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Title: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: Revolution on September 20, 2014, 01:57:11 AM
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Star Member busterbrown (3,666 posts)

I think if they were protecting a White President they would have been a lot
   
more vigilant.. I’m sorry, but thats the way I feel..Oh yea. I know that several of the agents are Black, but you know what, I’m still pissed!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025561790 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025561790)

Because I react emotionally to everything in the political world I see!!!!!!!!!!!! I also make hairbrained, idiotic accusations based on the thought process I have been programmed with via HuffPo, MSNBC, etc. Stopping, thinking? That's for....smart people.

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busterbrown (3,666 posts)

12. There have been numerous threats against the President probably thousands..
 
With that in mind.. How the hell could this have happened..

Shit Happens.

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Star Member Nye Bevan (17,029 posts)

3. The Secret Service are racists, and because of that they are purposefully lax in protecting Obama?
 
That's quite an accusation.

I for one, am shocked. :shocked:

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busterbrown (3,666 posts)

7. Sorry.....
 
But thats the way I feel.. I trust very few who are in that line of work.
They are a couple of steps above cops.. And Cops certainly not to be trusted.. And of course not all..but yet...

1. Don't apologize for you idiocy. Own it.

2. Primitive cop hater hates cops.

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tritsofme (10,856 posts)

5. Threads like this make DU look ridiculous.

Lol. Too true.

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Star Member busterbrown (3,666 posts)

9. Ridiculous to who?
 
The elite liberal population? **** that.. Why can’t we be a little irrational and speak from the heart?

Almost spit my Cola out. Dude, you guys wanna talk about rape culture... You totally violated irrational even for you guys. If irrationality was a woman, you'd be spending a very, very long time in prison, my friend. #mysoginist #WaronWomen #Liberaldouchbaggery #WaronVocabulary

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flvegan (63,509 posts)

6. That's one hefty and unfounded emotional accusation.

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Star Member busterbrown (3,666 posts)

8. Correct!!! But how many times have you heard the other side
 
engage in this type of rhetoric... Well its the way i feel in my heart.. Sorry!!

How is your heart smart enough to beat, and pump blood to the rest of your body??

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AgingAmerican (4,033 posts)

11. The other side
 
...are idiots.

This.

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AgingAmerican (4,033 posts)

10. Utterly rediculous
 
nonsense

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Star Member former9thward (11,602 posts)

14. There are countless threats against any American president.
 
1 in 10 of our Presidents have been killed and others have been shot at. Your post is ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on September 20, 2014, 02:12:34 AM
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Star Member busterbrown (3,666 posts)

8. Correct!!! But how many times have you heard the other side engage in this type of rhetoric... Well its the way i feel in my heart.. Sorry!!


Huh?   Sorry.  Never seen it.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 20, 2014, 07:27:14 AM
All that outrage over a fence jumper that was immediately arrested?  Jeeze, what did that dimbulb expect them to do, use telepathic powers and arrest him before he scaled the fence?
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: USA4ME on September 20, 2014, 08:34:17 AM
This is where "community standards" on both the island and island jr. get in the way of what you need to say to the poster. One of many possible correct responses to a post like this would be "You're too stupid to be alive. Please give us your name and address so we can remedy that problem." But can you say that? No. Which stinks.

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Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: SVPete on September 20, 2014, 10:27:58 AM
The news story, from the LA Times:

White House intruder arrested after entering front doors (http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-white-house-jumper-20140919-story.html)
By CHRISTI PARSONS, RYAN PARKER
latimes.com
9/19/14
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An intruder scaled a White House fence and made it all the way into the building Friday evening before he was caught and wrestled to the ground by security officers, the Secret Service said. President Obama and his family had already left for Camp David when the incident occurred.

Omar J. Gonzalez, 42, of Copperas Cove, Texas, near Ft. Hood, was arrested and charged with unlawful entry to the White House complex. He was taken to George Washington Medical Center after complaining of chest pain during his arrest, according to a late-night statement from the Secret Service.

Gonzalez climbed the fence on the north side of the White House, where protesters frequently gather, and then sprinted the roughly 100 yards to the front door while officers gave chase, according to an agency official. Officers saw that he was empty-handed and so did not release dogs or fire their guns, the official said.
So, yes, this intruder made it all the way to the WH itself  - ~100 yards sprint - before being caught. But Obama and family had left the building. Thus many Secret Service agents who would ordinarily be onsite were accompanying BHO - protecting BHO - rather than at the WH.

So the DU-folk missed a key fact: the Secret Service agents who did not catch this intruder until he reached the WH were not there protecting BHO, because BHO wasn't there to be protected. So, whatever the reasons the intruder reached the WH, racism on the part of Secret Service agents is not a reason.

Facts are such racist things when they expose race-baiters' malice and paranoia.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: SVPete on September 20, 2014, 10:38:28 AM
Further from the article I linked above:

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An official said the agency had considered closing down Pennsylvania Avenue in order to prevent such lapses, but that it had not done so in order to allow people to take pictures and hold demonstrations.

“We could stop it tomorrow,” the agency official said of the perennial problem of fence jumpers. “But that's not reasonable. People should be able to take pictures.”
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“Every day, the Secret Service has to balance security with access,” the official said.
Let's consider a very realistic hypothetical case. What if, in 2005 at the height of LaSheehan's media-hyped fame, Pennsylvania Avenue had been closed, or a perimeter of Secret Service agents had been stationed 10 or 20 yards back from this fence. How much MSM, D, Lib, Prog, and DU hysterical howling over Bush's police state would there have been?!
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: DLR Pyro on September 20, 2014, 10:45:01 AM
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Star Member busterbrown (3,666 posts)

I think if they were protecting a White President they would have been a lot
   
more vigilant.. I’m sorry, but thats the way I feel..Oh yea. I know that several of the agents are Black, but you know what, I’m still pissed!!

so by your logic, the SS detail the day Ronald Reagan was shot was racist since they were not vigilant enough to prevent hinckley from shooting him...


JFK's SS detail was racist that tragic day in Dallas because they allowed oswald to kill him....

****ing morons...
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: SVPete on September 20, 2014, 11:05:23 AM
so by your logic, the SS detail the day Ronald Reagan was shot was racist since they were not vigilant enough to prevent hinckley from shooting him...


JFK's SS detail was racist that tragic day in Dallas because they allowed oswald to kill him....

****ing morons...

Stop making sense! It leaves marks!
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: miskie on September 20, 2014, 11:48:42 AM
I can only suppose this OP is to deflect from the fact that the perp, Omar J Gonzalez, is probably Hispanic. - which we all know is a protected class at DU.

And I'll make a prediction right now - if it is determined he is Hispanic, the reasons for his action will be pinned solidly on the Republicans for not embracing the Democrat's amnesty plan.


To quote Sir William the Pittiful, 'bank it'.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: txradioguy on September 20, 2014, 12:12:47 PM
Had this happened to W...these same DUmmies would have been pissed the guy got stopped.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: HawkHogan on September 20, 2014, 12:54:48 PM
Didn't Dummies complain when the SS used deadly force to stop that woman driving her car into the White House fence?

Consistency is hard.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 20, 2014, 01:28:23 PM
Didn't Dummies complain when the SS used deadly force to stop that woman driving her car into the White House fence?

Yes they raised hell, but the dead intruder was a black woman, a class as protected as spotted owls and snail darters.

The guy today was a white Hispanic, a class well known at the DUmp to be predisposed to murder.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 20, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
So, if something, anything, happens to Obumler, the meme will be the SS LIHOP or MIHOP?
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on September 20, 2014, 01:47:15 PM
Threads like this make DU look ridiculous???  :rofl: :rotf: :lmao: Just par for the course at our favorite nuthouse.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: Karin on September 20, 2014, 02:40:06 PM
And even after his fellow DUmpmonkies ridiculed him, he kept doubling down.  Justifies it by saying the other side does it all the time (huh?) and using lots of exclamation points. 
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: thundley4 on September 20, 2014, 05:40:14 PM
The security breach at the White House occurred in 2008 when the MSM failed to do due diligence and investigate and report the truth about Obama.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: CollectivismMustDie on September 20, 2014, 06:04:13 PM
I can only suppose this OP is to deflect from the fact that the perp, Omar J Gonzalez, is probably Hispanic. - which we all know is a protected class at DU.

And I'll make a prediction right now - if it is determined he is Hispanic, the reasons for his action will be pinned solidly on the Republicans for not embracing the Democrat's amnesty plan.


To quote Sir William the Pittiful, 'bank it'.

They'll go another direction if its a "white hispanic".



CMD
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 20, 2014, 06:43:52 PM
I can only suppose this OP is to deflect from the fact that the perp, Omar J Gonzalez, is probably Hispanic. - which we all know is a protected class at DU.

And I'll make a prediction right now - if it is determined he is Hispanic, the reasons for his action will be pinned solidly on the Republicans for not embracing the Democrat's amnesty plan.


To quote Sir William the Pittiful, 'bank it'.

He could be 'undocumented,' too. :whistling:
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: Chris_ on September 20, 2014, 06:57:05 PM
If only Obama cared about that other fence as much as he does the one around the White House.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: delilahmused on September 21, 2014, 02:39:34 AM
Oh, the fence jumper's name was GONZALES? And he was wrestled to the ground? What a bunch of racists!

Cindie
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: miskie on September 21, 2014, 09:24:32 AM
They'll go another direction if its a "white hispanic".



CMD

Not likely at this point.. If he was of the 'White Hispanic' variety, his picture would be EVERYWHERE. Instead all there is to be found is this one poorly focused cellphone camera shot.

(http://naijatowncrier.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/white-house-evacuated-after-man-jumps-fence.jpg)

The word now is the man was armed with a knife, and his reason for fence jumping was to warn the President about the atmosphere collapsing.

Yes, Omar needed to see the president because the sky is falling...   :rofl:

Its only a matter of time before this is the Republican's fault now. Obviously, the lack of immigration reform -and possibly environmental protection that immigration reform would help provide- drove this poor innocent Hispanic man mad.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: Dori on September 21, 2014, 11:09:48 AM
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1.Andrew Jackson - shot in 1806; survived (died naturally in 1845)

2.Abraham Lincoln - shot and killed in 1865
3.James Garfield - shot and killed in 1881
4.William McKinley - shot and killed in 1901
5.Theodore Roosevelt - shot in 1912; survived
6.John F. Kennedy - shot and killed in 1963
7.Ronald Reagan - shot in 1981; survived (died naturally in 2004)

Ron Kessler, who wrote a book on first family security detail, said that what happened on Fri. has never happened before, where someone actually made it inside the White House.  He said that the FBI is laughing at the secret service, while horrified that this could have happened. 

He also said that agents have told him that it's a miracle that Obama has not been hurt because they are so lax.   
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: SVPete on September 21, 2014, 11:31:21 AM
Ron Kessler, who wrote a book on first family security detail, said that what happened on Fri. has never happened before, where someone actually made it inside the White House.  He said that the FBI is laughing at the secret service, while horrified that this could have happened. 

He also said that agents have told him that it's a miracle that Obama has not been hurt because they are so lax.   

Jackson didn't become President for another 35+ years, and IIRC, TR was out of office in 1912, though he was a third party Presidential candidate that year. That said, Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, JFK, and Reagan were all "white". The Secret Service is made up of fallible human beings, and it sounds like they may not have been as effective/efficient these past several years as they have in the past. BUT as serious as this incident was, the Obamas were out of DC when it happened. The Obamas' security was not breached, and their lives were not the least in danger from this character.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: Dori on September 21, 2014, 11:35:07 AM
the Obamas were out of DC when it happened. The Obamas' security was not breached, and their lives were not the least in danger from this character.

By four minutes. 
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 21, 2014, 12:08:30 PM
By four minutes.
An inch is as good as a mile.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: SVPete on September 21, 2014, 12:31:28 PM
By four minutes.

That, actually, might be part of the reason the intruder got as far as he did. The shifting of agents to accompany the Obamas and to cover their departure may have temporarily reduced the staff in the area the intruder entered.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: Chris_ on September 21, 2014, 12:53:53 PM
Ron Kessler, who wrote a book on first family security detail, said that what happened on Fri. has never happened before, where someone actually made it inside the White House.  He said that the FBI is laughing at the secret service, while horrified that this could have happened. 

He also said that agents have told him that it's a miracle that Obama has not been hurt because they are so lax.   
When you've got a shitty boss who doesn't care about his job, morale generally sinks.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: SVPete on September 21, 2014, 01:58:34 PM
When you've got a shitty boss who doesn't care about his job, morale generally sinks.

Not to mention regarding the (metaphorical and literal) boots on the ground as expendable tools.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: Delmar on September 21, 2014, 02:01:51 PM
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Response to busterbrown (Original post)Sat Sep 20, 2014, 07:09 AM
DustyJoe (262 posts)
25. Fences

So Mr Gonzoles jumped the fence.
He got caught.

His defense

Amnesty por favor ? I thought this was the border fence.

The Sep 11th fence jumper was immediately caught.

Gonzoles was reported to have jumped the fence and sprinted across the lawn. They could or should have shot him mid run I guess. They evacuated the place abd caught him.

Just can't see the racist aspect in this. Maybe time for a much more secure fence.

For all the people blaming the racist Secret Service Security that guards the president might need to know ..

Special agents of the U.S. Secret Service protect the president and his family. But responsibility for securing the White House itself falls to a branch of the service known as the Uniformed Division, consisting of 1,300-plus sworn police officers and technicians.

So who dropped the ball ? 1,300 cops did.

I see what you did there, DustyJoe.  Welcome to DU Mister Low Post Count.

 
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: dutch508 on September 21, 2014, 02:35:56 PM
The DUmp meme will change if the fact he is a combat vet with ptsd is true...
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: Ptarmigan on September 21, 2014, 03:23:19 PM
Secret Service is racist????????????????? Excuse me????????????  :mental: :bs:
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: Zathras on September 21, 2014, 04:03:31 PM
All that outrage over a fence jumper that was immediately arrested?  Jeeze, what did that dimbulb expect them to do, use telepathic powers and arrest him before he scaled the fence?

Of course they do. Remember, the DUmbasses are so stupid, they think the movie Minority Report was a documentary.
Title: Re: Proglodyte Thinks Secret Service is Racist
Post by: thundley4 on September 21, 2014, 10:25:50 PM
I don't see what the problem is?  The Secret Service is doing their job just like Obama wants the Border Patrol to do theirs.  They're all federal employees, so why shouldn't the same rules of doing their jobs apply?