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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on October 27, 2014, 11:10:56 AM
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Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:32 PM
KingCharlemagne (576 posts)
Can someone please explain to me why the Republican Party still enjoys
support in the 35-50% range, year in and year out?
Logic says the Republicans deserve no more than 5-10% of the electorate's support and that the real battles should be between centrist Dems and progressive Dems (Socialists and other points left).
I'm sure there's some reason for this surprising resilience to Americans' support for Republicans, but I just don't get it. I really don't.
What explains Republicans' continuing appeal to large swaths of the American electorate
Newb looking for DUmp cred. :yawn:
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:58 PM
Peacetrain (13,277 posts)
4. Fairly simple.. they started a strategy in the 60's by taking local school board elections
, board of supervisors etc..getting themselves entrenched, names becoming known without particularly acknowledging who they were and what they stood for.. slipping under the door like slimy slugs.. getting equal access tossed and then taking over old style media that they could lie outright from without any push back.. the willingness to lie to your face, even when confronted with the lie.. to hang on to that lie.. try this it might explain a lot
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/07/11/how_facts_backfire/
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:07 PM
Star Member OffWithTheirHeads (9,731 posts)
8. Large swaths of the electorate can't even tell you who the vice president is.
The corporate media no longer functions as the fourth estate. Their job is now to keep you as uninformed as possible. A perfect example is during the Viet Nam war, the war was on the T.V. every night. It helped shape public opinion. Now, with the exception of the shock and awe day, you wouldn't even know we are at war at all if you depend on corporate media for your information.
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:14 PM
butterfly77 (17,350 posts)
11. Because some new voters...
and new Americans are uninformed or brainwashed.
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:30 PM
DemocraticWing (301 posts)
20. The Republicans run as the party of straight, white, economically secure Christians.
That makes up a large proportion of the electorate. Poor people and minorities vote in lower numbers (partially due to Republicans suppressing the vote) and the GOP all but says the elections are "us vs. them" to the group of people who keep voting for them. This is why changing demographics are such a threat to the Republicans as they currently exist, but rest assured that a different America will result in both parties adjusting their message to fit the new electorate. That's how it's always been and always will be in our voting system.
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:46 PM
Star Member lpbk2713 (25,819 posts)
27. A lot of people are apolitical.
But their employer/manager preaches GOP/good Dem/bad and
so they go with the flow to stay in the boss' good graces.
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:50 PM
rock (8,752 posts)
29. It has taken several decades
for the repiggy politicians using the press and other means to ignorantize the voting population. This is the part of the US population that believes in woo, Creationism, non-science, non-climate-change, etc. What would you expect from such a mentality?
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:54 PM
Erich Bloodaxe BSN (4,370 posts)
33. Because half the population is of below average intelligence?
(That's always been amusing to me, even if it should be below 'median' intelligence.
But seriously, there are a lot of people who don't think critically, in part because Republicans have spent decades working to dumb down the country. The rich ones want peasants who won't challenge anything they do, and the less rich want to become rich through grifting. That's why they always talk about 'opportunity', treating life as a lottery - 'Hey, vote for us, and there's some incredibly minute chance you might be able to stay afloat while we're doing things to try and sink you!'
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 03:07 PM
emulatorloo (24,857 posts)
37. News media protects Republicans and reports their talking points uncritically
Republican views presented as fact and never questioned.
Republican obstructionism never reported on
That's a huge part of it.
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 03:07 PM
Dont call me Shirley (2,274 posts)
38. The polls are not a true representation of the American electorate.
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 03:08 PM
Star Member VanillaRhapsody (13,057 posts)
39. because 30% of the population are bigots and vote Republican because they believe Republicans
will keep those they hate in an inferior position to them......so they get to keep feeling superior to "someone" at least!
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 03:16 PM
Star Member former9thward (12,022 posts)
42. Your post only makes sense if you think DU is representative of the American public.
On DU there are disputes between center Democrats and Socialist oriented Democrats. But DU does not politically represent the voters.
Blasphemy!
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 04:18 PM
scarystuffyo (462 posts)
47. guns
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 05:18 PM
nakocal (93 posts)
52. They own the media and have locked up the racist vote
Why republicans are still supported is simple. They own the majority of the media. Add to that the fact they they own the votes of the millions of racists who believe that the only reason that they are not wealthy is because minorities are taking their job.
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 06:03 PM
Star Member CanonRay (5,597 posts)
57. Because 25% of the population are complete idiots
and another 15% are religious crazies (note: these groups may overlap). There you have it. No charge.
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 01:13 AM
Star Member Rex (47,138 posts)
87. They have the M$M on their side 24/7
Response to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 02:59 AM
Star Member madokie (41,202 posts)
99. I believe if the truth was known
that the support is no where where they try to tell us it is. Take away God, Guns, Gays and Abortion and you wouldn't have very many republiCONs between here and Washington DC.
No fixing the stupid. The stupid I speak of is the ones who vote based on those 4 issues.
As opposed to you clowns voting for "gimme free shit".
Next Wednesday could be epic! :cheersmate:
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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Yet another subject DUmmies are completely incapable of understanding.
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There's a whole lot of projection going on in that thread.
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esponse to KingCharlemagne (Original post)
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 03:07 PM
Dont call me Shirley (2,274 posts)
38. The polls are not a true representation of the American electorate.
Except when Dems win right? Then it's a "mandate" for Progressive destruction of the country.
Only when the polls favor Republicans do you idiots shrug your shoulders and go "meh".
:whatever:
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Charlemagne? The first emperor of the Holy Roman Empire?
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Sun Oct 26, 2014, 01:32 PM
KingCharlemagne (576 posts)
Can someone please explain to me why the Republican Party still enjoys
support in the 35-50% range, year in and year out?
Logic says the Republicans deserve no more than 5-10% of the electorate's support and that the real battles should be between centrist Dems and progressive Dems (Socialists and other points left).
I'm sure there's some reason for this surprising resilience to Americans' support for Republicans, but I just don't get it. I really don't.
What explains Republicans' continuing appeal to large swaths of the American electorate
I can tell you why this woman votes Republican (for now....they are starting to become little bitches...)
1) I want to keep what I earn, you don't deserve a slice of my pie
2) I think the innocent should be cherished and kept alive and the guilty should be cast off and killed.
3) I know there are smarter, prettier, fitter, and more innovative people than me in the world. And they should prosper from those attributes. Life is not equal. You trying to make everyone's life equal in condition is BULLSHIT. What's there to strive for if it's given to you?!!!
4) I don't think a college degree is needed to get ahead in the world. I think hard work is going to get you further in the long run.
5) Your collective sucking off the gov't teat is disgusting to me. DISGUSTING.
6) I believe in God, Guns, and Glory. :bird:
7) I think our military is badass. You don't.
8) I don't think I should pay for your birth control or viagra for that matter!
9) y'all are lazy
10) y'all are lazy
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I like that. :thumbs: :cheersmate:
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There's a whole lot of projection going on in that thread.
Pretty ridiculous. Every comment seems to want to out do the previous towards fully weaponized stupid.
But this....
KingCharlemagne (576 posts)
Can someone please explain to me why the Republican Party still enjoys
support in the 35-50% range, year in and year out?
Logic says the Republicans deserve no more than 5-10% of the electorate's support and that the real battles should be between centrist Dems and progressive Dems (Socialists and other points left).
Just mystifies me (I know, I know). How does ...........logic? ...say that? :mental:
4) I don't think a college degree is needed to get ahead in the world. I think hard work is going to get you further in the long run.
:hi5: It's one thing to go though the motions of "education." It's a quite another to be educated and understand it. College only confuses people who have no business being there. Accepting limitations makes for happier, far more well-adjusted people.
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Gina's top ten tells it all.
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Gina's top ten tells it all.
and I didn't have to think about it, I just typed out what was in my heart. Sad for the primitives because I can guarantee you that a majority of American's believe exactly what I believe in!
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There's a whole lot of projection going on in that thread.
Ever since talk radio, the internet and FOX news found a way to be heard and expose the insanity of their beliefs, they've been crying like hurt puppies.
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What the fu....dge?
.....the real battles should be between centrist Dems and progressive Dems (Socialists and other points left).
What's further left than totalitarian socialists?
Anybody know?
And then this:
Erich Bloodaxe BSN (4,370 posts) Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:54 PM
33. Because half the population is of below average intelligence?
(That's always been amusing to me, even if it should be below 'median' intelligence.
But seriously, there are a lot of people who don't think critically, in part because Republicans have spent decades working to dumb down the country. The rich ones want peasants who won't challenge anything they do, and the less rich want to become rich through grifting. That's why they always talk about 'opportunity', treating life as a lottery - 'Hey, vote for us, and there's some incredibly minute chance you might be able to stay afloat while we're doing things to try and sink you!'
^^^said by a guy who's a bona fide registered nurse, and who can't find a job.
How is it possible for a registered nurse to be unemployed these days?
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN (4,370 posts) Sun Oct 26, 2014, 02:54 PM
33. Because half the population is of below average intelligence?
(That's always been amusing to me, even if it should be below 'median' intelligence.
But seriously, there are a lot of people who don't think critically, in part because Republicans have spent decades working to dumb down the country. The rich ones want peasants who won't challenge anything they do, and the less rich want to become rich through grifting. That's why they always talk about 'opportunity', treating life as a lottery - 'Hey, vote for us, and there's some incredibly minute chance you might be able to stay afloat while we're doing things to try and sink you!'
WHAT?!!! :rant:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/04/michelle-rhee-my-break-with-the-democrats.html
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Well said Gina. Hi-5
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What the fu....dge?
What's further left than totalitarian socialists?
Anybody know?
And then this:
^^^said by a guy who's a bona fide registered nurse, and who can't find a job.
How is it possible for a registered nurse to be unemployed these days?
Stealing drugs from the med cart will do that to a guy.
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Signing up now or reactivating my sock puppet will raise suspicions.
We need reliable agents to pass back to us the head explosions and wrist slitting.
If we are fortunate, one or two might actually buy the farm if we take both the House and the Senate.
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and I didn't have to think about it, I just typed out what was in my heart. Sad for the primitives because I can guarantee you that a majority of American's believe exactly what I believe in!
You are right about the power of hard work over a college diploma. But a college diploma is the low-bar entry point to almost all professional positions. Some people work their way up but when applying for Manager+ chances are HR is going to put the brakes on as not meeting minimum requirements. In most enterprises (even small ones), that can open an EEO lawsuit at the very least.
On edit "there"<>"their" -- and I am a freaking Grammar Nazi! I can and do blame autocorrect.
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and I didn't have to think about it, I just typed out what was in my heart. Sad for the primitives because I can guarantee you that a majority of American's believe exactly what I believe in!
And you got an H5 from me for kit.
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And you got an H5 from me for kit.
I'll second that.
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4) I don't think a college degree is needed to get ahead in the world. I think hard work is going to get you further in the long run.
In some cases that's true.
Statistically, it overwhelmingly is not.
Often it's the degree itself, or maybe finishing a useful degree is an indicator of persistence and work ethic,
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It looks like the Dummies read the Communist Manifesto and decided that Republicans were behind it.
Literally, every thing they claimed is something that the Left has done.
Taking over media, schools, etc.
Creating a dumb, parasite class.
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There's a whole lot of projection going on in that thread.
Exactly.
Whenever Proglodytes wail about, "dumbed down, brainwashed, easily-led" voters what they're really saying is, "we demand those dumbed down, brainwashed, easily-led vote only vote for us."
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In some cases that's true.
Statistically, it overwhelmingly is not.
Often it's the degree itself, or maybe finishing a useful degree is an indicator of persistence and work ethic,
Sorry, but I'm gonna disagree with you based on my experience. Overwhelmingly, college graduates are lazy, don't know how to use the softwares for our profession and basically just paid for that piece of paper. I have seen the best employees be from on the job training hiring practices. My husband even says he will hire someone with actual experience over a degree and pay them well.
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8) I don't think I should pay for your birth control.......
I will happily pay for their birth control, as long as there is a legal mandate that they USE IT. The number of abortions would drop drastically, and we'd shrink the DUmbass, parasite population in a single generation.
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A lack of a college degree is used by many corporations to underpay otherwise experienced individuals.
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Sorry, but I'm gonna disagree with you based on my experience. Overwhelmingly, college graduates are lazy, don't know how to use the softwares for our profession and basically just paid for that piece of paper. I have seen the best employees be from on the job training hiring practices. My husband even says he will hire someone with actual experience over a degree and pay them well.
Statistically, the median income for men with a bachelor's degree was $66,200 in 2011. (Census Bureau)
Median income for men with a high school diploma but no degree was $40,050.
Of course, Bill Gates was a dropout, and countless art majors are working at the Waffle House.
It may not be true at your company, but nationwide the odds are still drastically in favor of the guy who hangs in for a degree.
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Statistically, the median income for men with a bachelor's degree was $66,200 in 2011. (Census Bureau)
Median income for men with a high school diploma but no degree was $40,050.
Of course, Bill Gates was a dropout, and countless art majors are working at the Waffle House.
It may not be true at your company, but nationwide the odds are still drastically in favor of the guy who hangs in for a degree.
Can't argue with stats. Just from my occupation the no nothings are college grads :fuelfire:
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Can't argue with stats. Just from my occupation the no nothings are college grads :fuelfire:
*know*
:lmao: :tongue:
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*know*
:lmao: :tongue:
She graduated from Haaaavahrd, no doubt . . . :tongue:
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*know*
:lmao: :tongue:
I hate autocorrect. :lmao:
(http://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/system/images/photo_albums/damn-you-autocorrect/large/photo_10632_0-2.jpg?1384968217)
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Can't argue with stats. Just from my occupation the no nothings are college grads :fuelfire:
"No Nothings?" I'll spot you that one since I screwed up "there" vs. "their."
My degree was helpful in that I work with accounting systems -- but my degree was NOT in IT and I have to retrain everyone who gets degrees in IT since they don't know crap.