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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on August 18, 2014, 06:37:09 PM
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kiva (3,343 posts) http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10025402165
Why do we take the bait?
It doesn't matter if Michael Brown stole cigarillos or not. It doesn't matter if it was shoplifting or robbery. It doesn't matter if he grabbed the clerk by his shirt or this throat.
What matters is that AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN.
We liberals suck at staying on message, mostly because we see shades of gray where conservatives see black and white. Our message should be that AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN.
If anyone wants to talk about theft, say AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN.
If someone wants to talk about strong armed robbery, say AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN.
Do not argue about whether or not Michael Brown was a wonderful young man, a 'gentle giant', an aspiring college student because this is taking their bait. When someone says "Michael Brown", say AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN.
The truth doesn't matter. Not to the DUmpmonkiez. Not to teh leftists. Not to the Democratic Party. Not to the President. All that matters is racial divide to push up votes in November's election.
Michigander_Life (506 posts)
4. That won't be the police story
And it won't be what the jury hears.
They'll hear all about how Wilson was trying to arrest Brown after a strong-armed robbery and Brown attacked Wilson. They'll hear that Brown beat Wilson in the face and tried to take his gun. They'll hear that Wilson was in fear for his life and started shooting. They'll hear that Brown attacked Wilson again and Wilson had no choice but to kill him. They'll hear Brown had drugs in his system. They'll hear about how huge Brown was.
Mark my words, this will NOT be an easy case. We are in for a year or more of heartache once Wilson is finally charged with the murder he committed.
This will be Trayvon part 2.
cstanleytech (6,694 posts)
68. Anyone with half a brain though should realize that excuse doest fly considering how many times the kid was shoot.
Once or two ok it "might" be a legit argument of self defense but 6 times?
What I am thinking is it probably wast racial but it was either the cop got pissed at the kid and opened fire or they did get into a small fight and the cop panicked.
But hey I could even be wrong about all that as I wasnt there so I cant say for certain what happened all I can do is offer my opinion as insignificant as it is.
Curmudgeoness (14,618 posts)
18. But that isn't the point. The point is, whenever you hear anything about this, you remind them that THE POLICE SHOT DOWN AN UNARMED MAN. You may be right. You probably are right is history is any indicator. But the point is....don't buy into the right wing arguments, don't fall into a trap of arguing the virtues of Brown, just keep it on target. There was NO EXCUSE.
Star Member ReRe (6,835 posts)
29. Seriously!
"Model cop," my ass. If he was a "Model Cop," he damn sure wouldn't have killed that kid. Something was bugging him. Come upon two kids walking in an empty side street and explodes? Give me a break. If he had a swollen head, he got it somewhere else. Where was "Model cop" just before he came upon those boys? The Chief said he had been on an "ambulance run." You see?
This all needs to be investigated, starting last Saturday.
You See?!?
It is either Officer Wilson was just driving down the road and saw two black guys walking down the middle of it and snapped. Officer Wilson jumped out of the car and tried to pull Brown into the car. When brown got away Officer Wilson chased after him shooting wildly hitting Brown six times in the front as he tried to surrender then unloaded his gun into Brown as he lay in the street! (none of which matches the Autopsy report)
OR
Brown, after robbing a store being high on drugs is told by a cop get out of the street- Attacks the cop tries to get the cop's gun and flees when a shot goes off. The cops gives chase and Brown turns to attack the cop again. The cop fires striking Brown 6 times. (All supported by the Autopsy)
Which makes more sense?
Ms. Toad (11,453 posts)
32. Because we ALWAYS let them define the rules. We need to stop.
The attempts to counter what is very clearly bad behavior by Brown (initially the "it isn't really Brown on the tapes" and today's "It was only an ID dispute - not a theft") only plays into their meme that some people are more worthy than others. We need to tell them that their meme is wrong.
All people are worthy. No one is perfect. Imperfections do not justify shooting an unarmed teen. (Or rape of a prostitute, or "seductively" dressed woman - or whatever victim blaming crap they always come up with.)
Instead of digging deeper holes trying to play by the rules they have set out, we need to start declaring the rules ourselves.
The rules? The truth.
onecaliberal (533 posts)
40. If it had been Michael brown who shot the cop we wouldn't be talking about all the incidences of brutality the cop committed. Michael brown wouldn't have been taken into custody not allowed to go home, gather his family and flee the city.
The only thing I want to know is why the cop shot the unarmed man 8 times, at least 2 of them in the back. Where I come from that is not only murder, it's execution.
If it was true. Which it isn't. So it's not.
certainot (2,638 posts)
63. liberals are up against a much more superior messaging machine, aside from the grey vs black white.
there are 400 racist talk radio shits on 1200 radio stations rationalizing away from AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN and until we liberals and our organizations stop ignoring and giving those radio stations and their think tank scripted bullshit a free speech free ride this event will unfortunately be as significant for racism and police militarization and brutality as newtown was for gun control.
All liberals need to be eliminated in order to save this nation.
SunSeeker (9,258 posts)
69. Brown was shot to death WITH HIS HANDS UP.
He had bullet holes on the inside of his arm, consistent with Brown walking away or putting his hands up, according to the Brown family autopsy.
And when Brown started to fall from the initial shots, cop Darren Wilson kept firing, which presumably is how Wilson got the fatal shot through the top of the 6 ' 4" Brown's head. Wilson executed an unarmed man from a safe distance. There was no gun powder residue on Brown. It was murder.
Star Member Scootaloo (12,688 posts)
71. because he's black, and Americans fall over themselves to justify killing black people
he stole something! he smoked the MJ! he had bad grades! he sassed his grandma once!
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6 shots....in 2 seconds....the rest of us have had a week to think about it.....Wilson didn't have that much time and he was the one in danger, not the DUmmies..
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kiva (3,343 posts) http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10025402165
Why do we take the bait?
It doesn't matter if Michael Brown stole cigarillos or not. It doesn't matter if it was shoplifting or robbery. It doesn't matter if he grabbed the clerk by his shirt or this throat.
What matters is that AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN.
We liberals suck at staying on message, mostly because we see shades of gray where conservatives see black and white. Our message should be that AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN.
If anyone wants to talk about theft, say AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN.
If someone wants to talk about strong armed robbery, say AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN.
Do not argue about whether or not Michael Brown was a wonderful young man, a 'gentle giant', an aspiring college student because this is taking their bait. When someone says "Michael Brown", say AN UNARMED MAN WAS KILLED BY A POLICEMAN.
Perfect example of the Liberal narrative, for ANY "cause"..
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Do liberals have any basic understanding of how firearms work?
Do they think Officer Wilson had a musket?
That's the only rational explanation why they keep highlighting the fact that he shot Mike Brown six times.
From the autopsy results, it looks like the officer tried to take Brown down with non-lethal means, and when Brown kept charging, the officer then aimed for his head.
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From the autopsy results, it looks like the officer tried to take Brown down with non-lethal means, and when Brown kept charging, the officer then aimed for his head.
Actually, from the autopsy conclusions, I'd say that the officer was doing exactly as he was trained. He put the first two rounds through center mass (arm(s) raised and in that field of fire) and when that didn't put the perp down, he switched aim points to the central nervous system, ceasing fire only when the threat was neutralized.
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Perfect example of the Liberal narrative, for ANY "cause"..
They've come a long way from "Bush Lied, People Died" haven't they?
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This one gets me:
Michigander_Life (506 posts)
4. That won't be the police story
And it won't be what the jury hears.
They'll hear all about how Wilson was trying to arrest Brown after a strong-armed robbery and Brown attacked Wilson. Already acknowledged as not the case They'll hear that Brown beat Wilson in the face and tried to take his gun. Fact They'll hear that Wilson was in fear for his life and started shooting. Fact They'll hear that Brown attacked Wilson again and Wilson had no choice but to kill him. Fact They'll hear Brown had drugs in his system. Fact They'll hear about how huge Brown was. Fact
Mark my words, this will NOT be an easy case. We are in for a year or more of heartache once Wilson is finally charged with the murder he committed.
This will be Trayvon part 2. Which was decided based on the FACTS of the case
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It's almost fun to watch the DUmp assuage their white guilt.
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It's almost fun to watch the DUmp assuage their white guilt.
Lets throw a DUmmie to a 6'4", 300 pound, unarmed, angry, black 'boy' and see how long it takes for him to change his mind about the dangers of unarmed black 'boys' and liberal efforts at gun control.