WilliamPitt (57,142 posts)
Afraid of ISIS?
A wee public service announcement for those who are feeling The Fear because some intelligence reports suggest ISIS is a direct threat to this country within our borders:
There is always intelligence that claims something here or there is a direct, dire threat. Intelligence organizations prepare three versions of these reports: Worst Case, Best Case and Middle Case. Depending on what they want to happen, they tailor the delivery and wording of their reports. That is old, old, old fact, and always political...with a dash of make-war-pay-my-friends thrown in for good measure all too often.
Case in point: There were intelligence reports that said Iraq had:
* 26,000 liters of anthrax
* 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin
* 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX gas
* Mobile biological weapons labs
* Chemical-bomb drones that could strike the US mainland
* Uranium from Niger for use in a "robust" nuclear weapons program
* Connections to al-Qaeda that led directly to the attacks of September 11
How'd that work out?
samsingh (11,677 posts)
3. there are some major 'buts'
Iraq was not executing tens of thousands of people. they were not actively recruiting for more members.
watching isis is like watching Al Qaeda forming in afganistan.
WilliamPitt (57,142 posts)
4. Tens of thousands?
Rilly?
Nye Bevan (16,783 posts)
32. I expect them to strike within 24 business hours.
Bank it.
Nuclear Unicorn (12,151 posts)
33. * "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" -- Presidential Daily Briefing. August 8, 2001
WilliamPitt (57,142 posts)
34. Using 9/11 to gin up fear and paranoia.
Original.
Nuclear Unicorn (12,151 posts)
46. For someone who supposedly makes his living through writing and analysis
you aren't very good at it. Snark is not a counter-argument; it's a pouter's concession. If you play the snide, snarky rhetoric game with me I'll hand it back to you pound for pound, wrapped with ribbons and a bow.
The PDBs that warned Bush of UBL's designs are a matter of fact that went unheeded and became a national tragedy that has served as the pretext of a decade and a half of war with no end in sight. The threat was real. Yet, here you are arguing that the warnings may as well have been ignored because the intelligence services are not to be trusted. Which is it? When are they to be trusted and when are they to be distrusted?
If, Heaven forbid, ISIS is able to succeed in an attack against the US it will be Obama's head on a pike, not yours. You're safe, as you always have been. You won't even be the one on the ground in Iraq and/or Syria. You'll be typing away about how stupid the American people are for turning the Democrats out of office for allowing a second 9/11 with nary a mention that you all but begged Obama to ignore the warnings.
Dreamer Tatum (8,669 posts)
56. It is what I call the Bullshitter's Privilege
Not being accountable for anything. If there isn't an attack, it's "Toldja So!" and if there IS one, it'll be redirection (if it happens under a (D) POTUS) and "Was this LIHOP or MIHOP?" in the case of an (R) POTUS.
In either scenario, to paraphase and abuse Orwell, Will Pitt will sleep well at night, knowing his Bullshitter's Privilege will be protected by men ready to do violence on his behalf.
Let's just pray that a piece of shit used car salesman is up to the task if an attack happens anytime soon.
msanthrope (26,191 posts)
48. I am quite interested in your reply to post #46. Still waiting. nt
Pittstain getting seriously slapped there! :bitchslap:
What if we do get a serious attack from ISIS? I wonder what WillPitt will write then?
How good is he at eating crow?
Nye Bevan (16,783 posts)
32. I expect them to strike within 24 business hours.
Bank it.
Lord knows he's had enough experience at doing just that . . . :whistling:
Nye Bevan (16,783 posts)
32. I expect them to strike within 24 business hours.
Bank it.
Nye Bevan (16,783 posts)
32. I expect them to strike within 24 business hours.
Bank it.
Nuclear Unicorn (12,151 posts)
46. For someone who supposedly makes his living through writing and analysis
you aren't very good at it.
If, Heaven forbid, ISIS is able to succeed in an attack against the US it will be Obama's head on a pike, not yours. You're safe, as you always have been. You won't even be the one on the ground in Iraq and/or Syria. You'll be typing away about how stupid the American people are for turning the Democrats out of office for allowing a second 9/11 with nary a mention that you all but begged Obama to ignore the warnings.
Dreamer Tatum (8,669 posts)
56. It is what I call the Bullshitter's Privilege
Not being accountable for anything. If there isn't an attack, it's "Toldja So!" and if there IS one, it'll be redirection (if it happens under a (D) POTUS) and "Was this LIHOP or MIHOP?" in the case of an (R) POTUS.
In either scenario, to paraphase and abuse Orwell, Will Pitt will sleep well at night, knowing his Bullshitter's Privilege will be protected by men ready to do violence on his behalf.
Let's just pray that a piece of shit used car salesman is up to the task if an attack happens anytime soon.
What if we do get a serious attack from ISIS? I wonder what WillPitt will write then?
How good is he at eating crow?
For someone who supposedly makes his living
The DUmmies know as well as we do that Pitt's "journalism" is as lucrative as nadin's.
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Every crust of bread on his table, for his entire adult life, has come from the dwindling stash in DUmmy Jane Pitt's pocket.
The DUmmies know as well as we do that Pitt's "journalism" is as lucrative as nadin's.
Every crust of bread on his table, for his entire adult life, has come from the dwindling stash in DUmmy Jane Pitt's pocket.
Loved Nye Bevan's nutshot!
:rotf:
PLEASE TELL ME, where is it said that hate and rage are NOT survival methods.If they odo build a statue of Barry in some God forsaken liberal hellhole, at least the peguins bave enough taste not to crap on it.
Show me any society that can survive -----except for the French in WW2 who surrendered off the bat to the enemy- [ I am not counting the underground] that can not 70 years later lift their heads high with pride for fighting full boar out for their Country and family's future and rights.
Obama will become , if he gives a damn, our wimp president, I do not think we will have statues of Obama in town squares sword in hand astride a rearing horse off to do or die for his country.
How are his children going to look at him in the future, thank heavens he has no male children to emulate him.
Hate is a strong emotion, when thousands of people have to run for their lives from horror, this may boost their survival instincts.
Here we have the NEW Black Panthers, most converts to Islam ----I wonder how they feel about living under Shire law. How do their Christian family's feel about the restrictions placed on their mothers, sisters and daughters ?
Gays and lesbos now what to do, public beheadings during half time at the foot ball games ? TV ratings will go through the roof.
Hate and preparing to defend ones self is necessary when the pack of hungry wolves show up at the door.
Not in my life time but it will come and better to fight then calmly wait for the ax to you and your kids.
Animals will fight to defend their young--------Humans will kill them before birth or after birth dump them in a garbage can. These are the people that need to be sent over seas to see what life is all about over there.
Wandering about, flight of ideas, but in this crazy world, life sure has changed in such a short
time.
Nye Bevan (16,783 posts)
32. I expect them to strike within 24 business hours.
Bank it.
Whoa, any more bitch slaps like that and Pittstain will have to seek shelter with the KKKlams. :-)
He's a biological male...they'd never open up and let him in.
:rimshot:
Whoa, any more bitch slaps like that and Pittstain will have to seek shelter with the KKKlams. :-)
What's his story? Has he ever worked or has he always been supported by the women in his life?He's always been supported by his mother from her dwindling inheritance and now by his tattooed bride, who's a retail clerk.
Though the accusations were never brought to legal ends, I fear that they carry the effect of multiple felony convictions. I believe that should I ever apply for a job that requires a thorough background check, run for public office, or make an enemy of any person, these rumors will spring out of my history, and because they are believed by so many people and I have no means to disprove them, be taken as fact. This won’t ever go away, no matter how old I live to be. It will follow me all the way to my grave.
I’m in a different town now, but I remain surrounded by people involved in both incidents. At any time, should I be recognized publicly, or should someone have a grudge against me, some of the very accusers themselves can step forward and instantly destroy my career prospects, social relationships, and most other aspects of my life beyond hope of repair.