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Title: Another Ferguson issue...
Post by: dutch508 on August 27, 2014, 10:29:30 AM
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sadoldgirl (377 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025446531

There is an important issue popping up re Ferguson case

A town nearby had its police department "dissolved", because it cause too much trouble for the black community. That is where Wilson came from, as far as I understand.
This RAISES the question: If an officer is layed off or fired , let's say from LADP, can he then just go and join departments in Phoenix or Kansas City?
If so, don't the so called "bad apples" just rotate? And what happened to the rest of that "dissolved" PD? Have they joined other departments in Missouri?

Of course the DUmpmonkie misses the point. The Police were too much trouble for the black community? How does that work exactly? Too many of the fine upstanding Christian lads get arrested and the city council dissolves the Police Department? Wouldn't that mean the County Sheriff now patrols the area?

However- it was reported that Wilson had a spotless record. Should he be black-listed just because he is white?

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VanGoghRocks (517 posts)
19. Um, slight clarification, the Jennings PD was dissolved due to corruption AND excessive force\police brutality problems (although, AFAIK, Wilson himself was never accused of either corruption or brutality while at Jennings). Don't have links for this, but I'm 99.9% certain I read this in either the NY Times, Washington Post or some other mainstream national source (and not local media).

Of course you don't have links to it. I would be surprised if the PD in Jennings was forced out by a corrupt city council wanting to pocket the money from shutting down the PD. Seems like no one was brought up on charges from this corrupt PD... hmm...

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Lurks Often (2,866 posts)
9. The town disbanded the police department due to corruption

however Wilson, the police chief and most of the rest of the officers were never charged with anything, IIRC only one of the Jennings PD Lieutenants was ever charged with a crime and many of the Jennings PD were hired by the St. Louis County Sheriff's Department.

So Wilson and the rest of the Jennings Police were not fired, but laid off. So unless you have some sort of actual proof that Wilson and the other officers hired by St Louis County Sheriff's department were ever charged (much less convicted) or reprimanded for corruption, you can take your broad brush attack somewhere else.

I would really like to know more about this 'corruption' charges by the city council. Something is fishy.

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Crabby Appleton (4,662 posts)
17. Disbanded due to a vote of the city council which is not a criminal indictment.

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IdaBriggs (7,902 posts)
21. This may have escaped your notice, but not all criminals get indicted.

That only proves "insufficient evidence to convict" - not innocence. Sometimes they just lose their jobs because (why did the town council disband them again? Oh yes!) of CORRUPTION.

Guess who DID NOT get rehired? That would be the guy who shot the unarmed teenager....

So, we have a guy who was laid off or fired or released-from-service (call it what you want - "disbanded due to corruption" is what the public minutes say in the city council meeting) because his team was corrupt, who wasn't one of the "good ones" who was rehired....reality.


Reading the links I find alot of talk about salary and payments for overtime disagreements. So, this really comes down to the City Council not wanting to pay the Department money. As a cop I can tell you that is an ongoing problem in many cities. Our small department is funded badly by the city who refuses to hire two more officers and them bitches because we have so much overtime. Last month I had 100 hours of overtime in addition to my scheduled hours. They bitch but won't spend the money for more officers and better equipment. Is this the same that happened here? Who knows. But I don't trust the media to report shit correctly.

Title: Re: Another Ferguson issue...
Post by: Carl on August 27, 2014, 12:00:47 PM
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     IdaBriggs (7,902 posts)
    21. This may have escaped your notice, but not all criminals get indicted.

    That only proves "insufficient evidence to convict" - not innocence. Sometimes they just lose their jobs because (why did the town council disband them again? Oh yes!) of CORRUPTION.

    Guess who DID NOT get rehired? That would be the guy who shot the unarmed teenager....

    So, we have a guy who was laid off or fired or released-from-service (call it what you want - "disbanded due to corruption" is what the public minutes say in the city council meeting) because his team was corrupt, who wasn't one of the "good ones" who was rehired....reality.


Stupid like you should be a crime.
Title: Re: Another Ferguson issue...
Post by: lastparker on August 27, 2014, 12:25:34 PM
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IdaBriggs (7,902 posts)
21. That only proves "insufficient evidence to convict" - not innocence.

Does that apply to this guy too, Ida?

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Title: Re: Another Ferguson issue...
Post by: Wineslob on August 27, 2014, 01:16:01 PM
Damn, teh stupid is strong. It does not occur to the DUmmie that the UNION may have made it un-affordable.
Title: Re: Another Ferguson issue...
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 27, 2014, 04:22:47 PM
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A town nearby had its police department "dissolved", because it cause too much trouble for the black community.

Well, not dissolved, exactly. Privatized.
The DUmp should love it.
http://nationalreport.net/small-florida-town-signs-police-privatization-deal-walmart/

(Great stories are ignored by the MSM!)