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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on September 11, 2014, 11:29:35 PM
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PC military? Army worried too many white men lead combat units
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/11/army-concerned-with-number-of-white-men-leading-co/
U.S. Army sociologists are worried that a lack of black officers leading its combat troops will have detrimental effect on minorities and lead to fewer black officers in top leadership posts.
“The issue exists. The leadership is aware of it,†Brig. Gen. Ronald Lewis toldUSA Today on Thursday. “The leadership does have an action plan in place. And it’s complicated.â€
Army is worried that it is led mainly by Whites???????? A PC military is not good.
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But I thought liberals wanted the armed services to reflect the population as a whole. :p
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Oh dear god, really people? We are a VOLUNTEER army. When I was a recruiter, most of the black students and applicants I would talk to were not interested in the army. They felt it was not their gig, and occasionally I'd encounter one that said he didn't want to fight 'the white man's war'. Which is fine, you don't have to.
My point is, they are not there because they do not want to be, period. They don't have to join, no one is forcing them to. And when they do join, they seem to stay away from the combat MOS's in my experience. Not a bad thing, just my observation.
That is what happens when you have an all-volunteer force. When I was a platoon sergeant in an infantry company, we had a black first sergeant. He was one of the only black men in the company and he had made it there based off merit, not some quota.
My current boss in a staff section is a black infantry branch major. Once again, not many of those because not a lot of black men want to do that.
Now logistics and commo MOS's on brigade staff, I'm hard pressed to find a white senior NCO or warrant. Does that mean we need to have more whites in those positions?
To any senior officers reading this: Stop messing with something that isn't broke. All this fricking social engineering has gotten us away from our primary purpose as an army, which is to fight and win the nation's wars, PERIOD. :banghead:
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PC military? Army worried too many white men lead combat units
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/11/army-concerned-with-number-of-white-men-leading-co/
Army is worried that it is led mainly by Whites???????? A PC military is not good.
Welcome to my world.
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We've been down this road before. From some time in the 70s until the late 80s, officer promotion boards were told to move minorities (By which they mostly meant Black) and women who were just below the order-of-merit cut line to just above it, and bump down below it any White males who were had been just above that cut line to make up for it.
They had another name for it, but it was really affirmative action at its worst. They eventually got sued over this practice in a class action and had to stop it. Since the boards might go fairly deep into the passed-over to find enough Black and female officers to bump upward, over time it led to a disproportionate number of Blacks and women who were marginal officers, and didn't do anything positive to raise the esteem in which either one was held by the rest of the officer corps.
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We've been down this road before. From some time in the 70s until the late 80s, officer promotion boards were told to move minorities (By which they mostly meant Black) and women who were just below the order-of-merit cut line to just above it, and bump down below it any White males who were had been just above that cut line to make up for it.
They had another name for it, but it was really affirmative action at its worst. They eventually got sued over this practice in a class action and had to stop it. Since the boards might go fairly deep into the passed-over to find enough Black and female officers to bump upward, over time it led to a disproportionate number of Blacks and women who were marginal officers, and didn't do anything positive to raise the esteem in which either one was held by the rest of the officer corps.
I served with a black captain who was 'below the zone' when he got his gold oak leaf. The other black officers in the squadron couldn't figure out how he had made major. :confused: Let's just say . . . he had his moments. :whistling:
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Oh my Lord, a 1969 joke comes up here, dark humor.
Young white man just out of School sent to Nam and given a division of black troupes to head of into the jungle. New guys, drafted and brand new as he was.
2 days later he comes back alone, shocked and wounded. when asked what happened to his men, all he could say as when fired on he yelled for the men to GET DOWN , everyone one stood up an stated dancing.
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Oh my Lord, a 1969 joke comes up here, dark humor.
Young white man just out of School sent to Nam and given a division of black troupes to head of into the jungle. New guys, drafted and brand new as he was.
2 days later he comes back alone, shocked and wounded. when asked what happened to his men, all he could say as when fired on he yelled for the men to GET DOWN , everyone one stood up an stated dancing.
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:racist:
Not raciest back then, nor even today when we have to consider the mixture of cultures that were thrown together because of the Daft.
No culture education for the youth that came out of different ways of life around the country against their will, This joke was about young leaders that had no idea of how anyone different from themselves lived.
Near the end, the boot camps for the draftees ran into some extreme problems with the drafted men an boys that belonged to different gangs in the city's. How to keep them apart and keep them from killing each other before they learned to fight and kill a strange enemy in a very strange Country.
I remember my father who served on ASR's as a hard hat rescue diver, small boat that just had one Galley. He when home would cook Pork chops and call them Jewish Chicken. Reason was with a small crew if there was a crew member that was Jewish they themselves called the meal Jewish Chicken in order to eat around their faith.
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They DO realize it's a volunteer military right? As in if you want a combat mos, you can request for one at the recruiting station.
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Okay, I'm fine with this, as long as they are all like Allen West.
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Well, since I've been led down the racist track... :-)...when the ARMY starts training recruits for drive-by shooting they should have plenty of officer leaders available.
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