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Title: Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters
Post by: dutch508 on October 17, 2014, 10:03:13 AM
The penalty from treason was pretty nasty. Pity they won't use it...

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The Magistrate (84,976 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014921014

Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters


 :-)

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bigworld (1,371 posts)
1. Dealing with a medieval religious mindset via a medieval law I don't have a problem with that.


Neither do I. Yet here in Barry's world we open the doors to muslim extremists.

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The Magistrate (84,976 posts)
9. Nor Do I, Sir There is something oddly appropriate to it.


 :)

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dembotoz (6,283 posts)
2. understand the inquisition was lots of fun

 :thatsright:

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mainer (7,967 posts)
7. How about just lifetime banishment? If they leave to fight, they can't come back again. That would be easier to enforce and wouldn't fill up courts and prisons.


Maybe if we just left them alone they would be nice to us.... Oh, yeah. That hasn't worked so far.

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geek tragedy (41,388 posts)
5. Getting medieval on their asses nt

I thought this was a natural line based on the story, but:

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The Magistrate (84,976 posts)
8. It Is Rather Cold, Sir The sort of thing makes you want to hunt up a sweater when you read of it....



Now... what exactly do you think tM is saying here? Is the concept of medieval warfare chilling or that he thinks the line is over the top? The west is being forced into a new crusade against the muslims so maybe he is pointing out the historical significance of the former crusades. Or maybe he is just an idiot.

Title: Re: Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters
Post by: Wineslob on October 17, 2014, 10:32:52 AM
I vote idiot, sir.
Title: Re: Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 17, 2014, 11:29:05 AM
I vote idiot, sir.

Agreed.

Plus . . .

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The Magistrate (84,976 posts)
8. It Is Rather Cold, Sir The sort of thing makes you want to hunt up a sweater when you read of it....

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Title: Re: Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters
Post by: dutch508 on October 17, 2014, 12:54:45 PM
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Scootaloo (13,983 posts)
17. It's illegal to render someone stateless.

 O-)

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bread_and_roses (5,906 posts)
16. oh good - now people can be executed for mocking the Royals ...or even "imagining" the death of the King! ... just like in the good old days! Maybe they can bring back drawing & quartering - in public - too!
ISIL or whatever they're calling themselves is a far lesser threat to the "West" than our continued descent into a society divided into serfs and Aristos, or our pusillanimous willingness to imprison and torture and disappear people, not to mention blow children around the world to bloody bits in the name of "security."


Yeah... that's one sentence...

You need to calm down Fruitloop. You are becoming hysterical.

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bread_and_roses (5,906 posts)
27. I am being sardonic - however ....... unfortunately, there is nothing "hysterical" in pointing out the slide into such gross inequality of wealth and privilege that we begin to look like a medieval oligarchy, nor our out-of-control security apparatus, nor our wanton slaughter of innocents. A regression to medieval notions of what constitutes "treason" seems ironically apt.


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The Magistrate (84,985 posts)
24. Lord Haw-Haw Was Hanged Under This Statute, Sir, After The Second World War
Mr. Casement, the Irish rebel ( among other things ), was hanged under it during the Great War.
I cannot recall any other cases off-hand of its use in the period.
The penalties have changed greatly down the years, and capital punishment was abolished in England some while ago.


William Brooke Joyce (24 April 1906 – 3 January 1946), nicknamed Lord Haw-Haw, was an Irish-American fascist politician and Nazi propaganda broadcaster to the United Kingdom during the Second World War. He was convicted of one count of high treason in 1945. The Court of Appeal and the House of Lords upheld his conviction. He was hanged at Wandsworth Prison by Albert Pierrepoint.

It doesn't say which law he was found guilty under, btw.

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christx30 (2,250 posts)
23. I don't really mind this. It's pretty troubling to have someone, after seeing everything going on there, with the murder, rapes, displacing 10's of thousands, selling girls into sex slavery, the beheadings, to see all of that and say "I want to be part of that. Those people are me."
So if this is the kind of society the ISIS groupies want, let's give it to them. I always like to see when people that want less freedom for others lose theirs.


Yeah... your ban notice is being typed up as we speak, obvious mole.

Title: Re: Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters
Post by: thundley4 on October 17, 2014, 08:11:22 PM
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bread_and_roses (5,906 posts)
16. oh good - now people can be executed for mocking the Royals ...or even "imagining" the death of the King! .

Hell, Obama isn't a King nor a fit president, yet you DUmmies accuse anyone that disagrees with him, of treason.  The correct penalty for Treason is death.  You want to do the same thing here.
Title: Re: Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters
Post by: vesta111 on October 17, 2014, 09:29:17 PM
Hell, Obama isn't a King nor a fit president, yet you DUmmies accuse anyone that disagrees with him, of treason.  The correct penalty for Treason is death.  You want to do the same thing here.

it is difficult to charge the every day  man/woman with treason..   Few of us Americans are in any place to do harm to our country

.  Yet, now and then an average person will find themselves in a job, he will be given  chump change  to make a few--a very few bucks --to get another company  information on how to one up them., the company they work for.

Is it the little money or the fun game they play, Drop boxes and midnight calls, some people are  boarded to death and this brings  excitement  into  their  lives.

Helps to find lonely gay man or men in living in a lonely marriage with kids that drive them crazy.. Wives they cannot divorce as they have been married 10+ YEARS .

The idea of having a secret life, a life of getting out of the reality and into world they believe is there like the movies
but to their despair is just a dream for them and may get them hung in on way or the other.

 

Title: Re: Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters
Post by: Zathras on October 18, 2014, 05:07:16 AM
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dembotoz (6,283 posts)
2. understand the inquisition was lots of fun

Of course it was DUmbass. Anyone who knows The History of the World....Part 1....is aware of this fact...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZegQYgygdw[/youtube]
Title: Re: Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters
Post by: obumazombie on October 18, 2014, 05:32:40 AM
Ought da de fay...send in the nuns !
Title: Re: Britain may use mediaeval treason law to tackle Islamist fighters
Post by: diesel driver on October 18, 2014, 06:33:01 AM
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christx30 (2,250 posts)

23. I don't really mind this. It's pretty troubling to have someone, after seeing everything going on there, with the murder, rapes, displacing 10's of thousands, selling girls into sex slavery, the beheadings, to see all of that and say "I want to be part of that. Those people are me." So if this is the kind of society the ISIS groupies want, let's give it to them.

I always like to see when people that want less freedom for others lose theirs.


The irony went right thru his pointy little head, nothing in there to slow it down.