uponit7771 (20,291 posts)Wait, I thought he was shot in the back? What does that matter when you live in a world of fantasy?
So Far, the autopsy is damning to officer Darren Wilson.. all shots from the front
The autopsy is damning to the officer...
Proves NO DOUBT that the bullets came from the FRONT of brown and not the back
There are only TWO TIMES in the incident that the FPD or \ and witness's say Brown COULD have been facing the officer
1. While near truck
2. While 35 feet away WITH HANDS IN THE AIR
Remember, Mike Browns hands were in the air BEFORE he turned to face the officer...
The shots on MBs right are are consistent with a hands in the air angle unless the bullets fired were magic bullets and just got him at the correct angle.
MBs hands were in the air while being shot by Darren Wilson...
Kept me up for second...
Anyone see a different perspective?
tia
AngryOldDem (9,542 posts)Charging somebody is obviously not a threatening position. Bears charging at you aren't a threat either.
2. No, there is no other perspective or conclusion.
But that still doesn't mean that justice will ultimately be done.
Brown was clearly not in a threatening position.
MohRokTah (3,379 posts)
3. First degree murder.
Definitely. No doubt about it. This is premeditated murder in the first degree.
FarPoint (3,331 posts)lol....no. no you're not.
5. Okay.... I went to Late Breaking News Forum.
Now watching news.....I'm getting with the program.
mythology (1,780 posts)There vil be no facts in zees thread! Mythology is now on the clock. How long until the pizza delivery I wonder?
8. Would those be the same witnesses who said he was shot in the back?
The autopsy, based on what's currently released, doesn't prove anything one way or another as to whether a struggle over the gun ensued. It also doesn't prove how far away Brown was since they didn't have access to his clothing to test that for gun shot residue.
Another reason his hands could have been raised was due to an ongoing struggle over the gun.
Even the medical examiner doesn't think that this autopsy is the final word.
“This one here looks like his head was bent downward,†he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer.â€
He stressed that his information does not assign blame or justify the shooting.
“We need more information; for example, the police should be examining the automobile to see if there is gunshot residue in the police car,†he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?_r=0
BklnDem75 (2,459 posts)
20. Was he charging or was he struggling with the gun?
Charging means distance, struggling means no distance. No bullets in the back only means the witnesses were wrong about Michael actually getting hit by the shots made by Wilson. Michael's reaction to getting shot at would make any reasonable person believe he got hit. Wilson still shot at a fleeing suspect.
Fred Drum (43 posts)Translation: "Hey guys, we really need to get a cohesive narrative here or people won't believe us.
17. i think a shot in the back would be more damning
although, if they do the trajectories and you have bullet(s) going through his arm and into his head
i'd say his hands were up
maced666 (279 posts)speaking of magic bullets.... that autopsy result was clearly incorrect!
26. All from the front? Sorry. Not what witnesses
Reported. Multiple eye witnesses report him shot in back as he was on knees surrendering. Did these people lie?! ALL of them?
maced666 (279 posts)
26. All from the front? Sorry. Not what witnesses
Reported. Multiple eye witnesses report him shot in back as he was on knees surrendering. Did these people lie?! ALL of them?
Apparently so, which is not too surprising since one of them was his co-felon and the rest are hood rats looking to stir up some shit against the police and likely either weren't even there and/or have nice rap sheets themselves.
It's kind of hard to get shot in the arms when your hands are over your head since the cops are going to aim for center of mass, or to keep your head down with your hands raised, though forensic analysis of the wound tracks will tell a lot more when that gets done.
Forensics don't lie. Witnesses and DUmbshits who were never there do.
There are only TWO TIMES in the incident that the FPD or \ and witness's say Brown COULD have been facing the officer
1. While near truck
2. While 35 feet away WITH HANDS IN THE AIR
Beaverhausen (21,140 posts)Self defense never occures to primitives.
61. Pointing a gun at someone and shooting repeatedly is planning
Why else would someone do that?
Rex (45,430 posts)
56. Could it be possible the bullets to the arm spun him around to face the officer
and then the last two shots hit him in the head...as he was facing the officer?
badtoworse (5,193 posts)
65. I don't believe the shots were fired from 35 feet
Given the adrenaline, the fact that Brown was likely moving and that the shots were likely fired over a span of a few seconds, six hits at 35 feet seems unlikely to me. I've never been in that situation, so I can't say from experience, but I believe that Brown had to be a lot closer than that to be hit that many times.
“The sheer number of bullets and the way they were scattered all over his body showed this police officer had a brazen disregard for the very people he was supposed to protect in that community,†Benjamin L. Crump, a lawyer for the Brown family who hired Baden, told the Times. “We want to make sure people understand what this case is about: This case is about a police officer executing a young unarmed man in broad daylight.â€
I listened to some of the autopsy presser.
Presser! nadin's influence is everywhere.
cui bono (11,941 posts)
73. You would believe a witness over an autopsy?
This is the autopsy that the family got done, so that should eliminate any fear of a cover up and witnesses are known to sometimes get some of the facts wrong or to create memories that didn't really happen.
http://www.businessinsider.com/scott-fraser-ted-talk-2012-11
I would say you have to believe the autopsy.
I hope they don't discount Dorian Johnson's account because he said that Brown was shot in the back.
Forensics don't lie. Witnesses do.
So.....this thug, at the age of 18 years, already had fathered three children, probably destined to be on the government dole all their lives.
They are so hell bent on having a race war it is sickening.
Not a one of them gives a rats ass about the perp,they just think it will be the kick start to the undoing of the capitalist world they despise for not serving them all their wishes on a silver platter.
18 and 3 kids ?????? Hell, the feminazis ought to defend office Wilson for practicing birth control and anti-rape procedures.
Our buddyette BainsBane won't dare say it, but this thug looks exactly like the sort of man who's used and abused women, treating them like throwaways, disposables.
But given his race, it's politically incorrect to criticize him, and so our friend won't dare.
maced666 (279 posts)
26. All from the front? Sorry. Not what witnesses
Reported. Multiple eye witnesses report him shot in back as he was on knees surrendering. Did these people lie?! ALL of them?
Are you that Michael Brown had 3 kids? I thought they were just kids in his family that were awarded his scholarships.
The headline I saw about that--I didn't click the link--said "Michael Brown's three children."
Yeah, I'm not sure on this issue. Haven't found information one way or another. I'll see if I can find any more info.
Rex (45,430 posts)
56. Could it be possible the bullets to the arm spun him around to face the officer
and then the last two shots hit him in the head...as he was facing the officer?
Rex (45,430 posts)That's real retarded, sir.
56. Could it be possible the bullets to the arm spun him around to face the officer
and then the last two shots hit him in the head...as he was facing the officer?
So.....this thug, at the age of 18 years, already had fathered three children, probably destined to be on the government dole all their lives.
That's very relevant, betraying the thug had poor impulse control, poor anger management, and a record of doing really stupid, inconsiderate things, causing messes for the rest of us to take care of, clean up.
Damn.
Frank, I still cannot understand why the two men were walking in the middle of the street and when told to walk on the sidewalk by a Police Officer did not just stand aside and do so.Because daze haz rites....and daze willst tell yuz bout dem too.
18 and 3 kids ??????
I like this one! I just think it needs to be fleshed out a bit more.
The bullet struck the angelic little cherubim in the arm and spun him around so fast that he ripped a hole in the space-time continuum. The tear in space-time propelled him into the future where he merged with his future self who went to college and obtained several PhDs. He used his education to cure all mental illness in the world. Unfortunately, the unbalance of the same individual from two different time periods occupying the same body caused his future self to expel his current self backward in time to the scene of the incident. He emerged from the continuum rip facing the officer as the officer fired the last two shots. With his future self wiped from the space-time continuum the DUmmies are stuck being mentally ill ****tards.
You would think the primitives would wait before jumping to conclusions, but then again they wouldn't be primitives would they?
It looks like the primitive narrative is sinking faster than the Duke lacrosse team allegations.
Pretzel Logic simply implies reasoning that can be considered wrong, stupid, invalid or reasoning that does not make sense.
Even when the facts contradict their narrative, they will just scream louder. Just like St. Trayvon de Skittles.
Rumor has it that the officer fired hollow points laced with white privilege at Mike Brown. That might explain why the bullets magically turned.(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/BvPX1U1IMAAPttBjpg-large_zps3dbb20f8.jpeg) (http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/Delmar59/media/BvPX1U1IMAAPttBjpg-large_zps3dbb20f8.jpeg.html)
Can anyone confirm?
So.....this thug, at the age of 18 years, already had fathered three children, probably destined to be on the government dole all their lives.
Thank you, Officer Wilson.
Hey DUmbasses -
Think about where the idiot was shot while watching this.[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI42kQxZ0Zw[/youtube]
Rex (45,430 posts)
56. Could it be possible the bullets to the arm spun him around to face the officer
and then the last two shots hit him in the head...as he was facing the officer?
You would think the primitives would wait before jumping to conclusions, but then again they wouldn't be primitives would they?
It looks like the primitive narrative is sinking faster than the Duke lacrosse team allegations.
While .40 S&W (which I believe was what the officer was using) has better terminal ballistics than 9mm, it does not have the kinetic energy, nor do the wound channels appear to indicate a rotational force was applied to this criminal.
Contrary to what hollywood will tell you, bullets don't cause you to spin and fall dead instantly. God these people's ignorance of things outside of wymin's studies and how to be a professional victim is appalling. :banghead:
So.....this thug, at the age of 18 years, already had fathered three children, probably destined to be on the government dole all their lives.
That's very relevant, betraying the thug had poor impulse control, poor anger management, and a record of doing really stupid, inconsiderate things, causing messes for the rest of us to take care of, clean up.
Damn.
Also there are pictures out there of Brown throwing gang signs. And the picture of the "memorial" had a couple items, a red Cardinals ball cap and another black cap with a red "P", in it that leads me to believe that Brown was a member of a gang affiliated with the Bloods.Well, he made his mark in this world.....right in the middle of the street.....in red.
Because daze haz rites....and daze willst tell yuz bout dem too.
You need to move into the deep, dark south to understand the mentality of the wheel deprived minority.
On top of the whole entitlement mentality, he was also six-four, as big as a fridge, eighteen, on dope, and used to pushing people around to get whatever he wanted...what are the chances that the idea of 'restraint' would even flicker across his tiny little Tyrannosaurus brain when the cop hailed him?
While .40 S&W (which I believe was what the officer was using) has better terminal ballistics than 9mm, it does not have the kinetic energy, nor do the wound channels appear to indicate a rotational force was applied to this criminal.
Contrary to what hollywood will tell you, bullets don't cause you to spin and fall dead instantly. God these people's ignorance of things outside of wymin's studies and how to be a professional victim is appalling. :banghead:
Energy = (.5)(Mass)( Velocity2), IIRC. A bullet weighing a couple of ounces is not going to move a 300 lb. stationary man (even less so that 300 lb. man running toward the gun). And a bullet does not transfer all of its energy on impact, but continues moving.
Hi5! All very true! But try telling that to the 'reality based community' over at DU and all you will hear is this: :lalala: the ignorance is astounding. :banghead:Being ignorant is excusable but fighting tooth and nail to stay that way is unforgivable.
A bullet weighing a couple of ounces is not going to move a 300 lb. stationary man (even less so that 300 lb. man running toward the gun).
On the contrary there have been numerous cases where "dead me walking" have killed cops after having received fatal wounds, Miami shoot out comes to mind where the perp continued to fight for four more minutes killing two agents .
Adrenaline is a miracle drug.
http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2011/05/5-gunfights-that-changed-law-enforcement.aspx
A two-ounce bullet might move someone, but it would also be brutal to fire from a handgun.
A .40 S&W bullet is typically less than 0.3 ounce, and a 9mm much less.
When all is peace full and out of no where something explodes on the scene, something so unexpected, people freeze as their brains adjust to what is happening.
A two-ounce bullet might move someone, but it would also be brutal to fire from a handgun.
A .40 S&W bullet is typically less than 0.3 ounce, and a 9mm much less.
On the contrary there have been numerous cases where "dead me walking" have killed cops after having received fatal wounds, Miami shoot out comes to mind where the perp continued to fight for four more minutes killing two agents .
Adrenaline is a miracle drug.
http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2011/05/5-gunfights-that-changed-law-enforcement.aspx
The headline I saw about that--I didn't click the link--said "Michael Brown's three children."
Hi5! All very true! But try telling that to the 'reality based community' over at DU and all you will hear is this: :lalala: the ignorance is astounding. :banghead: