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Title: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: txradioguy on November 17, 2014, 07:21:42 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Y_e00NjQvFM[/youtube]

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President Obama personally crafted a major Obamacare deception with Jonathan Gruber at one of Gruber’s numerous White House meetings, according to a 2012 Gruber interview with PBS.
 
MIT professor Gruber, who served as a top Obama administration consultant during the writing of Obamacare, garnered national condemnation this week after The Daily Caller published a video in which he credited a lack of transparency for Obamacare’s passage. Gruber said the law survived an existential threat posed by “the stupidity of the American voter.”
 
Gruber had a powerful partner in his effort to spin or conceal politically vulnerable aspects of Obamacare from the public: the president of the United States.
 
The Gateway Pundit highlighted a clip from Gruber’s 2012 interview with the PBS program Frontline in which the professor admitted that he worked together with the president in the Oval Office to conceal the political impact of their plan to get more tax revenue out of employer-sponsored health insurance plans by imposing a new “Cadillac tax” on companies. The Gateway Pundit also confirmed that Gruber checked into the West Wing for a meeting with the president on July 20, 2009, according to White House visitor logs.


But wait...it gets better.  Here's what the President said about Gruber to Ed Henry:

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President Barack Obama addressed MIT economist Jonathan Gruber’s comments for the first time on Sunday.
 
“I just heard about this,” Obama told Fox News’ Ed Henry during a press conference at the G20 Summit in Australia. “I get well briefed before I come out here.”
 
“The fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no  reflection on the actual process that was run,” Obama said.


http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/14/president-crafted-obamacare-deception-with-gruber-at-white-house-meeting/

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/16/obama-addresses-grubers-comments/
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: Dori on November 17, 2014, 11:11:21 AM
Ed Henry better watch his back. 

Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: marv on November 17, 2014, 11:28:49 AM
This morning it was reported that Obama said this whole thing is a hoax!

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Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 17, 2014, 12:06:34 PM
Whenever you hear Obama say "I'm just now hearing of this in the news for the first time, I had no idea up until now," or words to that effect, you know he's been caught -

 :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep:
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: Dori on November 17, 2014, 12:26:52 PM
This morning it was reported that Obama said this whole thing is a hoax

Yeah it was a hoax....played on the American people.

Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: Eupher on November 17, 2014, 12:53:39 PM
A good way of telling when Barry's lying?

His lips are moving.   :whatever:

Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: marv on November 17, 2014, 01:15:08 PM
A good way of telling when Barry's lying?

His lips are moving.   :whatever:

Geeze! The guy never shuts up.............
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: obumazombie on November 17, 2014, 01:59:55 PM
He calls him "some advisor".
owebuma calle Bill Ayres "just some guy whole lives in the neighborhood".
The wookieyeti must be just some woman he married.
His kids must just be some kids he fathered.
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: Gina on November 17, 2014, 05:16:38 PM
I hate him and I hate how hypocritical the dems are that still support this guy.  If this was my Republican president I would be so ashamed and I would have turned my back on this lying and corrupt president. 
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: SaintLouieWoman on November 17, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
I hate him and I hate how hypocritical the dems are that still support this guy.  If this was my Republican president I would be so ashamed and I would have turned my back on this lying and corrupt president.

Agreed. Obama is a disgrace to our nation and testimony to Gruber's statement of the stupidity of many of the American people. Can't stand Obama and can't believe anyone still believes his utter lies.
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: txradioguy on November 18, 2014, 03:40:59 AM
The wookieyeti must be just some woman he married.


"I didn't know I was married until I read about it just yesterday in the papers.  I'm just as surprsied and outraged as you are over this!"

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His kids must just be some kids he fathered.

"i was as shocked as anyone of you...to find out I was a father...I didn't know that they were my kids until I got the bill yesterday from Sidwell Friends School ."
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: txradioguy on November 18, 2014, 03:42:49 AM
I hate him and I hate how hypocritical the dems are that still support this guy.  If this was my Republican president I would be so ashamed and I would have turned my back on this lying and corrupt president.

Instead you have doddering old Progressives like Harry Reid coming out yesterday and publicly kissing his ring.
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: DefiantSix on November 18, 2014, 03:44:19 AM

"I didn't know I was married until I read about it just yesterday in the papers.  I'm just as surprsied and outraged as you are over this!"

"i was as shocked as anyone of you...to find out I was a father...I didn't know that they were my kids until I got the bill yesterday from Sidwell Friends School ."

Not bad, but there needs to be more stammering and less coherency in order to really nail that Dear Leader impression. :cheers1:

Instead you have doddering old Progressives like Harry Reid coming out yesterday and publicly kissing his ring.

That's not Obama's ring the pederast Harry Reid has been kissing... :puke:
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: txradioguy on November 18, 2014, 04:10:34 AM
Not bad, but there needs to be more stammering and less coherency in order to really nail that Dear Leader impression. :cheers1:

Couldn't stammer that much if I tried.  English is my first language and broadcasting has taught me to speak without the need of a TelePromTer   :-)

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That's not Obama's ring the pederast Harry Reid has been kissing... :puke:

Depends on where the ring is at!  :whistling:
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: obumazombie on November 18, 2014, 11:21:45 AM

"I didn't know I was married until I read about it just yesterday in the papers.  I'm just as surprsied and outraged as you are over this!"

"i was as shocked as anyone of you...to find out I was a father...I didn't know that they were my kids until I got the bill yesterday from Sidwell Friends School ."

D6 says not bad.
I say...Interwembachine Gold !
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: wasp69 on November 18, 2014, 12:13:01 PM
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President Barack Obama addressed MIT economist Jonathan Gruber’s comments for the first time on Sunday.
 
“I just heard about this,” Obama told Fox News’ Ed Henry during a press conference at the G20 Summit in Australia. “I get well briefed before I come out here.”
 
“The fact that some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no  reflection on the actual process that was run,” Obama said.

Poor little barry just can't help himself, can he?  Climbing the tallest tree in a windstorm when it would be so much better to stand on the ground and tell the truth...

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Obama Flashback: ‘I’ve Stolen Ideas’ From Jonathan Gruber ‘Liberally’

During a Brookings Institution panel in April 2006, then-Sen. Barack Obama claimed he had “stolen” ideas from a gang of liberal economists and academics, including the now-infamous Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber.

“You have already drawn some of the brightest minds from academia and policy circles, many of them I have stolen ideas from liberally,” Obama said. “People ranging from Robert Gordon to Austan Goolsbee; Jon Gruber; my dear friend, Jim Wallis here, who can inform what are sometimes dry policy debates with a prophetic voice.”

Despite Obama’s attempt to distance himself and his unpopular signature health care legislation from Gruber, it is clear that 2006 Obama never anticipated videos of his once-trusted adviser calling American voters ‘stupid’ would surface in 2014.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/obama-flashback-ive-stolen-ideas-from-jonathan-gruber/

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Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: obumazombie on November 18, 2014, 08:23:01 PM
All 10 videos embedded in Gruber article...


http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/11/17/Jonathan-Gruber-1-Year-Ago-Short-Attention-Span-Of-American-Public-Will-Help-Them-Forget-About-Disastrous-ACA-Rollout-Video (http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/11/17/Jonathan-Gruber-1-Year-Ago-Short-Attention-Span-Of-American-Public-Will-Help-Them-Forget-About-Disastrous-ACA-Rollout-Video)


Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: Gina on November 19, 2014, 08:48:50 AM
This does ruin ANY  argument in the future when we have a Republican president and he breaks rules (for the democrats). They can't say they are so innocent, so pure. We just have to bring up whatever law Obama broke in any instance. I'm sure there will be an example for ANY occasion.  :rant:
Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: txradioguy on November 19, 2014, 09:17:04 AM
This does ruin ANY  argument in the future when we have a Republican president and he breaks rules (for the democrats). They can't say they are so innocent, so pure. We just have to bring up whatever law Obama broke in any instance. I'm sure there will be an example for ANY occasion.  :rant:

Don't underestimate the Progressive's ability to forget their own sins while casting stones at others.

Especially when they have the media running point for them.

They look at what they do as the ends justifying the means.  And they are the ONLY ones allowed to play by that particular set of rules.

Title: Re: Obama Crafted Obamacare Deception With Gruber At White House Meeting
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 19, 2014, 12:46:04 PM
This does ruin ANY  argument in the future when we have a Republican president and he breaks rules (for the democrats). They can't say they are so innocent, so pure. We just have to bring up whatever law Obama broke in any instance. I'm sure there will be an example for ANY occasion.  :rant:
I would not be surprised to see the democrats try to limit the presidents E.O. powers between now and January 2016....just as soon as Obama finally puts down his pen.