of the Republic of America, stood together on the platform on the border at St. Louis to sign the Dissolution Pact. The countries split the national debt and apportioned federal assets, while agreeing to temporarily share the currency. They divided the military (along with all nuclear capabilities), but signed a mutual defense agreement. There would be free travel between and through the new nations. “We will remain good neighbors,” President De Blasio remarked, “Even if we are no longer brothers, sisters, or differently-gendered siblings.” President Abbott politely maintained a poker face.

Rest at the link:
http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2014/12/15/nothing-succeeds-like-liberal-secession-blue-america-without-red-america-would-be-a-basket-case-n1931175/page/2
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 15, 2014, 09:30:46 AM
....STDs and drug overdoses soon rendered 'blue America' a waste land opening up new lands for the rednecks to settle.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: obumazombie on December 15, 2014, 09:52:18 AM
If only we could get rid of all our libs to another country.
But who would take them ?
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: Eupher on December 15, 2014, 10:05:17 AM
If only we could get rid of all our libs to another country.
But who would take them ?

They've got plenty of their own, especially in Europe.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 15, 2014, 10:35:19 AM
They've got plenty of their own, especially in Europe.
Liberals, they're like Santa Claus, there everywhere, there everywhere.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 15, 2014, 02:56:05 PM
St. Louis?  I don't think so.  And why would the Red hinterlands beyond the Blue coastal metro areas in some of those Blue states necessarily go along with the urban centers, instead of breaking away to form additional states who would make their own way?

The whole thing is incredibly silly.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 15, 2014, 03:12:25 PM
St. Louis?  I don't think so.  And why would the Red hinterlands beyond the Blue coastal metro areas in some of those Blue states necessarily go along with the urban centers, instead of breaking away to form additional states who would make their own way?

The whole thing is incredibly silly.
Why, if there is such a thing as climate change, are the supposedly smartest and brightest flocking to the costal regions where they might drown all the while claiming the ocean levels are rising? I think it's natures way of solving the "Liberal Problem'...like lemmings.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: Eupher on December 15, 2014, 05:01:55 PM
St. Louis?  I don't think so.  And why would the Red hinterlands beyond the Blue coastal metro areas in some of those Blue states necessarily go along with the urban centers, instead of breaking away to form additional states who would make their own way?

The whole thing is incredibly silly.

I read the whole thing as pure fantasy, with a twist.

The twist being, of course, the title of the thread. The Blue States - left to their own devices - would crumble. Of course, many socialists gleefully point at countries like Sweden and Norway and, to a lesser degree Germany and France, and bray about how well socialism is working out in those countries.

But those countries ain't the USA.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 15, 2014, 05:41:01 PM
I read the whole thing as pure fantasy, with a twist.

The twist being, of course, the title of the thread. The Blue States - left to their own devices - would crumble. Of course, many socialists gleefully point at countries like Sweden and Norway and, to a lesser degree Germany and France, and bray about how well socialism is working out in those countries.
But those countries ain't the USA.
And the population is mostly working white people with a work ethic and more or less unencumbered by those with a tan.

....but the idiots are letting in a lot of the suntan class that are milking the welfare system and breaking a lot of laws. They can't last much longer.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: freedumb2003b on December 15, 2014, 07:23:35 PM
"Blue America" would be overrun by Grand Fenwick inside a month, even withOUT her Lady's Hatpin!
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: Donpeyote on December 15, 2014, 07:24:21 PM
If only we could get rid of all our libs to another country.
But who would take them ?
Liberia ? :popcorn:
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: MrsSmith on December 15, 2014, 10:23:14 PM
Blue America is made up of large cities...they'd starve in a few weeks without red America.   :lmao:
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: txradioguy on December 16, 2014, 10:36:13 AM
Blue America is made up of large cities...they'd starve in a few weeks without red America.   :lmao:

Not to mention the newly formed "Red" America would've to quickly build a big wall and pass strict border enforcement policies to keep the Blues from sneaking in illegally.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: marv on December 16, 2014, 11:13:35 AM
...many socialists gleefully point at countries like Sweden and Norway and, to a lesser degree Germany and France, and bray about how well socialism is working out in those countries.

Socialism can be very successful with relatively small, steady and homogenous populations of advanced cultures. But as the population increases through birth and the immigration of differing, often conflicting cultures, Socialism begins to fail.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: obumazombie on December 16, 2014, 11:20:37 AM
Socialism can be very successful with relatively small, steady and homogenous populations of advanced cultures. But as the population increases through birth and the immigration of differing, often conflicting cultures, Socialism begins to fail.

Socialism works best when there is plenty of other people's wealth to spread around. That makes it last a little longer, until other people's money runs out.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: Eupher on December 16, 2014, 11:58:18 AM
Socialism can be very successful with relatively small, steady and homogenous populations of advanced cultures. But as the population increases through birth and the immigration of differing, often conflicting cultures, Socialism begins to fail.

Putting my socialism monocle on:

Germany's population, up till the Sixties, was relatively small, steady, and homogenous. And then they threw open their doors in their Gastarbeiter program and signed agreements in the mid-Fifties with various countries, which created a huge influx of foreigners, primarily Turkish.

Those initial workers have settled and have had families of their own x2 generations now. To a large extent, these people have assimilated into the country, but there are still large sections of Berlin (Kreuzberg) and other large cities that have entire districts -- poor and ghetto-like -- in which these people live.

I don't see any evidence that Germany's socialism is failing, certainly in comparison with say, Greece or Portugal. And they certainly have their share of "diverse cultures", especially since the Wall has come down and the country has been overrun by eastern Europeans looking for that gubmint handout that they're so accustomed to.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 16, 2014, 05:49:01 PM
To be fair, they did pull in a Hell of a lot of talent when the Wall went down, along with all the freeloading bums...people coming from countries where Socialism had REALLY failed in a big way, looking for opportunity.
Title: Re: Nothing succeeds like liberal secession: Blue America w/o Red America...
Post by: Eupher on December 16, 2014, 09:35:49 PM
To be fair, they did pull in a Hell of a lot of talent when the Wall went down, along with all the freeloading bums...people coming from countries where Socialism had REALLY failed in a big way, looking for opportunity.

That's probably true in some way, but I never saw any of it. All I saw were Eastie Beasties who had their hand out, expecting it to be filled. And that's what my German friends saw as well. They'd bend my ears for hours at that crap.