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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 25, 2014, 11:27:13 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025867500
Oh my.
Brand new thread, but it's likely to grow if it isn't shut down.
NM_Birder (1,117 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:26 AM
The 800 lbs gorilla not being discussed
in a tragic series of events that could have been avoided at a number of points in time, there are now what everybody wanted .....facts. Just because the facts don't support what was assumed and speculated about does not make then any less factual.
Michael Brown DID assault officer Wilson, in his car. That is a fact, not a guess.
Officer Wilson WAS on site in an unrelated call, when he WAS notified about Michael Brown,s description as potential suspect in robbery.
Eric Holder SENT BY PRESIDENT OBAMA, the FBI, State AND local police did not set up a conspiracy to set free Officer Wilson. The evidence did not support a trial.
Regardless personal feelings, if science is to be believed, then the burning of Ferguson last night was unnecessary. If science is not to be believed, then President Obama, Eric Holder, the FBI along with State and local police are all "in on the fix" for a nobody white officer. Occam's razor,.....apply it and the truth is clear. ........ maybe not comfy cozy, but it's true.
Don't assault cops. Don't assault ANYONE. Assault a cop you are likely to be shot, that is not a new revelation.
A kid assaults a cop, gets shot, and to protest........... the community burns local business down...........
I'll bet if Michael Brown were here he would describe the uselessness, and regret of all of this, NONE of this was necessary.
Just one response, but there'll probably be more:
boston bean (21,725 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:27 AM
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:puke:
^^^along with BainsBane, the redqueen primitive, and the seabeyond bitch, one of the Four Horsewomen of the Femapocalypse; the primitive whose son is always attracting the attention of the cops.
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DUmmies don't need facts. That is proven on a daily basis.
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Oh my.
Skippy seems a little, uh, upset.
NYC_SKP (63,071 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:36 AM
16. **** THAT SHIT!
If you're a cop, treat people with dignity, don't be an authoritarian asshole.
That right there would have prevented this from happening. Wilson WAS ASKING FOR AN ASS KICKING.
And get this straight, friend: the community didn't burn down any businesses, the ****ing police did by creating an environment where it was likely to happen.
They are the ones who were tossing around incendiary devices.
**** Wilson and his type, I've run into them and they aren't fit to be given positions of authority.
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Barry sees his hold on a DOTY slot slipping away.
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Oh my.
Skippy seems a little, uh, upset.
Haemorrhoids, perhaps?
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Barry sees his hold on a DOTY slot slipping away.
I never thought of it before, because Skippy takes so many pains to appear square, but now I'm wondering if he's been caught doing something he shouldn't, by the cops at one time or another.
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I never thought of it before, because Skippy takes so many pains to appear square, but now I'm wondering if he's been caught doing something he shouldn't, by the cops at one time or another.
He is a DUmbass,he could get pulled over for doing 90 in a 55 and would likely be an obnoxious,self righteous asshole about it.
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NM_Birder (1,124 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:38 AM
in response to Skippy, above
21. I think you are mistaken.
NYC_SKP (63,073 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:42 AM
29. Wilson started this shit in how he addressed the two individuals.
It's clear from other solid evidence that he is unfit to be working with the public and shouldn't be a peace officer at all.
"Peace officer"
Get it?
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He is a DUmbass,he could get pulled over for doing 90 in a 55 and would likely be an obnoxious,self righteous asshole about it.
I'll bet Skippy, using his clout, is going to get the bird-watching primitive not only deleted, but banned.
It's his Pol Pot mind-set; exterminate those who dissent.
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Now Skippy is just being stupid.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025867526
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:29 AM
Star Member NYC_SKP (63,074 posts)
Ferguson police PLANNED night riots, used incendiaries, lit fires and kept them going, all for show.
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• The timing is absurd. Had this been a morning presser, protests would have been in broad daylight and easier to manage.
• Nighttime protests are scarier, they increase the odds of chaos, make it easier to use agents provocateurs and give cover to shooting black people.
• Police carry fire extinquishers and could have put out the initial vehicle fire but chose not to.
• They wanted the fire and the spectacle.
• The city should have had fire fighting equipment on hand and been able to respond to the building fires, but did not.
They have had MONTHS to prepare for this and what we got is what they wanted.
It's no accident. "Rioters" didn't do this. Ferguson did this.
Welcome to the police state.
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NYC_SKP (63,075 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:40 AM
27. I did not know that.
But it makes sense.
That said, what a bucket of bullshit is this OP line of reasoning.
Wilson seems to have been cruising for a bruising. Even if Brown attacked him we have to look at who started the encounter.
People don't walk on sidewalks in many places, I have no idea why, they are mostly young people and might be of any race or ethnicity.
I personally don't get it but I can easily picture Wilson ordering the two kids to get out of the street and it turning ugly right away.
Thus, I place the blame at Wilson's feet.
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Charlie chimes in:
KingCharlemagne (1,574 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:47 AM
34. Your OP has to rank as the stupidest ****ing shit I've read on this site.
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The ban hammer's coming:
abelenkpe (8,527 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:57 AM
50. It's surprising
How long DU has put up with your winger posts.
NM_Birder (1,130 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:00 AM
53. Everything I've said is true.
Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not true.
Where is the "winger" in my post.
be specific.
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Uh oh.
Another primitive's gonna get into trouble.
NCTraveler (4,395 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:05 AM
61. Not much to disagree with in your op.
Cluster **** all the way around.
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(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/smileys/winger01_zpsecd7f295.jpg)
:???:
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The only fact these DUmmies care about: cop white, other guy black. Therefore, GUILTY!!@q2
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The ban hammer's coming:
Yep, the birdwatching primitive may soon have to 'fly the coop', so to speak.
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The bird-watching primitive's still baiting the totalitarianist Skippy:
NM_Birder (1,133 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:06 AM
63. All I said, was what was said regarding the grand jury findings.
"probably mutual battery" ? That's a new one.
Sorry, I though you were the one claiming the police with the incendiary devices started the fires.
You think Holder, Obama and the FBI were "in on this fix" ? Speculate,....... I'd be curious what your reasoning would be regarding the State, local police, FBI, and Eric Holder's role in this conspiracy would be.
Don't forget, Obama SENT Holder, so he is directly involved in the cover up.
Paint me a picture, you don't believe what was said last night, so give me your version of what happened. really, I'm curious if you can put it all together.
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Ew.
Not wise, because Skippy's got clout.
confoosed (8 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:09 AM
in response to Skippy, above
67. burning down businesses
the community didn't burn down any businesses, the ****ing police did by creating an environment where it was likely to happen
I suppose rape victims cause themselves to be raped by "creating an environment where it was likely to happen".
You make me sick.
Skippy does have that effect.
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Now Idiot Briggs is in on it; apparently she never saw the videotape?
IdaBriggs (8,335 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:11 AM
69. There is no credibility for anything you state as "facts."
I don't believe anything Wilson said. I don't believe the robbery report that the store owner did not make. I have not seen the report by Eric Holder or the FBI but I have seen what happens when people who are associates of a racist group (the KKK) are allowed in positions of power which they then abuse.
There is no credibility for any of the officers at that station. They cannot be trusted by the town. They should be fired.
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maced666 (601 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:15 AM
74. Your facts won't go over well....
And whatever you do don't post a link to his robbery video of that store.
^^^another dissenting primitive not long on Skins's island.
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Now Charlie's making what sounds a subtle threat:
maced666 (602 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:17 AM
in response to Charlie's earlier comment
77. OP point proven. Thank you
His facts and points versus insults...guess who wins?!
KingCharlemagne (1,577 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:18 AM
78. My, aren't you precious? You will be judged by the
company you keep, so do make note.
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Oh my.
What better way to rile up the primitives, especially Skippy?
cwydro (14,301 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:19 AM
79. No one wants to hear reason.
But most reasonable people know that there is no excuse for stupid rioting and burning.
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Wilson seems to have been cruising for a bruising. Even if Brown attacked him we have to look at who started the encounter.
As one of the reporterettes on TV said last night, "He should have just driven away. A box of cigars. Who cares?"
That chickie apparently went to the democrat police academy.
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One's startled at how there seems to be a minuscule sense of rationality on this thread.
NM_Birder (1,136 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:15 AM
75. Careful. Agreeing with me is a cy ber death sentence.
NCTraveler (4,396 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:25 AM
84. All good
So much here went completely against known facts that I was a little shocked. Actually, really shocked. Normally du is very pro-science/fact. Not the case here. Well, except for some. Most of them will not comment on this topic due to the anger directed at the facts of the case.
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I'll bet if Michael Brown were here he would describe the uselessness, and regret of all of this, NONE of this was necessary.
:rofl: :rofl:
If that POS thug were here, his sorry ass would be right in the thick of this shit looting, burning, and vandalizing.
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Well, I gotta go, for a little while.
I'll bet Skippy, who should be working at this hour, not hanging around on the internet, is livid the bird-watching primitive hasn't been banned and deep-sixed yet.
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My, my, how this has grown.
95 replies, 1682 views
But nothing of any particular importance or insight since I was away.
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Hmmm, where were the riots and burning after the OJ trial?
But maybe that happened in a different universe........(http://members.socket.net/~mcruzan/avatars/shrug.gif)
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Here are my collective thoughts on this whole enterprise, which has seen a good man's life altered completely and a thug's ended
appropriately. Probably doesn't merit its own thread after the fine work everyone else has done here:
- There are two things Brown could have done to avoid getting his head blown off. (a), he shouldn't have assaulted a store owner as he stole. Because if he was willing to assault someone in the process of stealing their stuff, police have to assume that he had a taste for mindless violence and they would be appropriately on guard for, oh, Brown assaulting THEM. Which, (b) he shouldn't have participated in a struggle with a police officer and led the officer to fear for his safety.
- The grand jury, contrary to what is claimed, was not given bits and pieces of information. It was given a MOUNTAIN of information, including the testimony of the prospective accused, which aligned perfectly with the physical evidence. This was done to prevent exactly the sort of howling that's going on right now on DU and in the liberal social media, which STILL prefers discredited claims and false testimony over things that are known to have happened.
- If the job of the prosecutor is solely to make a case for indictment, purposely one-sided, then all of the additional information and testimony provided to the grand jury would have come out in trial, and Wilson would have been acquitted, anyway. The "witnesses" who lied to the grand jury would have been savaged and humiliated by defense attorneys, and anything else heretofore unknown about this "gentle giant" may have come out in court, not the least of which may have been his tendency to physically intimidate people who happened to be (a) of a different skin color, and (b) not in the act of passing him a joint.
- We are to look at Wilson's face and infer from the lack of external injury that he could not have feared for his life. To this I say, thank heaven he was able to free his weapon and prevent exactly that from happening.
- Twelve people heard testimony over a period of weeks that takes nearly 5000 pages to transpose, but somehow a couple of DUmmies with no discernible skills or talents can skim it in a few drug-addled moments and find enough evidence to indict every white person in recorded human history and most of the dead people buried in what used to be called Germania. This is called hubris at its best, and is called bullshit every other day.
- We were assured by DU that protesters would be shot, killed, and stacked like cordwood. From what I saw, however, the protesters were not only not harmed, but were effectively offered the goods inside local stores as recompense for their supposed loss and hurt feelings.
- Do any of you fellow white people remember all those riots and protests we did when OJ Simpson was acquitted of murder? Neither do I.
- Over 125 black people have been unlawfully killed by other black people in Chicago since Mike Brown was lawfully put down. I have seen exactly zero commentary on this on DU or elsewhere, which leads me to surmise that the rage over Brown's killing was because someone, a probably a black man, was saving Brown's hide for himself. Because it appears to me that as far as DUmmies are concernd, black-on-black homicide is perfectly legitimate and even expected behavior.
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Over 125 black people have been unlawfully killed by other black people in Chicago since Mike Brown was lawfully put down. I have seen exactly zero commentary on this on DU or elsewhere, which leads me to surmise that the rage over Brown's killing was because someone, a probably a black man, was saving Brown's hide for himself. Because it appears to me that as far as DUmmies are concerned, black-on-black homicide is perfectly legitimate and even expected behavior.
^^^ :clap:
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^^^ :clap:
So spare me if I chuckle when I see the new meme, Black Lives Matter. Of course black lives matter. What was the race of the child Wilson was looking in on when this Brown nonsense started?
You know what black lives matter to DUmmies? Dead ones they elect to use for political gain (that stack of black bodies in Chicago that would make Himmler proud is not of political interest to DUmmies).
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the community didn't burn down any businesses, the ****ing police did by creating an environment where it was likely to happen
By that "logic", Wilson didn't shoot saint stogies, saint stogies shot himself by creating an environment where he was likely to be shot.
:rotf:
I know, I know:
:racist:
CMD
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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:29 AM
NYC_SKP (63,074 posts)
Ferguson police PLANNED night riots, used incendiaries, lit fires and kept them going, all for show.
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• The timing is absurd. Had this been a morning presser, protests would have been in broad daylight and easier to manage.
So let's announce it while children are in school and people are at work and not safely in their homes. You ****ing DUmbass.
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Some on DU need to ask...what do you want on your tombstone ?
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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:29 AM
NYC_SKP (63,074 posts)
Ferguson police PLANNED night riots, used incendiaries, lit fires and kept them going, all for show.
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• The timing is absurd. Had this been a morning presser, protests would have been in broad daylight and easier to manage.
The protests might have been in the daytime, but the rioters don't wake up until the afternoon, anyway.
Also remember, during the earlier rioting and looting, the hoodrats just waited until the next night to resume looting where they had left off.
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In Skippy's world, if a cop is rude to you, you have the right to assault them. Then again, Darren Wilson wasn't rude to Michael Brown. That's a lying witness's version of the events.
The good news is that some Dummies are waking up to how illogical most Dummies are.
Plenty of conservatives find their way to our side after growing up as life-long Democrats. Maybe these individuals will see the light.
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One thing they don't ever think about: in Ferguson they're trying to convince people there was an injustice done to this "teenager", yet, they run around acting like the same kind of thug Brown was. How the hell are we supposed to sympathize with anyone in this community when all they're doing is proving Michael Brown is a product of a bunch of violent animals. This does nothing to convince the American people that there was an injustice.
Cindie
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That right there would have prevented this from happening. Wilson WAS ASKING FOR AN ASS KICKING.
Wilson seems to have been cruising for a bruising
Oh really, Skippy? So, I guess the rape victim was asking for it too, huh? She was just "roaming for a boning"?
I swear to god, if I'm ever on trial, I will tell my lawyer to excuse from the jury anyone who is a member of DU. They obviously can't use logic.
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Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:29 AM
NYC_SKP (63,074 posts)
Ferguson police PLANNED night riots, used incendiaries, lit fires and kept them going, all for show.
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• The timing is absurd. Had this been a morning presser, protests would have been in broad daylight and easier to manage.
Jesse Ventura was on Coast to Coast AM this morning. He was saying the same stupid sh!t as this and other stuff one could read on DU. :mental:
Reading the stupid sh!t people believe does not convey the full on crazy as when you hear the same stupid sh!t being spoken.
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Jesse Ventura was on Coast to Coast AM this morning. He was saying the same stupid sh!t as this and other stuff one could read on DU. :mental:
Reading the stupid sh!t people believe does not convey the full on crazy as when you hear the same stupid sh!t being spoken.
I heard that stupid asshole and had to turn it off.
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The conspiracy nuts are hard at work :o
NYC_SKP (63,126 posts)
9. The first car, especially, being left to burn got my attention.
It was a hazard, you might have noticed ammo, or something, exploding as it burned.
Fires spread and need to be taken out right away.
Regardless of how it started, any fool would know that on this night of all night, be prepared for things like fires.
ReRe (8,475 posts)
58. I think the cars were soaked inside...
... with lighter fluid. Probably cars that were being retired, so no loss. They just flamed up to spectacularly, as if they had been bombed. Like in an action movie. I don't think they had much gas in the tanks, as if they had, there would have been some dangerous explosions that would have killed some protesters and /or police.