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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on July 10, 2008, 03:19:51 PM
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Paint It Black (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-10-08 12:20 PM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3594664
Not a joke - Hollywood is remaking "Red Dawn"
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"The tone is going to be very intense, very much keeping in mind the post-9/11 world that we're in," explains Ellsworth. "As Red Dawn scared the heck out of people in 1984, we feel that the world is kind of already filled with a lot of paranoia and unease, so why not scare the hell out of people again?"
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Great, just what we ****ing need. A remake of one of the worst movies ever made, a ****ing nationalistic "Amurika" feel-good movie for the masses. What are they going to do this time, I wonder - have Al Qaeda terrorists parachuting out of a C-130 over some small town in Kansas? Heck, maybe they could get Fred Thompson or Ted Nugent to play C.Thomas Howell's role.
Well, Al-right.
But I bet they f*ck the movie up. Check out the new addition on DVD. The director talks about pissing Hollywood off by making Red Dawn.
BobRossi (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-10-08 12:23 PM
Response to Original message
3. Too late.
The fascists took over 8 years ago.
if that is true, you should be ashes and smoke by now.
crikkett (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-10-08 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #6
17. AL-CIAda (sp)
just sayin'
what a MA-roon..
Paint It Black (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-10-08 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. Honestly, if any country deserves to be invaded and occupied, it might just be the US
After all the shit that we've caused since the end of WWII, sticking our noses into pretty much the entire world's business, and using our military to inflict our will upon weaker countries. Notice that we only bomb countries like the Sudan, Afghanistan, Panama, Grenada, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Serbia, etc. Countries that we know can't really hurt us. Notice that we really haven't ****ed too seriously with North Korea, and that we don't dare do anything to really piss off Russia or China.
Can't we shoot traitors?
newmajority (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-10-08 12:37 PM
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22. My favorite scene from Red Dawn: The Russian soldier "translating" the national monument sign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY66A_5WHdg
caraher (396 posts) Thu Jul-10-08 12:44 PM
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26. Sounds like a neocon reading Middle Eastern history
more like DUmmies reading anything...
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It's damned hard to see how this is going to really end up being an improvement, rather than just one more box-office-bomb twisted piece of Leftard crap flying false colors.
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MGM announced plans to remake two 80's action films at Cannes this weekend. The first, Paul Verhoeven's "Robocop," has long been targeted for remake territory. The second candidate, however, is a new and odd choice for a modern 're-imagining' – 1984's "Red Dawn."
According to The Hollywood Reporter, MGM chiefs Mary Parent and Harry Sloan announced plans to remake the Cold War-era thriller that starred Patrick Swayze and Charlie Sheen.
John Millius' original featured a rag tag bunch of high school jocks banding together to defend their Colorado town as Soviet forces roll in a major scale invasion of the US – they called it "World War 3," I believe. I can't remember what all happened in the movie, 1984 was a long time ago, but I do know that the jocks kicked some commie ass, 1980's style.
So what would a new "Red Dawn" look like? First, could it even be called "Red Dawn" or has the term "red" lost all of its evil import? Would China be the invading force or would we be attacked by Muslim extremists? And most importantly, could they get C Thomas Howell to make a cameo?
Normally I would include a link to The Hollywood Reporter story, to see why I haven't – read this.
(http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Red_Dawn_DVD/red_dawn_dvd__large_.jpg)
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Of course they hate Red Dawn, it is pro-America, pro-freedom and anti-communist. They don't even try to hide it anymore.
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When is Hollywood gonna get around to making
a live action "Heavy Metal" ?
:naughty:
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-10-08 01:34 PM
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60. Now there's a movie franchise that lost the plot!
The original movie, "First Blood" was actually well done, in my opinion. You have this Vietnam vet who shows up in this small town, hoping to find his last remaining buddy from the war, only to find out the guy died from cancer (a direct result of Agent Orange). Before he can even deal with that loss, he's harrassed by the local redneck sherriff, and then treated even worse by some of the nazi ******* cops that work for him.
Is he gonna be a little pissed off about that? Sure he is. Granted, his reaction might have been a little over the top, but nobody could say he wasn't justified in wanting revenge on those dickheads.
Even the second "Rambo" movie was as much about him being betrayed by the US government (Reagan administration, naturally) as it was the body count.
Then came "Rambo III" which was all about cheering on the Afghan rebellion. Funny how they don't show that one on TV anymore. Probably because the "good guys" in that war are now the "bad guys" who allegedly fly planes into buildings and shit like that.
I didn't even bother watching the 4th movie.
newmajority (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-10-08 01:09 PM
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47. I actually read somewhere that the original Red Dawn was based on the invasion of Afghanistan
And the lead Commie colonel in the movie pretty much says something along those lines - that the resistance of the "Wolverines" is the same thing he's seen in every invasion he's been involved in. Which leads him to question the futility of the whole thing, and ultimately allows Patrick Swayze and his wounded brother to walk away when he could have easily killed them both.
Of course this is the lesson that would fly right over the heads of the Freepers. Along with the fact that the insurgents in Iraq right now are the equivalents of the "Wolverines".
It was the Nic COl who led them escape at the end of the movie because he was disillusioned by 'imperial agression' he saw his own people involved with.
Of course, the DUmmies wouldn't understand this small bit of irony in the movie...
zbdent (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-10-08 01:07 PM
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44. wait a minute ...
a country gets invaded by a superpower, and a group of people pull terrorist attacks on the occupying forces?
Which is this - Reagan's 80s, or Iraq? I'm confused ...
I like to think that the Repukes would love to forget this movie ... the fact that they were glorifying what would today be considered terrorists would go against what they're trying to sell us about Iraq ...
:banghead:
Oregone (658 posts) Thu Jul-10-08 01:06 PM
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41. Hm, I actually liked the original (I'm a minority)...
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 01:06 PM by Oregone
Though it was a tad 80's and cheesy.
Its a movie you can throw in a fundies face to confuse them when they are calling Iraqi freedom fighters terrorists.
I didn't see it as a patriotic movie, but rather an anti-occupation scenerio...it asks that questions, what would you do? Of course they used Russia shamelessly during the cold war, but what are they going to use Canada or something? Canadian Bacon was much less of a scary movie. With a good writing staff and a good director, the concept could form the basis of a really incredible picture. Then again, there are a variety out there based on true events that are already good (Wind that Shakes the Barley, for example). But if something isn't about America, are Americans really going to pay attention?
Oregone (658 posts) Thu Jul-10-08 01:07 PM
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43. Military coup is the only realistic scenerio I could think of.
realism and DUmmies don't mix.
Paint It Black (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-10-08 01:08 PM
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45. Maybe it will involve Muslim sleeper cells
'Cause they're everywhere, you know. Never know when all these so-called peaceful Muslims are going to turn on us, and stab us in the back. Haven't you heard the freeper spin, that it's okay for Muslims to lie in order to accomplish their goal of global domination?
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I bought the collectors edition in May. I hadn't seen the movie in about 10 years. It was better than I remember.
Maybe the remake will be about people fleeing to the mountains to escape the civil war that happens when the Democrats get a major majority in both houses and win the presidency and finally and completely piss off the people who own the bulk of the fire arms in this country.
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I bought the collectors edition in May. I hadn't seen the movie in about 10 years. It was better than I remember.
Maybe the remake will be about people fleeing to the mountains to escape the civil war that happens when the Democrats get a major majority in both houses and win the presidency and finally and completely piss off the people who own the bulk of the fire arms in this country.
That'd work. I'd pay to see an updated Red Dawn character scream "Wolverines!", and fire an RPG into a bus full of stoned DUers on the way to a protest meetup.
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I bought the collectors edition in May. I hadn't seen the movie in about 10 years. It was better than I remember.
Maybe the remake will be about people fleeing to the mountains to escape the civil war that happens when the Democrats get a major majority in both houses and win the presidency and finally and completely piss off the people who own the bulk of the fire arms in this country.
That'd work. I'd pay to see an updated Red Dawn character scream "Wolverines!", and fire an RPG into a bus full of stoned DUers on the way to a protest meetup.
I would love to see the different reactions of the audience. Those that boo get taken out and shot. :hyper:
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That'd work. I'd pay to see an updated Red Dawn character scream "Wolverines!", and fire an RPG into a bus full of stoned DUers on the way to a protest meetup.
**** Wolverines. REBELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rocker2:
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could it even be called "Red Dawn" or has the term "red" lost all of its evil import?
Knowing hollywood it'll be called Brokeback Dawn
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[youtube=425,350]DprFYMvWXLo[/youtube]
Never bring a Kalishnikov to a Hind fight!
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Never bring a Kalishnikov to a Hind fight!
See, a "Rebel" would never do that. Only a dumbass Wolverine. :whatever: :-)
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could it even be called "Red Dawn" or has the term "red" lost all of its evil import?
Knowing hollywood it'll be called Brokeback Dawn
Didn't you see the Deleted Scene in the collectors edition where they find Swayze and that Indian kid whose name no one remembers in the tent?
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could it even be called "Red Dawn" or has the term "red" lost all of its evil import?
No.
Knowing hollywood it'll be called Brokeback Dawn
Didn't you see the Deleted Scene in the collectors edition where they find Swayze and that Indian kid whose name no one remembers in the tent?
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could it even be called "Red Dawn" or has the term "red" lost all of its evil import?
Knowing hollywood it'll be called Brokeback Dawn
Didn't you see the Deleted Scene in the collectors edition where they find Swayze and that Indian kid whose name no one remembers in the tent?
Do tell, as I don't have it . . .
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Of course this is the lesson that would fly right over the heads of the Freepers
We understand it just fine, DUmbass.
Haven't you heard the freeper spin, that it's okay for Muslims to lie in order to accomplish their goal of global domination?
Al-Taqiya. Look it up, stupid. But I guess reality is "freeper spin" to you.
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Haven't you heard the freeper spin, that it's okay for Muslims to lie in order to accomplish their goal of global domination?
Al-Taqiya. Look it up, stupid. But I guess reality is "freeper spin" to you.
Funny, it's IN the Qu'ran. ...and if they said the Qu'ran was lying they'd be beheaded by said Muslims. Liberalism is a suicide pact.
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could it even be called "Red Dawn" or has the term "red" lost all of its evil import?
Knowing hollywood it'll be called Brokeback Dawn
Sand Storm at Dawn
::)
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Haven't you heard the freeper spin, that it's okay for Muslims to lie in order to accomplish their goal of global domination?
Al-Taqiya. Look it up, stupid. But I guess reality is "freeper spin" to you.
Funny, it's IN the Qu'ran. ...and if they said the Qu'ran was lying they'd be beheaded by said Muslims. Liberalism is a suicide pact.
Indeed, with all its contradictions and stupidity.
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Indeed, with all its contradictions and stupidity.
Exactly. Iran, and MOST Islamic countries, execute homosexuals. Who are the bad guys to them? The Christians. :whatever:
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Indeed, with all its contradictions and stupidity.
Exactly. Iran, and MOST Islamic countries, execute homosexuals. Who are the bad guys to them? The Christians. :whatever:
Both Muslims and Christians dislike liberals.
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could it even be called "Red Dawn" or has the term "red" lost all of its evil import?
Knowing hollywood it'll be called Brokeback Dawn
Sand Storm at Dawn
::)
Dawn of the Camel
Hadji Dawn
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could it even be called "Red Dawn" or has the term "red" lost all of its evil import?
Knowing hollywood it'll be called Brokeback Dawn
HI5, that almost made me snort my margarita through my nose (OUCH!).
How Hillary Clinton lead a rag-tag bunch of homos, blacks, and illegals to save the evil oppressing white America from the world's nastiest terrorists.
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could it even be called "Red Dawn" or has the term "red" lost all of its evil import?
Knowing hollywood it'll be called Brokeback Dawn
HI5, that almost made me snort my margarita through my nose (OUCH!).
How Hillary Clinton lead a rag-tag bunch of homos, blacks, and illegals to save the evil oppressing white America from the world's nastiest terrorists.
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How Hillary Clinton lead a rag-tag bunch of homos, blacks, and illegals to save the evil oppressing terroist from the world's nastiest white America .
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Maybe they will go the Hollywood route and make it about a ragtag bunch of DUers fighting ChimpyMcHitler's Marshall Law!
Can't you just picture them now?
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l307/asdf2231/532896_3e5636ce74_m.jpg)
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It's damned hard to see how this is going to really end up being an improvement, rather than just one more box-office-bomb twisted piece of Leftard crap flying false colors.
That's what I'm thinking.
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When is Hollywood gonna get around to making
a live action "Heavy Metal" ?
:naughty:
Yeah! That would be cool! Hi5!