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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on December 05, 2014, 11:00:35 AM
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H2O Man (50,711 posts)
Thank you, DU!
As I am preparing for tomorrow morning’s court hearing, I want to again thank all of you who have supported my family and I since the 10-27 shootings. And I speak for my cousin, his daughter, his siblings, nieces and nephews, and his parents. The District Attorney has also asked that I convey his thanks, as well. By 48 hours ago, the public response -- phone calls, letters, and e-mails -- had already been the most that Chenango County has ever received, on any case. And 100% of these provided the same message: no bail for John Guzy.
Anyone here familiar with my rants over the years, knows that I am fascinated by the workings of “systems.†Having said that, I want to briefly note a couple of discussions that I’ve read here recently. They were focused on if the Democratic Underground was fading into insignificance. Now, granted, I am but one cranky old man, and my opinion is of no more value than any other individual’s. But in light of the fact that the DU community stepped up, for no reason other than their beliefs in the need for social justice, and more than tripled the previous record for statements on a legal case in Chenango County …..I think it speaks loudly about just how significant this forum is.
This case is, of course, related to the many others that now infect our culture with hatred, racism, and violence. Guzy is a retired NYC cop, and had indeed just finished a shift as a sheriff’s deputy. In fact, he had left work furious, because he was required to work a 12-hour shift, rather than a regular 8-hour shift. As one of my good friends noted, he was going to kill someone that day, and my cousin and his son were the first people he encountered.
This case is unlike many of the others currently in the news, in that the victims were not black. Yet I can relate to those -- as can my family -- if only from a 1998 incident where a racist hate gang savagely attacked my nephew. This took place in the same town where the shootings occurred. One of the Assistant District Attorneys advocated prosecuting the case as exactly what it was -- attempted murder. Seventeen thugs attacked a high school student, because they were enraged that a brown-skinned youth was getting state-wide press, recognizing him as a top scholar-athlete. They left him for dead in a dark field.
The DA opted to charge the gang leader, who admitted that he had punched and kicked his unconscious victim in the head, at least 12 times, with a misdemeanor. When the ADA introduced testimony that the gang leader had called my nephew a “dumb ******†(among other things), the (in)Justice of the Peace said -- in open court -- “Well, I don’t believe that indicates that ‘race’ played any role in this.†Then what the heck did it indicate? I remember the disgust I felt for this man, when he rendered his decision -- a $50 fine, for having an open beer at the time of the assault.
When I see people who are outraged by the legal system’s frequent refusal to hold violent criminals responsible for their crimes, I understand it. Oh, yes I do. I would be lying if I said that I didn’t have thoughts about going after the men who inflicted permanent physical damage on my nephew. Non-violence was not my first nature, and those days sorely tested my attempt to live a peaceful life. It would have been easy -- very, very easy, indeed -- to react in a most violent manner.
Even today, I have periods where I wrestle with feelings of hatred for John Guzy, because he seriously wounded my cousin, and killed his son. He did a lot more damage to my family and our friends than “merely†shooting two men. I cannot describe how difficult it is to see my 84-year old aunt, and 86-year old uncle, suffering as a consequence of Guzy’s violent outburst. It would be easy for me to hate, and to feel justified in doing so.
But I will not. For if we are to change these systems that our lives experience daily, we must stop the violence and hatred. We have to rise above that, and identify the higher ground that is found in human potential.
So again, I want to thank each and every one of you who has supported me in recent weeks. It is much appreciated. And, if not before, then I look forward to talking with you tomorrow afternoon.
Peace,
H2O Man
I feel some bouncy in this story.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025910535
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http://www.gifvault.com/dumb-and-dumber-gif-2263.html (http://www.gifvault.com/dumb-and-dumber-gif-2263.html)
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Whose Duper powers are greater ?
Mineralman, or H2Oman ?
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Whose Duper powers are greater ?
Mineralman, or H2Oman ?
Que es mas macho? MM or H20 :rotf:
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^Heh.
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The DUmmy is trying to make the story into 'killer cop (on the job) shoots innocent victim, and would have gotten away with murder, if not for DU'.
Not even close.
The corrections officer (retired NYPD) got into a fight with the DUmmy's cousin and the cousin's son, on the way home from work. The shooter took a beating, and he shot both men with a .25. The shooter fled the scene, but turned himself in at a nearby State Police barracks after ditching the pistol.
The shootings were not in the line of duty, nor were his current employment status or his former employment a factor.
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The DUmmy is trying to make the story into 'killer cop (on the job) shoots innocent victim, and would have gotten away with murder, if not for DU'.
Not even close.
The corrections officer (retired NYPD) got into a fight with the DUmmy's cousin and the cousin's son, on the way home from work. The shooter took a beating, and he shot both men with a .25. The shooter fled the scene, but turned himself in at a nearby State Police barracks after ditching the pistol.
The shootings were not in the line of duty, nor were his current employment status or his former employment a factor.
The shooter cooked his goose when he blew a 0.11.
And he's not too bright. Who would carry a .25 for protection (or for anything else)?