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Title: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: TerryOfromCA on December 11, 2014, 08:44:39 AM
Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender

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Students at one northern California high school are learning more than just the birds and the bees.

Along with local area groups, some parents are irate that their children’s sex ed class at Acalanes High School in Lafayette is being taught by employees of Planned Parenthood without their prior knowledge. They are also fuming over the methods and materials being used, including a checklist that asks students if they are “ready for sex” and another worksheet that describes how to give and obtain consent, as well as a diagram that uses a "genderbread" person for lessons in gender identity.

“[Parents] are very concerned,” Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute, a non-profit legal organization that is assisting the concerned parents, told FoxNews.com. “Planned Parenthood is not exactly the best when it comes to putting young people first.

“They get more grants from the promiscuity of children,” he added. “The material they have provided was material that mirrored their agenda.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/10/parents-angry-after-school-tells-13-year-olds-can-have-sex-choose-gender/
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: TerryOfromCA on December 11, 2014, 08:46:25 AM
 :mad:

Un-freekin'-believable!
Look at this stupidity:

(http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/876/493/genderbread%20chart.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Dori on December 11, 2014, 09:21:45 AM
Planned Parenthood is an evil organization, founded by an eugenicist.  It's no secret that PP makes their money on abortions.  With the abortion rate decreasing, they need more clients.  Sexualizing and encouraging promiscuity in  our naïve youth is surly one way to do that.

From the book "Naked Communist"

Communist Goals

#17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

#26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

 
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: longview on December 11, 2014, 10:10:12 AM
I would have a fit, too!  That garbage is absolutely insane.

I fear for the children. 
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Big Dog on December 11, 2014, 10:43:21 AM
'Genderbread Person'.

Unreal.
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Eupher on December 11, 2014, 11:28:56 AM
Commiefornia. Check.

Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Dori on December 11, 2014, 11:37:48 AM
Commiefornia. Check.

This crap happens all over the country, including red states.

 

Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Eupher on December 11, 2014, 12:12:30 PM
This crap happens all over the country, including red states.

 

Show me. (It's a Missouri thing.)

Stop being so damned defensive about your Communist state. You and perhaps a few others aren't wired that way, but the rest of your damned state is a blight on the rest of the country.

Don't like my comments? Then MOVE to someplace reasonably sane.
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Dori on December 11, 2014, 02:16:29 PM
Show me. (It's a Missouri thing.)

Stop being so damned defensive about your Communist state. You and perhaps a few others aren't wired that way, but the rest of your damned state is a blight on the rest of the country.

Don't like my comments? Then MOVE to someplace reasonably sane.

Oh my

Pulling up all my roots isn't an option plus all my family and friends are here.

As far as this over the top sex ed in our schools, it's slowly been creeping into all the schools.  Some states have recently passed laws to curtail it.  It's even in the Girl Scout program. 

The government also promotes it through funding and lots of organizations, besides Planned Parenthood, are involved.








Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Eupher on December 11, 2014, 03:54:22 PM
Oh my

Pulling up all my roots isn't an option plus all my family and friends are here.

As far as this over the top sex ed in our schools, it's slowly been creeping into all the schools.  Some states have recently passed laws to curtail it.  It's even in the Girl Scout program. 

The government also promotes it through funding and lots of organizations, besides Planned Parenthood, are involved.

Hmmm. You've been around CC long enough to know that when somebody says "Show Me" in response to a claim - that being your claim that "it's (whatever THAT is) slowly been creeping into all the schools."

And then you go on to say, "some states have recently passed laws..." - that what that person is looking for is substance to the claim that's being made.

Show me (provide a link) that says that other school districts are presenting "genderbread" bullshit, encouraging kids to have sex, and the rest of this horseshit that's tied to PP.

Yeah, I get the fact that PP is all over the damned country, festering, oozing, pus-ridden sore that it is. But show me that other school districts have actually brought in PP to "educate" their kids.

In other words, convince me that Commiefornia really isn't the train wreck that it appears to be and that what PP is doing in that hellhole of a state really isn't that common.

In other words, it's your opportunity to sell your state. Go for it.

I don't give a damn about whether or not your family is parked there. Makes no difference to me -- adults live where they choose to live and they suffer the consequences of those decisions.
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Big Dog on December 11, 2014, 04:11:29 PM
In response to the 'genderbread persons', I am going to bake Gingerdudes and Gingerchicks, with absolutely no gender confusion.

They won't be suitable for work or family gatherings. I guess I'll send them to njpines in a gift basket.

 :tongue:
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Eupher on December 11, 2014, 04:14:06 PM
In response to the 'genderbread persons', I am going to bake Gingerdudes and Gingerchicks, with absolutely no gender confusion.

They won't be suitable for work or family gatherings. I guess I'll send them to njpines in a gift basket.

 :tongue:

Tied with a pretty pink bow?  :rofl:
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Chris_ on December 11, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
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Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Eupher on December 11, 2014, 04:24:51 PM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/smileys/cookies_zpsa21b0379.jpg)

Damn, Dog, that was FAST! You had your cookie cutters on speed dial, dintcha?   :rotf: :lmao:
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Big Dog on December 11, 2014, 04:56:24 PM
Damn, Dog, that was FAST! You had your cookie cutters on speed dial, dintcha?   :rotf: :lmao:

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: SVPete on December 12, 2014, 09:40:20 PM
Show me. (It's a Missouri thing.)

Stop being so damned defensive about your Communist state. You and perhaps a few others aren't wired that way, but the rest of your damned state is a blight on the rest of the country.

Don't like my comments? Then MOVE to someplace reasonably sane.

Well, MO has a law, passed in 2007, that banned PP from PS Sex Ed classes. Whether that law is enforced and obeyed is another question, but I'll ignore it. OTOH, regarding PP and several nearby states' schools:

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-kansas-mid-missouri/local-training-education

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/arkansas-planned-parenthood-sex-ed_n_3047024.html --- But did this become law?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/22/graphic-sex-ed-class/

I just Googled the phrase "planned parenthood sex education (state name)", as you or Dori could have done. And FWIW, the "SV" of "SVPete" refers to Silicon Valley.
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: J P Sousa on December 12, 2014, 10:10:57 PM
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  Another sheet about sexual consent encourages students to initiate sex by asking questions such as "Is it okay if I take my pants off,"   

http://www.christianpost.com/news/planned-parenthood-distributes-genderbread-person-sex-ed-leaflet-at-school-teaches-students-they-can-be-genderqueer-genderless-two-spirit-131115/

I didn't ask that question till after I was married.  :whistling:
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Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Eupher on December 12, 2014, 10:26:55 PM
Well, MO has a law, passed in 2007, that banned PP from PS Sex Ed classes. Whether that law is enforced and obeyed is another question, but I'll ignore it. OTOH, regarding PP and several nearby states' schools:

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-kansas-mid-missouri/local-training-education

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/arkansas-planned-parenthood-sex-ed_n_3047024.html --- But did this become law?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/22/graphic-sex-ed-class/

I just Googled the phrase "planned parenthood sex education (state name)", as you or Dori could have done. And FWIW, the "SV" of "SVPete" refers to Silicon Valley.

Do you always do Dori's work for her?
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Eupher on December 12, 2014, 11:05:50 PM
Well, MO has a law, passed in 2007, that banned PP from PS Sex Ed classes. Whether that law is enforced and obeyed is another question, but I'll ignore it. OTOH, regarding PP and several nearby states' schools:

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-kansas-mid-missouri/local-training-education

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/arkansas-planned-parenthood-sex-ed_n_3047024.html --- But did this become law?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/22/graphic-sex-ed-class/

I just Googled the phrase "planned parenthood sex education (state name)", as you or Dori could have done. And FWIW, the "SV" of "SVPete" refers to Silicon Valley.

I'm glad you decided to do Dori's work for her. Gives me a chance to respond to my challenge to her, which she has conveniently failed to do.

Your first link makes clear that PP is not permitted in Missouri public schools. Period. Glad you made my case for me. Here's the policy:

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MISSOURI

Missouri Sexuality Education Law and Policy

Missouri law does not mandate sexuality education; however, in order to be accredited, school districts must teach HIV/AIDS-prevention education in elementary and middle school.

All instruction in human sexuality must be medically and factually accurate. It must also:

[P]resent abstinence from sexual activity as the preferred choice of behavior in relation to all sexual activity for unmarried pupils because it is the only method that is one hundred percent effective in preventing pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases [STDs] and the emotional trauma associated with adolescent sexual activity, and advise students that teenage sexual activity places them at a higher risk of dropping out of school because of the consequences of sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancy.

Instruction must also:

[P]resent students with the latest medically factual information regarding both the possible side effects and health benefits of all forms of contraception, including the success and failure rates for the prevention of pregnancy and STDs [and teach students not to make] unwanted physical and verbal sexual advances or otherwise exploit another person.

Although school districts are not required to follow it, the Missouri Department of Elementary and Secondary Education produced the Missouri Framework for Curriculum Development in Health Education and Physical Education. This Framework includes instructional guidelines for HIV/AIDS- and STD-prevention education starting at the high school level. School boards must determine the specific content of sexuality education classes and make sure that it is age-appropriate.

The school district must also notify parents and guardians about:

•    The basic content of the district's human sexuality instruction to be provided to the student; and
•    The parent's right to remove the student from any part of the district's human sexuality instruction.

This is referred to as an “opt-out” policy.

See Missouri Revised Statute 170.015, Missouri's HIV Prevention Education Program ¸ and Missouri Framework for Curriculum Development in Health Education and Physical Education.2

Golly gee. This looks like a pretty solid policy to me. I can get behind this. We don't need PP to come in and present graphic photos of pornography in the guise of "sex education."

Your second link talked toward how horrible it would be for Arkansas to defund PP and lamented how HIV (which isn't a huge problem any more) and other STD programs would be axed too. In the end, the legislation failed and PP continues to inflict its wounds on the state of Arkansas. It's too bad that Dori got you to do her dirty work for her. She might've been able to waggle a finger at me.  :whatever:

http://www.siecus.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Feature.showFeature&featureid=2293&parentid=478

Your third link, which is old dating back to 2010, asserts that certain Iowan parents are highly pissed off about the graphic sex education classes that PP brought to bear in that state. Apparently, PP is still allowed in Iowa, with parental consent (which PP has tried to remove in other places, including Iowa).

The link below is obviously biased, but it does support my statement above concerning Iowa.

http://www.iowartl.org/get-the-facts/planned-parenthood/pp-and-children/

In short, what we have here is an organization -- PP -- which hides behind certain arguably "noteworthy" efforts to "educate" young people concerning sex. They do so by putting pornographic images on screen for youngsters.

PP is in the abortion business. You can sugarcoat this all you like, but the fact remains. They kill babies.

PP's annual report 2012-2013 says they get 45% of their money from "Government Health Services Grants and Reimbursements". That's my tax money (federal and state, due to the accounting jigsaw puzzle that makes it difficult to track where the money goes) going to support that criminal organization.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/7413/9620/1089/AR-FY13_111213_vF_rev3_ISSUU.pdf

So their own obfuscation and trickery is designed to keep youngsters in the business of having sex, having babies, and eventually aborting them. PP does a great job of hiding behind the complete opposite of what I just described, but I and many others didn't just fall off a turnip truck.

I also note that PP's PAC also donates quite heavily to Democratic candidates, including Barry.

I have seen your posts before, SVPete. I personally don't give a damn where you live -- whether in Commiefornia or some 3rd world country. The internet is a big place.

Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: obumazombie on December 12, 2014, 11:50:24 PM
Having a smorgasbord of genderhood to choose from at state expense is a basic human right.
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: SVPete on December 13, 2014, 08:05:54 AM
Do you always do Dori's work for her?

It was a "challenge" worth a couple of minutes' Googling. And I'm not around the Cave often enough to do that. Is Dori in poor graces with folks here?
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: SVPete on December 13, 2014, 08:48:16 AM
Your first link makes clear that PP is not permitted in Missouri public schools. Period. Glad you made my case for me. Here's the policy:

Golly gee. This looks like a pretty solid policy to me. I can get behind this. We don't need PP to come in and present graphic photos of pornography in the guise of "sex education."

Re MO, my post stipulated that: "MO has a law, passed in 2007, that banned PP from PS Sex Ed classes." It was in my first sentence, where I thought you might see the statement. Did you not read even my first sentence? And speaking of not reading things, hed you even glanced over the whole page of that first link, you would have seen that PP is working in KS schools.

Your second link talked toward how horrible it would be for Arkansas to defund PP and lamented how HIV (which isn't a huge problem any more) and other STD programs would be axed too. In the end, the legislation failed and PP continues to inflict its wounds on the state of Arkansas. It's too bad that Dori got you to do her dirty work for her. She might've been able to waggle a finger at me.  :whatever:

So, you didn't notice that PP is working in AR schools? I thought you were challenging Dori to show that PP has such access to schools outside of CA. And AR, the state has been funding what PP does.

Your third link, which is old dating back to 2010, asserts that certain Iowan parents are highly pissed off about the graphic sex education classes that PP brought to bear in that state. Apparently, PP is still allowed in Iowa, with parental consent (which PP has tried to remove in other places, including Iowa).

2010 is "old"?! :o The link demonstrates, in answer to your "challenge" to show that PP is in schools in states outside of CA that PP is involved in Iowa schools. And in your post you affirmed that, a mere 4 years after the date of the article I linked, that PP still is.

In short, what we have here is an organization -- PP -- which hides behind certain arguably "noteworthy" efforts to "educate" young people concerning sex. They do so by putting pornographic images on screen for youngsters.

PP is in the abortion business. You can sugarcoat this all you like, but the fact remains. They kill babies.[p/quote]

Gee, wasn't that what Dori said, that PP is in schools all over the US?

And why do you think I would be reluctant to state that PP kills babies? Are you under the illusion that I am Pro-Abortion? I am Pro-Life and have been from the time when I first gave thought to the issue some 4 decades ago; I have never been Pro-Abortion.

I have seen your posts before, SVPete. I personally don't give a damn where you live -- whether in Commiefornia or some 3rd world country. The internet is a big place.

I've been around CC off and on since late 2009, so I don't doubt you've seen my posts. And perhaps you even remembered previous explanations of the "SV". OTOH, you aren't the only person reading this thread. So I thought explaining that I am from CA might be of interest to some of those reading this thread: it's called disclosing one's perspectives and biases.

And just to be clear, I am quite unhappy with what CA has become - whether under the MALAdministration of Ds Jerry Brown (both MISIncarnations) and Gray Davis, or under the MISManglement of RINOs Arnold Schwarzenegger and Pete Wilson. Unlike some here, I have not mentally consigned all 30M+ CA'ians to political Hades. There are a lot of good conservative people here. I noticed at least two of the 64 Rs who voted against the spendaholic Cromnibus are Rs (do I have to point out that they were voted into office? multiple times?).
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Eupher on December 13, 2014, 03:06:13 PM
Re MO, my post stipulated that: "MO has a law, passed in 2007, that banned PP from PS Sex Ed classes." It was in my first sentence, where I thought you might see the statement. Did you not read even my first sentence? And speaking of not reading things, hed you even glanced over the whole page of that first link, you would have seen that PP is working in KS schools.

So, you didn't notice that PP is working in AR schools? I thought you were challenging Dori to show that PP has such access to schools outside of CA. And AR, the state has been funding what PP does.

2010 is "old"?! :o The link demonstrates, in answer to your "challenge" to show that PP is in schools in states outside of CA that PP is involved in Iowa schools. And in your post you affirmed that, a mere 4 years after the date of the article I linked, that PP still is.

I've been around CC off and on since late 2009, so I don't doubt you've seen my posts. And perhaps you even remembered previous explanations of the "SV". OTOH, you aren't the only person reading this thread. So I thought explaining that I am from CA might be of interest to some of those reading this thread: it's called disclosing one's perspectives and biases.

And just to be clear, I am quite unhappy with what CA has become - whether under the MALAdministration of Ds Jerry Brown (both MISIncarnations) and Gray Davis, or under the MISManglement of RINOs Arnold Schwarzenegger and Pete Wilson. Unlike some here, I have not mentally consigned all 30M+ CA'ians to political Hades. There are a lot of good conservative people here. I noticed at least two of the 64 Rs who voted against the spendaholic Cromnibus are Rs (do I have to point out that they were voted into office? multiple times?).

Ah, another unhappy Commiefornian. Does my heart good to see that.

I still think the entire state needs to be flushed. I hope you and the smattering of non-liberals can somehow make it out before The Great Swirl happens.

Congratulations - you just showed everybody that PP is alive and well in the country. And apparently is jerking a lot of people around in Iowa and Caligulafornia.

Apparently you didn't catch my statement about the legislation that you yourself asked about was voted down in AR, thereby subjecting the citizens of that state to more PP bullshit.

With luck and a really strong downwind, Missouri's example can somehow spill over into KS, despite their long-term rivalry. Might even be good to migrate north to Iowa too.

PP is a scourge, a lie, and an abomination on the nation.

As to Dori? What I've learned about her is when she's challenged, she runs and hides. Meh. Whatevs.

ETA: Your own position on abortion wasn't part of the discussion. I'm glad you brought it up if for no other reason than you're on the record. Please don't mistake my passion on this issue (PP's complete misrepresentation and lies) for criticism directed toward you or assumptions I neither have made nor am interested in making concerning your position on the issue.

Oh, btw: Merry Christmas. I have to say that at least once a day, otherwise I turn into a pumpkin. And yes, I like to mix metaphors.
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Big Dog on December 13, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
Re MO, my post stipulated that: "MO has a law, passed in 2007, that banned PP from PS Sex Ed classes." It was in my first sentence, where I thought you might see the statement. Did you not read even my first sentence? And speaking of not reading things, hed you even glanced over the whole page of that first link, you would have seen that PP is working in KS schools.

You're talking about this, right?

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/planned-parenthood-kansas-mid-missouri/local-training-education

I read it. It says nothing about Kansas schools.
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Dori on December 13, 2014, 05:07:44 PM
As to Dori? What I've learned about her is when she's challenged, she runs and hides. Meh. Whatevs.

What do you want from me Eupher?  A pissing contest?

I already responded to you, and said that a lot of states have had to pass laws to stop PP.  Are they promoted here in every school district?  No.  Even with the MO laws, PP still managed to get their books into their school libraries, that's why I said they and other similar groups work constantly to undermine the states and parents.   

You want to dis Commiefornia?   Be my guest.  I'm glad your pleased to be in MO.  My dad was born there as were his parents and my mom's grandparents. 

Not all Republicans have left California, a lot of us made our homes here, started businesses here, raised our families and still put up a fight.  Too bad others didn't.  Although our numbers have been declining, we still have 15 Republicans left in the House, more than a lot of states have, and big enough to flip the power in congress.

 












Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Eupher on December 13, 2014, 10:13:12 PM
What do you want from me Eupher?  A pissing contest?

I already responded to you, and said that a lot of states have had to pass laws to stop PP.  Are they promoted here in every school district?  No.  Even with the MO laws, PP still managed to get their books into their school libraries, that's why I said they and other similar groups work constantly to undermine the states and parents.   

You want to dis Commiefornia?   Be my guest.  I'm glad your pleased to be in MO.  My dad was born there as were his parents and my mom's grandparents. 

Not all Republicans have left California, a lot of us made our homes here, started businesses here, raised our families and still put up a fight.  Too bad others didn't.  Although our numbers have been declining, we still have 15 Republicans left in the House, more than a lot of states have, and big enough to flip the power in congress.

 :tongue:

I like it when you get mad.

And for the record, I never said I liked it in MO. Going south for final retirement in a couple/few years.

Oh, and good luck with that "flip". You've got waaaaaay too many fruitcakes in Caligulafornia.
Title: Re: Parents angry after school tells 13-year-olds they can have sex, choose gender
Post by: Donpeyote on December 13, 2014, 10:15:25 PM
You can run ,but you can't hide California is in every state .  :popcorn: