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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 06, 2014, 04:44:14 PM
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Cali_Democrat (22,132 posts)
Was Thomas Duncan Initially Turned Away From The Hospital Because He's Black And Uninsured?
Where Ebola Meets Concerns Over Race, Class and the Uninsured
As the condition of patient Thomas Eric Duncan in Dallas deteriorates, serious questions are being raised about why he was turned away from a hospital after his initial complaints of illness.
BY: CHARLES D. ELLISON
Posted: Oct. 6 2014 3:00 AM
It’s a question that’s left everyone scratching their heads: How does a fully equipped hospital send an Ebola-infected man home—right after he arrived from West Africa and complained about being sick?
Some observers and public health experts are beginning to wonder if there’s an elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about: race and the politics of health insurance. Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas, the private medical campus where Thomas Eric Duncan is currently under care and isolation, still can’t explain exactly how medical staff let the 42-year-old Liberian national go home with useless antibiotics. Hospital officials have only said that Duncan’s travel history wasn’t “communicated,†and now mainstream media reports are stuck on everything from malfunctions in Presbyterian hospital’s electronic record system to Duncan being dishonest about the level of his Ebola exposure when he left Liberia.
But few want to touch the pointy eggshells of race and class in the frantic discussion over Ebola as it enters the United States. Did Duncan get initially turned away because he is black and, possibly, uninsured?
Would it have been different if Duncan had been white and insured?
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/10/where_ebola_meets_concerns_over_race_class_and_the_uninsured.html
Voice for Peace (11,311 posts)
15. Maybe a mix of both: an automatic assumption about the man, made at an unconscious level,
leads to paying him less attention, spending less time, listening
less closely, and this is not at all a leap. This is systemic
racism/classism, not overtly discriminatory but built in.
Poor, black, probably uninsured, maybe poor English, person
is unimportant in the big greedy scheme, and that's the way
it is. Somebody who doesn't matter very much, by habit
of society.
Warpy (78,874 posts)
20. Being uninsured works like magic to keep you from being admitted
no matter what contagious and loathsome disease you have. I was uninsured for nearly 30 years and that's how it worked for me.
Remember Perry is defending Texas from the evil of giving people access to healthcare. Without the Medicaid expansion, hospitals are having to eat a lot of uncollectable bills.
You bet your ass he was sent home with what the docs knew were useless antibiotics because he was uninsured. That's the way the system doesn't work for anybody but the fat cats at the top in Texas.
Lurker Deluxe (496 posts)
43. Damn ...
How many "contagious and loathsome diseases" did you have where you got sent home from a hospital with no care ... in that thirty year span.
:rofl:
I know here in Texas we have like ... I dunno, two level one trauma centers within the city limits and one down on Galveston Island. I've been to Ben Taub one time when a friend tried to kill himself and shot himself in the head and that is where he went. Insurance was not something that was even mentioned until after he was helped.
You can bitch about alot (like everyone does, everyday) but to start saying that Texas has shitty medial facilities and does not take care of emergencies well is pretty ****ed up. Texas has a bunghole load of medical teaching facilities and hospitals to back them up, I have never known someone to go to either Ben Taub or Memorial Hermann with any type of injury and be turned away.
Sometimes a **** up is just that ... how do you even know what the race of the attending was? Or the nurse, admitting administrator?
FFS!
Dreamer Tatum (9,025 posts)
11. If urban Texas ERs turned away people because they're black
it would have come up by now.
Unless someone has actual data or an utterly convincing counterfactual, this is nothing more than race-baiting.
Race-baiting is the go-to method of covering Obama's ass.
Which leads me to believe there is something within Obama's purview that he fumbled -- yet again -- and this is part of a pre-emptive, blame-shifting ass-covering.
Spitfire of ATJ (17,848 posts)
14. White America will only care when a 19 year old blonde girl gets it.
Dreamer Tatum (9,025 posts)
16. It's all over the news, all day.
Not seeing where on earth you can get your claim from.
Spitfire of ATJ (17,848 posts)
22. Observation.
Dreamer Tatum (9,025 posts)
24. Where is this White America you speak of, anyway? nt
JDPriestly (45,573 posts)
17. The answer is "yes." In France, he would have been treated no matter where he came from,
no matter how much money he could pay, no matter whether he was insured. We claim to have the best medical system in the world.
No matter what the answer to these questions about Duncan are, we do not have a medical system good enough to protect public health, that is your health, my health, our children's health, if these questions can be raised at all.
Dreamer Tatum (9,025 posts)
21. And in France they'd have known he had Ebola right away
because FRANCE.
Only here can someone indict an entire healthcare system because a patient withheld a truth that
was in his and everyone else's interest that he disclose.
But hey, let's not just make this thread an attack on make-believe racism.
LET'S ALSO MAKE IT ABOUT CAPITALISM!!!
Scuba (40,419 posts)
25. Same issue as sick days for food service workers. We either care about our collective health ...
... or we care about maximizing profits for insurance, drug and other medical industry corporations while keeping taxes low on the wealthy. These are the choices we make.
I think the national Democratic Party is remiss for not making our collective health a major plank in the Party's platform. It should start with Medicare for All, including dental, optical, hearing aids and mental health services. Add to that paid sick time, better oversight of the healthcare industry, better preparedness for disasters (including epidemics), and better training for our healthcare professionals.
And yes, we can afford it.
(http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2014/141006-whats-wrong-with-this-picture.jpg)
snooper2 (21,827 posts)
33. if he was "turned away" how did he get the useless antibiotics?
^ freeper troll?
Liberal_Stalwart71 (16,631 posts)
55. Race and not having insurance are highly correlated. So, yes is my answer.
They LOVE racism.
Their biggest fear is a world without racism.
riqster (11,086 posts)
51. Possible. Until Repubs stop blocking access to care, such questions will be valid.
My son died because an insurer refused coverage. And he is not the only one.
http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2014/06/25/two-years-ago-today-americas-profit-driven-health-care-system-killed-my-only-son-warning-profanity/
The ACA helped him stay alive a bit longer, and bless President Obama for that:
http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/if-not-for-obamacare-my-son-would-have-died-even-sooner/
But the end result must be the severance of profit from health care: because as long as greedy bastards profit by denying care, people will suffer.
KamaAina (54,438 posts)
71. Wouldn't it suck if that were the case
and an epidemic started here because of it?
Suck?
You racist ****s would be dancing with delight.
jonjensen (120 posts)
75. Perry turns down obama care money what else can hospitals do to avoid bankruptcy
He was not the only one turned out by texas hospitals after gov. perry refused medicade money. Texas hospitals that treat uninsured are going bankrupt!
Sancho (2,987 posts)
78. That's what I thought from the beginning...
he was never diagnosed. They didn't spend a second with him...probably have a policy to hand anyone without insurance a script and send them out the door.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025627980
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(http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2014/141006-whats-wrong-with-this-picture.jpg)
DUmmies, I know exactly what's wrong with that picture, Obama's economic policies.
Stop blaming the 1% "boogeyman".
:bird:
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So Duncan wasn't immediately diagnosed with ebola and treated because of racism and evil capitalism.
Whatever you say, primitives. :mental:
Beats thinking, I guess.
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I don't think a president in the history of this country has had so many people willing to carry his water and make excuses for him.
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If he had been kept there in isolation and ended up not having the virus, the DUmmies would be hollering racism. There's no winning with them.
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(http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2014/141006-whats-wrong-with-this-picture.jpg)
DUmmies, I know exactly what's wrong with that picture, Obama's economic policies.
Stop blaming the 1% "boogeyman".
:bird:
Yet these same DUmmies seem to be unable to 'connect the dots' - The reason that stock investors are fat with earnings is because Obama's Ministry of Stash Enhancement keeps pumping money into the markets.
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It had nothing to do with racism. Yes, Thomas Duncan should of been admitted immediately after the first visit to the hospital. Hs second visit had him vomiting while taken on ambulance and contact with other people. Stupidest post in a while. :mental:
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I'm pretty sure Ebola is caused by Ebonics.
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These DUmpasses make me want to vomit. They all need to be shipped off to a real island.
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Mon Oct 6, 2014, 12:56 PM
Star Member Cali_Democrat (22,143 posts)
Was Thomas Duncan Initially Turned Away From The Hospital Because He's Black And Uninsured?
But few want to touch the pointy eggshells of race and class in the frantic discussion over Ebola as it enters the United States. Did Duncan get initially turned away because he is black and, possibly, uninsured?
So, he might have insurance but the DUmmies assume that he doesn't since he's black.
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I would expect nothing less from those who worship Margaret Sanger. She hated black people as well.
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These DUmpasses make me want to vomit. They all need to be shipped off to a real island.
The more malaria infested, the better. :fuelfire:
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The more malaria infested, the better. :fuelfire:
Some time during the second term of George Bush, the United Nations released a report that named certain environmentalists as the biggest mass-murderers of the twentieth century; those who'd gotten DDT banned worldwide.
Bigger mass-murderers than the usual gang of suspects.
Apparently worldwide deaths from malaria the latter half of the past century far exceeded what Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, et al, had achieved.
The report was soon thereafter pulled and toned down a little bit, to politically-correctize it--although its basic premise remained the same; the numbers of those who'd died from malaria.
But as we're talking mostly black victims, and as Democrats, liberals, and primitives don't like black people, well, nobody cares.....
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I would expect nothing less from those who worship Margaret Sanger. She hated black people as well.
Don't forget "Silent Spring". It killed a majority of minorities.
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riqster (11,086 posts)
51. Possible. Until Repubs stop blocking access to care, such questions will be valid.
My son died because an insurer refused coverage. And he is not the only one.
http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2014/06/25/two-years-ago-today-americas-profit-driven-health-care-system-killed-my-only-son-warning-profanity/
The ACA helped him stay alive a bit longer, and bless President Obama for that:
http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2012/06/27/if-not-for-obamacare-my-son-would-have-died-even-sooner/
But the end result must be the severance of profit from health care: because as long as greedy bastards profit by denying care, people will suffer.
Huh. Two railing blog posts on your obscure blog (radical centrist? uh-huh ) about an unnamed son with an unnamed disease. Almost like it was a :bouncy: , but that couldn't possibly be, could it.....
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They have already said that the DR that saw him was not given that tidbit of info about Africa. Ebola presents itself like influenza :thatsright:
Symptoms show up 2 to 21 days after infection and usually include:
High fever.
Headache.
Joint and muscle aches.
Sore throat.
Weakness.
Stomach pain.
Lack of appetite.
Why must EVERYTHING be about race? I bet my left teat that if he dies they are gonna march the streets because the white victims lived. :-)
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Warpy (78,874 posts)
20. Being uninsured works like magic to keep you from being admitted
no matter what contagious and loathsome disease you have. I was uninsured for nearly 30 years and that's how it worked for me.
and yet you lived......... ::)
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They have already said that the DR that saw him was not given that tidbit of info about Africa. Ebola presents itself like influenza :thatsright:
Symptoms show up 2 to 21 days after infection and usually include:
High fever.
Headache.
Joint and muscle aches.
Sore throat.
Weakness.
Stomach pain.
Lack of appetite.
Why must EVERYTHING be about race? I bet my left teat that if he dies they are gonna march the streets because the white victims lived. :-)
I must have Ebola because I have all those symptoms but lack of appetite.....and I thought it was just old age.
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and yet you lived......... ::)
And alas how unfortunate for the rest of humanity.
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I must have Ebola because I have all those symptoms but lack of appetite.....and I thought it was just old age.
It is, you are :old:
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It is, you are :old:
That's what they tell me......but here's a question for you.
When you're young they tell you, "You can't do that. You're not old enough."
When you're grown up they tell you, "You can't do that. You're to old."
What is the right age?
I must have shot right past it.
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DU Mode:
Was it good? Yes - Thank Lord Obama, he gets credit. No - Your fault, you racist teabagger bastards...also probably Bush's fault too.
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Huh. Two railing blog posts on your obscure blog (radical centrist? uh-huh ) about an unnamed son with an unnamed disease. Almost like it was a :bouncy: , but that couldn't possibly be, could it.....
When I got out of bed this morning it was much like getting out of the Way Back Machine. Dreams you know, where we spend 1/3 of our lives in a state of non reality.
We spend a large part of our life zonked out to the world while our brain keeps trying to gather up the memories of sigh, sound, smell, feelings of love, hate, fear and keep us sane. Try going 4 days without sleep, by the 5 or 6 day one is a raving lunatic.
My dream that is slipping away so quickly has to be written down.
My small elephant about the size of a pony was dancing about wearing a red T shirt with the written words-----1975 AIDS beginning. On the other side of the room rats were running about wearing their T shirts with Ebola 2007. Behind them came the Mice with tiny little shirts with 3-4 E numbered diseases that kill our youngsters.
When fully awake I decided to compare the two diseases that took over the world that came out of Africa. First came what I remembered of the total confusion about AIDS, same thing said by the Government and the so called medical experts at the time that did not have a clue as to what they were dealing with. I dug up some old press releases on AIDS and was not that surprised to find that if I were to remove the AIDS disease and replace with Ebola, almost word for word what was put out 30+ years ago to calm the public is the exact thing now put out by the CDC and Scientists that have no idea what they are dealing with.
Possibility's -------- Is Ebola a mutation of AIDS ?
Will our scientist community and the PC government except the wrath of the Gay community if found true??
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I have never seen a freak show the likes of the DUmp.
How so many can collectively fabricate something out of thin air and then convince themselves it is true is beyond me.
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How so many can collectively fabricate something out of thin air and then convince themselves it is true is beyond me.
Oh, it's easy enough, if one's a primitive.
But if one's a thinking human being, no.
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The worst thing that could happen with the Ebola guy in Texas is that he survives.
If CNN interviews him coming out of the hospital with a big grin, it will give huge incentive to countless more diseased African obamaites to lie their way through Immigration.
I hope he dies.
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The worst thing that could happen with the Ebola guy in Texas is that he survives.
If CNN interviews him coming out of the hospital with a big grin, it will give huge incentive to countless more diseased African obamaites to lie their way through Immigration.
I hope he dies.
You do have a point.
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I have never seen a freak show the likes of the DUmp.
How so many can collectively fabricate something out of thin air and then convince themselves it is true is beyond me.
That's not "thin air" from which they're extracting their material, sir. :pokingpoop:
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They have already said that the DR that saw him was not given that tidbit of info about Africa. Ebola presents itself like influenza :thatsright:
Symptoms show up 2 to 21 days after infection and usually include:
High fever.
Headache.
Joint and muscle aches.
Sore throat.
Weakness.
Stomach pain.
Lack of appetite.
I must have Ebola because I have all those symptoms but lack of appetite.....and I thought it was just old age.
Heck... I must get Ebola on a regular basis too cause I have those symptoms the next day, minus the fever, every time I make the trip to Morgantown for a WVU football game. Especially the headache and lack of appetite. :lmao:
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Saw this on Drudge Report headline.
(http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608031553965526461&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0)
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John Wiley Price Suggests Race A Factor In Dallas Ebola Case
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/07/john-wiley-price-suggests-race-a-factor-in-dallas-ebola-case/
DALLAS (CBS 11 NEWS) – Dallas County Commissioner John Wiley Price was blunt. He said Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital originally sent Thomas Duncan home three days before ‎he was diagnosed with Ebola because he’s African-American and uninsured.
“It is historical what has happened in this community,†Price said. “If a person who looks like me shows up without any insurance, they don’t get the same treatment.â€
CBS 11 News asked the hospital if it had a response to Mr. Price’s statement and comments made in Dallas earlier Tuesday by Civil Rights leader Rev. Jesse Jackson claiming that Duncan may have initially been medically mishandled by Texas Health Presbyterian.
That is the stupidest thing I have heard. Texas Health Presbyterian should of taken him immediately as he was in West Africa and had fever and headaches.
Yet he contradicts himself.
John Wiley Price, county health director emphatically defend Dallas’ response to Ebola
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/dallas-county-commissioner-health-department-director-emphatically-defend-response-to-ebola.html/
Dallas County Commissioner John Wiley Price questioned the motivation of the hospital that is treating Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan, suggesting that race and income may have been a factor in him not being diagnosed earlier.
Two days before he was admitted and placed in isolation, Duncan was treated and released by Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital. He had a slight fever at the time and was complaining about abdominal pain. He reportedly told a nurse that he had been in Africa, but was not tested for Ebola. Instead, he was given antibiotics and released.
Price, who is black, called the reasons for that mistake an “elephant in the room.â€
“We know why what happened at Presbyterian happened,†he said. “It is historical what has happened in this community. If a person who looks like me shows up without insurance, they don’t get the same treatment.â€
Presbyterian officials haven’t given a full explanation for Duncan’s release. They initially mentioned a “flaw†in electronic health records causing doctors to miss a nurse’s note that Duncan had been to Africa. They later backtracked from that claim, saying there was no flaw.
Price made his comment as part of an emphatic defense of the county health department’s efforts. During Tuesday’s Commissioners Court meeting, Price said the department has “done everything they are supposed to do.â€
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He is the same idiot that said the term "black holes" was offensive. He seems to favor bow ties and looks like an NOI member in some of his pictures.
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**** you assholes. I have been in Baylor Dallas ER many times. Majority of patients are black. No one is turned away. You people suck ass.
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Duncan has died this morning.
I'm sure the DUmp is screaming racism over his death now.
So far, the few (white) victims that were flown here from Africa have survived.
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Wonder if they checked Duncan for the AIDS virus? His immune system could have already been weakened.
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Duncan has died this morning.
I'm sure the DUmp is screaming racism over his death now.
So far, the few (white) victims that were flown here from Africa have survived.
We know them better then they know themselves.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025637884
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:08 PM
Hutzpa (11,015 posts)
They '****ing' let him die to make a point.
I have nothing else but disdain to those that allowed this to happen.
Response to Hutzpa (Original post)
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:31 PM
notadmblnd (18,762 posts)
29. I agree
And the message that was sent is: Don't come here from West Africa to get life saving treatment if you are a person of color with no insurance.
Response to notadmblnd (Reply #29)
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:33 PM
B2G (3,608 posts)
32. Which is why they cared for him for 10 days
putting every healthcare worker at risk, only to let him die.
I can't believe some people.
Response to B2G (Reply #32)
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:37 PM
notadmblnd (18,762 posts)
39. So far all the white people who have traveled to this country and been treated are alive
6 people in total. None as far as I know were turned away. Again 4 white survivors one dead black man. One white man currently being treated. Wanna bet on whether he lives or dies? My money is on his survival.
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So, Ebola is racist. Who knew?
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So, Ebola is racist. Who knew?
If it does turn out that Ebola has a racial bias, all the internets will end up set fire because of DUmmy rage and 'Ebola Troofers' (I claim copyright of this new phrase !!!11!!! ) worldwide.
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Did it ever occur to these morons that health care officials in the US just were not expecting a case and that was not their first assumption that it was this. Hell maybe the nurse and doctor were Obumbler voters and believed him when he said it would never come here and took it seriously. What a bunch of dumbasses. Thank God for dreamer tatum in that thread. Idiots!
As an aside, how many of them would shut their doors on a bleeding black person with Ebola if they came to their door. Hypocrites. They are going to keep riding this dead horse until there isn't a damn person left. Don't know when to ever direct their efforts into something useful liking puting the screws to their golden boy to shut down air travel temporarily from those countries.
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Wonder if they checked Duncan for the AIDS virus? His immune system could have already been weakened.
There is that and I have wondered if they have given consideration that in certain genetic makeup the disease progression may be more severe? I know the two Spanish priests died and I think one was given ZMapp too, but they were both men in there mid to late 70's so thier immune systems effectiveness to begin with is questionable.
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**** you assholes. I have been in Baylor Dallas ER many times. Majority of patients are black. No one is turned away. You people suck ass.
A man died horribly.
More people will die horribly.
Proglodytes wonder how they can squeeze out more racial hatred to keep their voting blocs locked in.
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Sickle cell wasn't enough for conservatives. They had to enlist the ebola virus.
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Sickle cell wasn't enough for conservatives. They had to enlist the ebola virus.
Lord Rove was getting bored with Midichlorians. :-)
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Now the airplane cleaners in New York are going on strike over fears of getting ebola. I wonder if Sharpton will show up.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/09/plane-cleaners-strike-at-new-york-airport-terminal-over-ebola-fears/
The workers, who are seeking to unionize, say they're sometimes exposed to blood and vomit but are not equipped with appropriate protective gear.
They say the number of cabin cleaners per job has been reduced by up to half. They also say the time to clean entire planes has been cut from 45 minutes to as little as 5 minutes.
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Response to B2G (Reply #32)
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:37 PM
notadmblnd (18,762 posts)
39. So far all the white people who have traveled to this country and been treated are alive
6 people in total. None as far as I know were turned away. Again 4 white survivors one dead black man. One white man currently being treated. Wanna bet on whether he lives or dies? My money is on his survival.
Did he tell the nurse when he came the first time that he handled an Ebola victim the days before getting sick?
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Isn't this owebuma's fault. He claimed he was going to "heal the planet".
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Even better, President Obama is on the case! He reportedly spent 40 seconds on the phone discussing the matter with his Health and Human Services Secretary. What a workaholic!
After the call, he left the White House to play some golf. Because, really, there’s no need to freak out or anything.
http://twitchy.com/2014/10/12/priorities-duffer-in-chief-plays-200th-round-of-golf-as-ebola-spreads/
After handling the ebola situation with his HHS secretary today, Barry achieved a career milestone: His 200th round of golf as president.
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Did he tell the nurse when he came the first time that he handled an Ebola victim the days before getting sick?
I believe Ebola originated in a pot of NJCher's stew.
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Did he tell the nurse when he came the first time that he handled an Ebola victim the days before getting sick?
The answer is NO!
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Obama says it's Arnold Palmers fault. If Arnold Palmer hadn't invented golf, he would have had his laser like focus focused on this.
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i6cLD1CtVoQ/VAcjpLo3RZI/AAAAAAAACW8/S1QesaopKW0/s1600/obama,%2BISIS,%2Bgolf.jpg)
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Liberal logic 102... There are no such things as terrorists.
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Response to B2G (Reply #32)
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 01:37 PM
notadmblnd (18,762 posts)
39. So far all the white people who have traveled to this country and been treated are alive
6 people in total. None as far as I know were turned away. Again 4 white survivors one dead black man. One white man currently being treated. Wanna bet on whether he lives or dies? My money is on his survival.
I guess the idiot forgot the two dead Spanish priests and I don't know the ethnicity of the UN individual, but they were treated in Germany so potential caucasian there as well.
First of all, morons, the 'black man' didn't share the blood type of the WHITE man who has proven he would willingly and without issue donate blood products to assist in this. You give him a blood type not his own and he's dead anyway dumbasses. I don't need to be a medical professional to know that. Secondly, I have no problem with someone who KNOWINGLY lies with a dangerous disease that now infects others and continues the lie and delays treatment options for him being treated secondary to those he put at risk. No problem at all.
**** you assholes. This is about morals and ethics and absolutely the most ethical should receive the highest priority. I know those are who I want left if scores of people die. That said, it is a highly ETHICAL WHITE MAN(your public enemy #1) and a Christian to boot(another hated group of yours) who is stopping his traveling just to give blood if the blood type is a match to him. Can you imagine the sacrifice? First to help those Black people you claim to love so much in Africa and now to constantly stop his life to save whoever he can with his own damn life force.
Again, **** you DU--you are such hateful pieces of shit.
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I guess the idiot forgot the two dead Spanish priests and I don't know the ethnicity of the UN individual, but they were treated in Germany so potential caucasian there as well.
First of all, morons, the 'black man' didn't share the blood type of the WHITE man who has proven he would willingly and without issue donate blood products to assist in this. You give him a blood type not his own and he's dead anyway dumbasses. I don't need to be a medical professional to know that. Secondly, I have no problem with someone who KNOWINGLY lies with a dangerous disease that now infects others and continues the lie and delays treatment options for him being treated secondary to those he put at risk. No problem at all.
**** you assholes. This is about morals and ethics and absolutely the most ethical should receive the highest priority. I know those are who I want left if scores of people die. That said, it is a highly ETHICAL WHITE MAN(your public enemy #1) and a Christian to boot(another hated group of yours) who is stopping his traveling just to give blood if the blood type is a match to him. Can you imagine the sacrifice? First to help those Black people you claim to love so much in Africa and now to constantly stop his life to save whoever he can with his own damn life force.
Again, **** you DU--you are such hateful pieces of shit.
Now, jtyangel, you know the only white hispanics live in this country!
Cindie
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Now, jtyangel, you know the only white hispanics live in this country!
Cindie
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Well they were actual Spaniards which I'm guessing the collective retards in that hornet's nest likely don't understand that Spaniards are Europeans and considered Caucasian there. Of course, their big special interest group Hispanic is not really a race anyway--it's a culmination of ethnicities that betray their conquistador heritage by their shared, although varied, common language ie Spanish. Funny how Americans liberals have no problem with 'Hispanics' speaking Spanish. That was the language of the Caucasian oppressors to their south in their world yet they fling arms around it like its indigenous to the Mayan and Inca tribes that inhabited those southlands long before the Conquistadors moved in;-)
I digress...Anyone wondering what the lib line would have been if this was a disease that say originated in Poland and infected a black nurse? Never mind..I'm sure we all know we'd be hearing nonstop about the uncaring, racist Poles who brought disease to the black man.
And for the lurking retards who I know are looking, if this bothers you, then take a look at the mirror and question why you think like this. Why is it any reasonable person can scrape the bottom of your empty skulls and figure out exactly your next talking point? Not to mention call you on your every last inconsistency...Ridiculous!
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When is Moochelle's next African vacation?
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When is Moochelle's next African vacation?
Hopefully soon, to Monrovia . . . :whistling: