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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: ReardenSteel on July 09, 2008, 09:27:33 PM
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-09-08 08:29 PM
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Look people, Jesse Jackson was not making a public speech or statement
Advertisements [?]This was supposed to be a private conversation with the AA reporter. Lot's of blacks feel that Obama is talking down to them and are disappointed with some of his changes in position since winning the nomination. Just like lots of white folks on the left are disappointed for the same reason. It's like Obama USED the black voters to get the nomination and now he is dissing them to appeal to more whites. It does not matter what the reality is...that is the perception. Jesse Jackson sees this as a problem and fears that Obama may be turning off some of the black vote that he will need in November to win. More than anything, Jesse wants Obama to win. So stop trying to make this an ego trip by Jesse. Jesse has paid his dues more than most blacks, including Obama.
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faygokid (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-09-08 08:31 PM
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2. He was set up. This was Faux News. They will revel in it for days. Weeks.
You NEVER assume you're not miked on Faux News. This was a setup.
And they will play the racial card to the hilt.
:lmao:
islandmkl (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-09-08 08:40 PM
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9. there is no 'quantity' threshold for dues....
so, remind me, when was the last time JJ accomplished anything that did not benefit JJ first...
Barack may not be the black man JJ envisioned attaining the presidency...which may say volumes about JJ and his desire to be the leader of 'his people' as opposed to the leader of 'all the people'...
JJ, and he has done a great deal of good in his day, is nothing at all compared to his mentor...not the drive, not the dedication, not the strength...for him to say anything on or off the record dissing Obama reveals something about JJ and his ego...
JJ should apply his many talents to getting Obama elected...and leave it at that...
:-)
CakeGrrl (869 posts) Wed Jul-09-08 08:51 PM
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15. Another thinly-disguised Obama bash, this time in defense of Jesse Jackson
With "support" like this, the McCain 527's can take a break.
McCain has 527's???
pot luck (10 posts) Wed Jul-09-08 08:53 PM
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17. Well, this black person isn't disappointed with Obama
nor is any other black person I know. I agree 100% with everything he's said about personal responsibility and how more black men should step up. It's not difference from anything that I have said, and I don't feel like he's sold me or anyone else out to pander to white voters..
:whatever: Try harder pretend liberal.
SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-09-08 08:56 PM
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18. No such thing as "private conversation" for a public-person
Phones record now, cameras record..Unless you are with your own family in a sound-proof, bug-free room, you cannot be sure your words will only be for them..
Even family members can rat you out.. (see Dog, the Bounty Hunter)
If you do not want to read your words on the front page, or hinted at, by poor befuddled Wolf Blizter, then STFU..
:thatsright: :mental:
One could try not saying something stupid in front of a camera in a giant recording studio that is a national newsroom.
elkston (26 posts) Wed Jul-09-08 08:57 PM
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19. I'm black guy ...
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 09:00 PM by elkston
and I don't feel Obama has slighted us in any way.
I fully support the "tough love"-sort of advice he is giving to some of our black males. Its nothing new, really. Plenty of blacks have been saying the same thing -- just not so publicly.
Furthermore, Obama isn't just scoring hits and moving away. He pledges reforms in education and social programs that will improve outreach and oppportunities in this critical group.
But the desire to change and take personal responsibility in ones future MUST be there first. This cannot happen without concerned parents or equivalent community elders.
Another troll soon to bite the dust. :rotf:
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faygokid (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-09-08 08:31 PM
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2. He was set up. This was Faux News. They will revel in it for days. Weeks.
You NEVER assume you're not miked on Faux News. This was a setup.
And they will play the racial card to the hilt.
Did Faggokid just imply that Jessie was being a racist to Obama? :rotf:
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The OP is right. Jesse was just being his normal self and not his mediaed up bullshit persona.
It is going to be fun watching the Duchebags twist their small minds into making this a good thing.
The fireworks are just begining, good thing I stocked up on popcorn before the ethanol fiasco.
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faygokid (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-09-08 08:31 PM
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2. He was set up. This was Faux News. They will revel in it for days. Weeks.
You NEVER assume you're not miked on Faux News. This was a setup.
And they will play the racial card to the hilt.
Did Faggokid just imply that Jessie was being a racist to Obama? :rotf:
I don't know what that was, lol. Some libs would not see the proof in the pudding if it bit them in the ass on the way out.
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faygokid (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-09-08 08:31 PM
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2. He was set up. This was Faux News. They will revel in it for days. Weeks.
You NEVER assume you're not miked on Faux News. This was a setup.
And they will play the racial card to the hilt.
Did Faggokid just imply that Jessie was being a racist to Obama? :rotf:
I don't know what that was, lol. Some libs would not see the proof in the pudding if it bit them in the ass on the way out.
Those words should NEVER be used in the same sentence. :hammer:
:tongue:
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Jesse Jackson is nothing more than a wart on the ass of society.... :censored:
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Mimosa (494 posts) Wed Jul-09-08 11:00 PM
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43. WtH R U? OBAMA IS OUR CANDIDATE!
Genna, u don't know what you're talking about. This is Democratic Underground in case U don't know it. Barack Obama is OUR candidate. Anybody trying to cut off his nuts will have to come through US!
MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-09-08 09:03 PM
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23. If anyone thinks that Faux news isn't trying to divide the Black
community by class......
Yes, Jessee Jackson has been at some of this country's most historical moments. However; either Jessee has gotten soft or he has forgotten...there are still real enemies and real threats to minorities, women and anyone outside the norm. Faux is amongst those threats....
Obama's statement about responsibility goes across races, he was speaking to all Americans.
Faux has proven again they have no integrity....what's new?
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Leave...Jessie...ALOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-09-08 09:03 PM
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23. If anyone thinks that Faux news isn't trying to divide the Black
community by class......
Yeah, we all know the left would never divide people into groups or classes. They are the party of rugged individualists. ::)
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As I see it, Jesse (and "Reverend" Al Sharpton) is going to lose a whole lot of stature if Obama wins. I seem to remember that Jesse was a Hillary supporter. He still is. Soooo, he says that Obama's been talking down to "black people." He puts the seed into the minds of the black voters. Will he have a big effect on the black vote, to supress it? God only knows, but Jesse ain't hedging his bets. He's trying to get the "black victimhood" back to the fore. Obama's recent remarks have been for black males to have responsibility for their actions (and children they father in the 'hood). Jackson wants the "black victimhood" vote, and if it goes to Obama, Jackson's stature is reduced. Jesse Jackson's ego will not let that happen.
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:cheersmate:
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That was teh ghey.
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My my my...the lengths the DUmmies will go to protect their Messiah.
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My my my...the lengths the DUmmies will go to protect their Messiah.
They do not know how to lose, winning and control is everything .... even when they lose they cannot accept defeat.
The GOP, on the other hand are born losers, I hope they prove me wrong. Remember the gentlemanly gesture of the GOP when they allowed the minority party retain their chairmanships way back when? :whatever:
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Jesse is not for Obama, nor is Obama for Jesse......Jesse is part of the Clinton machine.
Should Obama get elected....Jesse's going to have a very tough time.......saying "oh woe, is the black man....we are sooooo oppressed".
Guess he'd have to get a real job..... :rotf:
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Nothing will change for the "black man" until they start adopting life styles which enhance their survival. No, not even a magic negro can make that happen.
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My my my...the lengths the DUmmies will go to protect their Messiah.
They do not know how to lose, winning and control is everything .... even when they lose they cannot accept defeat.
The GOP, on the other hand are born losers, I hope they prove me wrong. Remember the gentlemanly gesture of the GOP when they allowed the minority party retain their chairmanships way back when? :whatever:
I remember that silly gesture all too well.
At times in my life it seems the entire Republican Party is suffering from Battered Wives Syndrome.
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You know what else wasn't intended to be a public speech or statement?
When Dick Cheney told Pat Leahy to go **** himself, but, that isn't how it was reported...
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You know what else wasn't intended to be a public speech or statement?
When Dick Cheney told Pat Leahy to go **** himself, but, that isn't how it was reported...
It wasn't intended for the President's comment about Andrew Clymer being an "asshole" to be made public either...didn't stop the mdia from making a week long issue out of it.
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You know what else wasn't intended to be a public speech or statement?
When Dick Cheney told Pat Leahy to go **** himself, but, that isn't how it was reported...
It wasn't intended for the President's comment about Andrew Clymer being an "*******" to be made public either...didn't stop the mdia from making a week long issue out of it.
That's the kind of stuff that makes me think Jackson said what he said on purpose. (his son had a very ready response eh?) Pundits have already been saying they think this will actaully help Obama. This kind of thing is old school politics. Kerry did it at a union rally in 2004. It was even used as a plot device in an episode of the TV show The West Wing.
Jackson got just what he wanted. He got tons of publicity and "street cred" as a "black leader" weather Obama wins or not. (fwiw, if some yahoo proclaimed himself a "white leader" i'd tell him to go fark himself)