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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on December 13, 2014, 11:09:04 PM
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Rock head should be happy. They are the "Underground" again. It sucks for the party of the opposition to be in control. They are much better at protesting, marching, wringing their hands than running the government.
MineralMan (69,239 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025956106
If we do not pull together on DU, we will fly apart.
I'm at the end of my Saturday in front of the computer. I just finished the writing of a major website project, and am about to settle down with a strong gin and tonic, but I'm going to leave with the title of this OP hanging in the air. The 1% looking down his nose at the unwashed masses...
America ****ed up in 2014 and handed over control of Congress to the Republicans. There are many reasons for that, but the bottom line is that we flat did not elect enough Democrats to even retain control of the Senate. Uh... Mr. Obvious being obvious? In 2015, nobody has to run for office in Congress. What is going to come out of this Congress is going to be as ugly as three piles of dog crap. Worse, President Obama will have to sign some of it just to keep the country running.
If DU reacts by attacking the President even more harshly and attacking the Democrats in Congress, we are going to end up in 2016 with a Republican President and an even larger GOP majority in Congress. If the Democrats on this forum descend to in-fighting and ugliness, it will mean that the same is happening elsewhere, too.
In 2016, there is a strong risk of losing everything to the Republicans. Are we willing to allow that to happen, or will we fight to recover? I don't know. We'll see. I'm less than optimistic, though.
Let's all please think before we attack other Democrats. Please. Let's start pulling together to attempt to recover from what happened in 2014. Please. If we cannot, we will lose it all, I'm certain.
I will not be replying in this thread until later this evening. I'm tired, depressed, and frustrated. However, a project is all but finished, needing only proofreading and minor editing before being finished. I'll do that tomorrow. Maybe my mood will improve. Maybe it will not. This thread may be what makes the difference.
Please, let's work together for the next two years.
Can't we all just get along?
Warren Stupidity (40,379 posts)
1. If the Democrats in the Senate and Obama in the White House spend the next two years making deals that move this country even further right I will attack and attack and attack and attack.
Compromise is a good thing when the other side does it.
NoJusticeNoPeace (586 posts)
8. Many on DU are not Democrats, remember that.
I dont mean the ones that scream at Obama all the time about being 3rd way, though some of those are certainly undercover rovian minions, but most are just misdirected people who think they have the luxury of allowing a republican to take office while we get the perfect candidate.
Ever wonder why you see VERY few minority anti mainstream Dem party, or those types? Something to do about not having the luxury or the complexion with the protection to allow a republican to destroy everything....
I am not sure exactly what this one is on about?
If we cant come together, President Mitt Romney will kill 100,000 women with backroom abortions...right? as opposed to the millions of aborted people?
I mean can anyone tell me they are CERTAIN that wont happen?
Surely you all understand the mitt's and teapartiers of the world would have NO problem AT ALL allowing those deaths, right?
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Warren Stupidity (40,379 posts)
18. these "many of us" vote Democratic every ****ing election, thank you, we just aren't going to shut the **** up while our corrupt party of corporate minions takes the opportunity handed to them by the 2012 election to snuggle up in bed with their republican "opponents" and enact a bunch of corrupt awful legislation. **** that. **** being silent about it and **** all the loyalty oath my party right or wrong bullshit posts.
I think Warren isn't happy about Hillary being the DNC nod.
Demit (8,129 posts)
24. I'm a Democrat who's old enough to remember what Democrats used to stand for.
So, yeah, when I see Democrats in power not standing up for Democratic principles, when I see them going along with what Republicans have ALWAYS stood for, I'm going to criticize. You bet your ass I am.
I'm not your fictional character who's looking for the perfect candidate. I'm a Democrat who wants Democrats with the balls to be Democrats.
this should be good...
BootinUp (27,533 posts)
52. So what like 40, 50 years ago? Is that when real Democrats last existed?
:-)
NoJusticeNoPeace (586 posts)
104. Who said that? But if you vote in such a way that Mitt romney or rand paul can be elected, then you are doing what?
Ask someone who doesnt have that luxury, a woman who could die from an abortion or a minority who could lose rights...
NewDeal_Dem (77 posts)
82. I have no more room to embrace compromise. 4 months in the hospital with a rare & totally unexpected disease, 3 more months recoup time, the loss of my job & most of my savings, as well as my physical and mental stamina, means more compromise = death.
Did Omaha Steve change his forum name?
helpmetohelpyou (350 posts)
7. Obama should just switch parties and get it over with.. He' a republican through and through when it really comes down to it.
sure he is
NoJusticeNoPeace (586 posts)
13. Good, and if a republican president appooints a SC justice who overturns roe and your neighbor dies in a backroom abortion, will you still be OK with your decision? Or if that same repub president destroys the voting rights act and all but eliminates minority voting rights?
Its always the same bullshit with the leftists.
Rye Bread Pizza (28 posts)
108. Yes it is insane and not going to happen. Want to know why?
Because I saw the same hysteria with Reagan, Bush & Bush II.
I know the opposition are not the neanderthals we like to construct here on DU to amuse ourselves.
I have said before that we are not going to win hearts and minds by preaching to the choir in an echo chamber which seems to be the OP's wishes.
I would also like to add that if we are going to win over hearts and minds we need to understand that the people we oppose, even though we oppose them, are still people.
The occasional win by the opposition is not going to turn our country into Puritan England under Cromwell.
If we are going to win, we need to show the independents that our way is better, not by trying to vilify and revile the opposition.
oh, dear... you are not long for DU.
Andy823 (6,115 posts)
53. And the "real" democrats are?
The ones who want to shutdown the government no matter how bad it be for millions of Americans because they "think" they might get a better bill once republicans control both the House and Senate"
The ones who constantly bash the president and the democratic party in whole day after day after day?
The ones who rec up posts that call the president a "F ing used car salesman piece of shit"?
The ones who make things up with nothing to back their claims and who refuse to link to where they got their so called facts?
The ones who constantly stir things up to keep the board divided?
The ones who call anyone who supports the president, or the party, Obamabots, authoritarians, republican trolls, etc.?
The ones who want to "PURGE" the party of anyone who doesn't meet their purity standards?
I could go on and on, but I think you get what I am saying. Who gets to pick who are and who are not "real" democrats.
WilliamPitt (57,525 posts)
58. OMG DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND IS SO POWERFUL YOU GUYS
It's a web forum, so you'll pardon me if I continue to speak my mind.
Or you won't.
But that's what's going to happen.
:lol:
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Response to MineralMan (Original post)Sat Dec 13, 2014, 04:03 PM
Andy823 (6,115 posts)
19. It's already flying apart
Things here and not going to change, not for the better. There are to many parties here tying to divide the board, and more come in everyday. It's not their agenda to promote democratic ideas, or promote democrats in general. It's to continue to stir things up for whatever reason.
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MineralMan (69,239 posts)
I just finished the writing of a major website project
Impossible, unless the website is the DUmp.
This nitwit spends all day every day pontificating to his fellow DUmpmonkeys.
Lately he's spent full time campaigning for DOTY votes.
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Moochelle when she has her period ??????
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Moochelle when she has her period ??????
It ain't t called "the red monster" for nuthin'.
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There are many reasons for that, but the bottom line is that we flat did not elect enough Democrats to even retain control of the Senate.
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WilliamPitt (57,525 posts)
58. OMG DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND IS SO POWERFUL YOU GUYS
It's a web forum, so you'll pardon me if I continue to speak my mind.
Or you won't.
But that's what's going to happen.
Trustafarian butthurt..
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Ever wonder why you see VERY few minority anti mainstream Dem party, or those types? Something to do about not having the luxury or the complexion with the protection to allow a republican to destroy everything....
I am not sure exactly what this one is on about?
No clue, but the (D)Ummie...
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kqe9e8Pi2Ks/Te5eo2gf_rI/AAAAAAAAWF4/LmCVREaJBf4/s1600/fancy%2Bhuh.jpg)
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NewDeal_Dem (77 posts)
82. I have no more room to embrace compromise. 4 months in the hospital with a rare & totally unexpected disease, 3 more months recoup time, the loss of my job & most of my savings, as well as my physical and mental stamina, means more compromise = death.
I have been thinking about starting a new mole over at the DUmp. This ^^^ is the perfect template for a mole.
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NewDeal_Dem (77 posts)
82. I have no more room to embrace compromise. 4 months in the hospital with a rare & totally unexpected disease, 3 more months recoup time, the loss of my job & most of my savings, as well as my physical and mental stamina, means more compromise = death.
We told you owebumacare was going to be a total failure.
Thanks for plowing ahead and learning the hard way.
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Demit (8,129 posts)
24. I'm a Democrat who's old enough to remember what Democrats used to stand for.
So, yeah, when I see Democrats in power not standing up for Democratic principles, when I see them going along with what Republicans have ALWAYS stood for, I'm going to criticize. You bet your ass I am.
I'm not your fictional character who's looking for the perfect candidate. I'm a Democrat who wants Democrats with the balls to be Democrats.
He must not remember well. The Democrats stood for much more conservative principles 40 to 50 years ago.
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Demit (8,129 posts)
24. I'm a Democrat who's old enough to remember what Democrats used to stand for. like in the doorway of the schoolhouse.
So, yeah, when I see Democrats in power not standing up for Democratic principles, when I see them going along with what Republicans have ALWAYS stood for, I'm going to criticize. You bet your ass I am. You can bank on it.
I'm not your fictional character who's looking for the perfect candidate. I'm a Democrat who wants Democrats with the balls to be Democrats. Screw all the interns, male and female, drown them if you have to.
He must not remember well. The Democrats stood for much more conservative principles 40 to 50 years ago.