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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: mrclose on November 08, 2014, 04:50:47 PM
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Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber bragging about deceiving the American people, who he thinks are stupid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI&feature=youtu.be
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So simple. So clear from the beginning. So maddening.
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In a sense, he's correct.
The low information voter, i.e., the "stupid American voter" who put Barry in office is exactly who he's talking about.
NOT ONE Republican signed onto that POS legislation. And yet Barry and his lapdogs carried the day. :thatsright:
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Unfortunately it's nothing new. All left wing agenda items are promoted with lies.
Especially democrat presidential candidates.
5 lies that have shaped the Obama presidency (http://nypost.com/2014/09/13/how-falsehoods-and-fibs-have-shaped-the-obama-presidency/)
http://nypost.com/2014/09/13/how-falsehoods-and-fibs-have-shaped-the-obama-presidency/
252 Examples of Obama’s Lies, Lawbreaking & Corruption (http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/tim-brown/252-examples-of-obamas-lying-lawbreaking-corruption/)
From a Liberal Source;
884 well sourced examples of Obama’s lying, lawbreaking, corruption, cronyism, hypocrisy, waste, etc. (http://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/obama-252/)
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/
I could go on and on but what's the point. I only hope the republicans don't back another wimpy candidate for president in 2016. :thatsright:
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Unfortunately it's nothing new. All left wing agenda items are promoted with lies.
Especially democrat presidential candidates.
People need to know how important this is since the Supreme Court is going to be looking at this law.
Maybe this will help clarify what is going on?
Jonathan Gruber: States Which Do Not Set Up an Exchange Do Not Get Tax Subsidies
If the SC rules as it should .. this will bring the ACA law down!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34rttqLh12U
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I've got my fingers crossed.
I thought we got double crossed by Chief Justice Roberts on the individual mandate.
But now I see that maybe there was a bright side to his decision.
I just hope he gets it right this time.
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I've got my fingers crossed.
I thought we got double crossed by Chief Justice Roberts on the individual mandate.
But now I see that maybe there was a bright side to his decision.
I just hope he gets it right this time.
I wouldn't bank on it. The nasty little rumor circulating is that Roberts and his wife didn't exactly follow the law with regards to their adoptive children. It has been presumed that the regime found out about this and have been holding it over Roberts' head in order to get "reasonable" rulings from the high court.
If such is the case, I wouldn't expect Dear Leader to relax the leash on his pet judiciary anytime where his signature piece of legislation is concerned.
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I really don't understand the Roberts blackmail allegation - even if it is true that he and his wife did some illegal adoption process, where is the leverage left in the blackmail with such a known accusation?
Gruber has been in hiding lately. He knew all that about the subsidies and the exchanges all the while, but lied about it over and over. A couple of minutes after his remarks on transparancey, he makes a comment about a “time bomb†of costs rising to 17% of income, and then makes another remark about wanting to put Prozac in the public drinking water.
Throughout, he talks about HMOs like they are the epitome of captialism when they're really just cartels. MIT communist.
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I really don't understand the Roberts blackmail allegation - even if it is true that he and his wife did some illegal adoption process, where is the leverage left in the blackmail with such a known accusation?
If it it were true and if it comes out he'd have to resign...allowing Obama to appoint a Liberal to replace him and probably promote the "smart" Latina to Chief Justice.
While Roberts isn't as Conservative as Scalia or Thomas...he's no Ginsberg either.
So they keep that fact in that card in their pocket and threaten to use it unless he votes a certain way on certain issues...like immigration and Obama care.
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If it it were true and if it comes out he'd have to resign...allowing Obama to appoint a Liberal to replace him and probably promote the "smart" Latina to Chief Justice.
While Roberts isn't as Conservative as Scalia or Thomas...he's no Ginsberg either.
So they keep that fact in that card in their pocket and threaten to use it unless he votes a certain way on certain issues...like immigration and Obama care.
But if he is forced to vote in ways that Obama wants, then there is no difference than having a liberal judge there.
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The Communist University of Pennsylvania deletes GRUBER video.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/10/u-penn-deletes-video-of-obamacare-architect-insulting-american-voters/
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The Communist University of Pennsylvania deletes GRUBER video.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/10/u-penn-deletes-video-of-obamacare-architect-insulting-american-voters/
Epic Fail. It's still available from other sources now.
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People like Sean Hannity tried to warn the public. But alas...no so called moderates listened.
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Have heard the clip multiple times since yesterday afternoon. Any comment from the DUmp or just crickets?
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Have heard the clip multiple times since yesterday afternoon. Any comment from the DUmp or just crickets?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025800770
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Have heard the clip multiple times since yesterday afternoon. Any comment from the DUmp or just crickets?
I see two
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025798327
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025800770
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I see two
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025798327
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025800770
Thanks thundley! :hi5:
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I see two
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025798327
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025800770
And thank you as well, Dori. :hi5:
I figured they would pretty much ignore it. I just hope that the Republican campaigns remember it for 2016.
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Just saw on Fox News, that O'Reilly is covering this story tonight. :panic:
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:evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Just saw on Fox News, that O'Reilly is covering this story tonight. :panic:
The more exposure the better. I might actually turn on Fox News tonight. Rarely watch it, other than election night.
Would love to see Rachel Maddow cover the story. :evil:
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:evillaugh: :evillaugh:
The more exposure the better. I might actually turn on Fox News tonight. Rarely watch it, other than election night.
Would love to see Rachel Maddow cover the story. :evil:
I'd like to see O'Reilly have Zek Emanuel on to watch HIS answer for being part of the "The Big Lie".
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Just read an article that said he was on MSNBC today doing the MJ moon walk.....backtracking.
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Just read an article that said he was on MSNBC today doing the MJ moon walk.....backtracking.
Just as a mental exercise, how can he talk his way out of that one and be taken seriously? Because that audio and video are quite damning.
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Cavuto covered but only briefly. He pointed out the fact that the video has gone viral, and the Obamamedia is silent on the story.
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Just saw on Fox News, that O'Reilly is covering this story tonight. :panic:
It was on several of the FOX programs last night too.
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Gosh, how was that possible in "The Most Transparent Administration Ever?"
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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Wait until the primitives figure out that Jonathan Gruber is responsible for Vermont's 'Single Payer' system..... :popcorn:
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The left is moving the goalposts again.
Maine Sen. Angus King: Who cares if ObamaCare architect Jon Gruber thinks voters were deceived about ObamaCare?
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/11/maine-sen-angus-king-who-cares-if-obamacare-architect-jon-gruber-thinks-voters-were-deceived-about-obamacare/
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Megan Kelly also had it on. He can't deny it---hard to talk over the videos of his actual words. He looks exactly like some of the libs we had volunteered with. They were infuriating almost as much as him. There's something about the typical smug attitude, that condescension, that assurance that they are so above the "stupid" people.
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The left is moving the goalposts again.
I wish them the best of luck stuffing that cat back in the bag. :popcorn:
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Megan Kelly also had it on. He can't deny it---hard to talk over the videos of his actual words. He looks exactly like some of the libs we had volunteered with. They were infuriating almost as much as him. There's something about the typical smug attitude, that condescension, that assurance that they are so above the "stupid" people.
I just watched Kelly's show. She played a second tape of him calling the public stupid. She said the Gruber guy had a dozen meetings with WH officials, and one was chaired by the Liar in Chief himself.
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Gosh, how was that possible in "The Most Transparent Administration Ever?"
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
Why yes, yes it is, we have been able to see through it since 2008/9. Not so easily for those wearing rose colored glasses.
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Fox interviewed a friend of Gruber...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/11/video-interview-gets-tense-in-a-hurry-when-tv-hosts-confront-senator-over-obamacare-architects-revealing-comments/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/11/video-interview-gets-tense-in-a-hurry-when-tv-hosts-confront-senator-over-obamacare-architects-revealing-comments/)
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Fox interviewed a friend of Gruber...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/11/video-interview-gets-tense-in-a-hurry-when-tv-hosts-confront-senator-over-obamacare-architects-revealing-comments/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/11/video-interview-gets-tense-in-a-hurry-when-tv-hosts-confront-senator-over-obamacare-architects-revealing-comments/)
I hope they keep that son of a bitch on a hot rotation for the tv talking head shows.
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I hope they keep that son of a bitch on a hot rotation for the tv talking head shows.
Well, that's a double-edged sword. The Obamaites will applaud this jagoff for standing up to Faux News who played right into his "You're turning me in to a victim!" card.
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Fox interviewed a friend of Gruber...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/11/video-interview-gets-tense-in-a-hurry-when-tv-hosts-confront-senator-over-obamacare-architects-revealing-comments/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/11/11/video-interview-gets-tense-in-a-hurry-when-tv-hosts-confront-senator-over-obamacare-architects-revealing-comments/)
He's just confirming his communist RED credentials.
Who can forget this communist congressman; "Dingell: It will take a while for ObamaCare to “control the people†".
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Well, that's a double-edged sword. The Obamaites will applaud this jagoff for standing up to Faux News who played right into his "You're turning me in to a victim!" card.
Let them, we saw how well that worked this election season.
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I hope they keep that son of a bitch on a hot rotation for the tv talking head shows.
They have been on FOX. In fact, there are now three tapes they've been playing of Gruber calling the voters stupid. He seems quite proud of misrepresenting this piece of crap legislation to get it passed
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They have been on FOX. In fact, there are now three tapes they've been playing of Gruber calling the voters stupid. He seems quite proud of misrepresenting this piece of crap legislation to get it passed
I meant the demtard Senator from Maine. I hope he becomes the next casualty of obinga's legacy.
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I meant the demtard Senator from Maine. I hope he becomes the next casualty of obinga's legacy.
He claims to be "Independent". He's as about as independent and Bernie Sanders.
They have been on FOX. In fact, there are now three tapes they've been playing of Gruber calling the voters stupid. He seems quite proud of misrepresenting this piece of crap legislation to get it passed
He has been trying to cover up his inadvertent gaffe of telling the truth by claiming the statements on the first tape were "off the cuff" and so on. Not many libs reach the apex of lying like Clinnochio did.
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Leftism thrives by ignorance and stupidity.
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This would be a question for our legal eagles here: If the Oministration had to "misrepresent the facts" and "intentonally confuse" the public to get something that is detrimental to the public passed, how is that not conspiracy to commit fraud?
Sure, we wouldn't be able to get 0, since he's still in the WH, but we could probably get all these civilian policy wonks. Just imagine the fallout for Dems when the guys who designed 0care get indicted. Which would be made worse when 0 pardons them...
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This would be a question for our legal eagles here: If the Oministration had to "misrepresent the facts" and "intentonally confuse" the public to get something that is detrimental to the public passed, how is that not conspiracy to commit fraud?
Sure, we wouldn't be able to get 0, since he's still in the WH, but we could probably get all these civilian policy wonks. Just imagine the fallout for Dems when the guys who designed 0care get indicted. Which would be made worse when 0 pardons them...
<<<Not a lawyer. Politicians lie to us all the time and are guilty of fraud, but nothing is done. The only way I can see any civilians being considered as committing a crime would be if they testified before congress under oath about something.
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This would be a question for our legal eagles here: If the Oministration had to "misrepresent the facts" and "intentonally confuse" the public to get something that is detrimental to the public passed, how is that not conspiracy to commit fraud?
Sure, we wouldn't be able to get 0, since he's still in the WH, but we could probably get all these civilian policy wonks. Just imagine the fallout for Dems when the guys who designed 0care get indicted. Which would be made worse when 0 pardons them...
No matter how much BS and lies went into lobbying for a law, the responsibility for passing it is ultimately on Congress alone, which has a responsibility to review and think about what their doing (Which, of course, the Democrats completely abdicated). All the bullshitting liars, crooks, and dupes who try to sway them before they vote lose any responsibility for the law when the Congressional vote occurs, though of course there are a lot of lobbying, campaigning, and ethics laws that may get broken and then usually not prosecuted in that process. Once the Congressional vote occurs, Congresscritters are immune from personal responsibility, either civil or criminal, for their official legislative acts, though of course a lot of the fools, Socialists, and liars in Congress who voted for it were held accountable at the ballot box in subsequent elections.
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The owebumaManiaMedia is loathe to report bad news for owebuma, but slowly they are being shamed into doing their job...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2014/11/13/cbs-finally-covers-gruber-revealing-obamacare-deception (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2014/11/13/cbs-finally-covers-gruber-revealing-obamacare-deception)
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...of course a lot of the fools, Socialists, and liars in Congress who voted for it were held accountable at the ballot box in subsequent elections.
29 of the Senators who voted for it won't be in the new senate.
This lists all of them
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/29-senators-who-voted-for-obamacare-and-wont-be-part-of-new-senate/article/2555721
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Nancy Pelosi caught lying: Never heard of Gruber despite citing him in 2009
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/13/nancy-pelosi-caught-lying-never-heard-of-gruber-de/
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2RAToOIQAAGVPM.jpg)
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Nancy "Bela" Pelosi continues to prove over and over that she is something right out of a horror movie, just like her namesake.
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Pelousy is a professional politician. She gets paid to lie -- even badly.
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Pelousy is a professional politician. She gets paid to lie -- even badly.
She would consider that a compliment.
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29 of the Senators who voted for it won't be in the new senate.
This lists all of them
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/29-senators-who-voted-for-obamacare-and-wont-be-part-of-new-senate/article/2555721
So, 48% of them lost their re-election bids. Considering that Senate re-election rates are around 90%, that would make for a significant datum to show the people's desire to get rid of this POS.
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So, 48% of them lost their re-election bids. Considering that Senate re-election rates are around 90%, that would make for a significant datum to show the people's desire to get rid of this POS.
But sadly the GOP leadership in the Hosue and Senate don't give a rats ass a bout the "people's desire". Probably because they don't want to get rid of Obamacare either.
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