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Title: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out] [new info 08-12]
Post by: USA4ME on August 05, 2014, 04:08:57 PM
Quote from:
IronGate

To all my fellow DU'ers.
 
Need your help with my daughter and granddaughter.
Her deadbeat Firefighter husband walked out on them 4 months ago leaving them destitute.
He took their only car leaving them without transportation which prevents her from getting a job , he closed the bank account, shut off the internet, shut off the TV service, tried to shut off her only phone.
She can't even afford new clothes for her daughter for school.
She has since signed up for SNAP and TANF benefits, but those only go so far in paying the bills.

This is the link to a place to donate for her, so please DU, any help would be greatly appreciated by her and my granddaughter

http://www.gofundme.com/cltrs8

Hosts: I hope I didn't step over the line posting this here, I saw another DU'er had posted something like this, so I took a chance.
She really needs our help.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025340305#post23

This guy is already up to $3,453 of $6,000, so I figure why not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5332878

Let's see how much my mole can get. Hey, I only need $2,000. I'll donate what I receive to charity.

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: USA4ME on August 05, 2014, 04:48:20 PM
They're slamming me with questions over there.

Look primitives, just cough up the cash. You've given the other nutso $3500 and you question me about a lousy 2 grand?!?

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: USA4ME on August 05, 2014, 06:18:40 PM
Quote from:
trumad

How do you feel about DU members asking for donations from DU members?
 
I'm a born cynic ---so I have to admit, I have a hard time donating to an entity that has not been proven legit.

I've seen these types of threads here on DU---especially recently--- and yeah sure I could avoid them or trash them---and yeah sure, some may be a true need for help....but again, how do we know?

Doesn't this open up DU to scammers, etc?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025341390

Quote from:
IronGate

11. Being the author of one today for my daughter and granddaughter,
 
you make a great point, it can open DU up to scammers, although I give you my word that mine isn't a scam, she really does need the help.
Being a born cynic is sometimes a good thing, if you have any doubt that it's a scam, by all means, don't donate, I myself don't take it personal.
I'm not quite sure how you would verify that a request for donations is legit. I guess that's for Skinner and co. to figure out.
I very reluctantly started this thread only because my daughter is in dire straits and so far, we've gotten some great advice for fellow members, which is more valuable than the donations.
Have a good day.

Here's hoping my answer gains me a little more loot. I think the primitives were already tapped from the other guy.

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: 67 Rover on August 05, 2014, 06:32:04 PM
This guy is already up to $3,453 of $6,000, so I figure why not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5332878

Let's see how much my mole can get. Hey, I only need $2,000. I'll donate what I receive to charity.

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Salvation Army donation or a pro life organization should send them into a rage.  :lmao:
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: Mr Mannn on August 05, 2014, 06:41:09 PM
Build on the hate over there. Offer to accept donations to rebuild Gaza and give it to families of fallen Israeli soldiers.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: franksolich on August 05, 2014, 06:54:10 PM
What the fu.....dge is the truemud primitive talking about here, asking this question?

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Doesn't this open up DU to scammers, etc?

Skins's island's been open to scammers for years and years now.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: USA4ME on August 05, 2014, 07:21:06 PM
Only $75 so far.

Cheapskates!!

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: franksolich on August 05, 2014, 07:35:06 PM
Only $75 so far.

Cheapskates!!

Yes, they are.

I guess the primitives are more "talk" than "do," when it comes to living up to their delusions of themselves being such caring people.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: USA4ME on August 05, 2014, 08:00:46 PM
Yes, they are.

I guess the primitives are more "talk" than "do," when it comes to living up to their delusions of themselves being such caring people.

They were feeling so good about giving today so I figure I'd give them another chance to help someone. But suddenly -- BAM!! -- the spigot is turned off.

This is like pulling teeth.

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: USA4ME on August 05, 2014, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from:
IronGate

62. She has an appointment on Thursday with a legal aid attorney.
 
She's staying at her house and the Police are keeping a close eye on her and my granddaughter.
She wanted to borrow one of my guns, but I refused due to her mental state right now, it would've been more of a liability than an assest, instead I gave her a can of pepper spray.

I've noticed over on conservative cave one of those vile assholes is pretending to be me, that's so ****ed up.
What a bunch of jerks!!!!!!

A little reverse psychology. This should help pick up the donations.

Edit: I'll need to lay low over here for a while so as to not spook the primitives.

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: USA4ME on August 05, 2014, 10:03:16 PM
Quote from:
TBF

63. I'm glad to hear she is hooked up w/legal aid -
 
I was fortunate to be working when I left a bad situation (and no kids). But I did find the folks at the local women's center very helpful and attended a few seminars that helped me get on w/my life. I don't know about conservative cave, but I think you may be getting some push back because you are a newer member.

Legal aid -- Smeagle grade.

So I've only been there 4 months. My relatives need money, primitive. Pony Up!!

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: franksolich on August 05, 2014, 10:05:03 PM
Oh my.

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IronGate (1,419 posts)    Tue Aug 5, 2014, 09:38 PM

62. She has an appointment on Thursday with a legal aid attorney.

She's staying at her house and the Police are keeping a close eye on her and my granddaughter.

She wanted to borrow one of my guns, but I refused due to her mental state right now, it would've been more of a liability than an assest, instead I gave her a can of pepper spray.
 
I've noticed over on conservative cave one of those vile assholes, USA4ME, is pretending to be me, that's so ****ed up.

What a bunch of jerks!!!!!!

On edit: Hey USA4ME, GO **** YOURSELF YOU VILE, WORTHLESS WASTE OF O2.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: beefeater on August 05, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
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Response to IronGate (Original post)Tue Aug 5, 2014, 09:23 PM
IronGate (1,420 posts)
60. Kick. nt.

Reply to this post

Excellent touch.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: HawkHogan on August 05, 2014, 10:11:08 PM
Why is this Dummy pretending that divorce laws don't exist? 
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: USA4ME on August 05, 2014, 10:12:12 PM
Oh my.

Hey, gotta throw them off the trail.

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: franksolich on August 05, 2014, 10:17:17 PM
Hey, gotta throw them off the trail.

You know, I've always been in favor of Skins banning fund-raisers (excepting, of course, his own, which is understandable) on Skins's island.  It's for the primitives' own good, so they don't get gulled.

<<<has primitives' best interests at heart.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: HawkHogan on August 05, 2014, 10:25:52 PM
You know, I've always been in favor of Skins banning fund-raisers (excepting, of course, his own, which is understandable) on Skins's island.  It's for the primitives' own good, so they don't get gulled.

<<<has primitives' best interests at heart.

From my short time here on CC, I could just never imagine anyone on conservative cave ever having the gall to ask for hand-outs here.
I guess that's the difference between Dummies and conservatives.  One group will work longer hours, take second jobs, and do what ever it takes to make their family stay afloat.  The other will go beg for money online. 
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: franksolich on August 05, 2014, 10:27:23 PM
From my short time here on CC, I could just never imagine anyone on conservative cave ever having the gall to ask for hand-outs here.

That's because it's more lucrative having one's mole on Skins's island ask the primitives for money.

We're tightwads here.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: franksolich on August 05, 2014, 10:34:27 PM
Uh oh.

Whoopsy-doops.

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IronGate (1,422 posts)    Tue Aug 5, 2014, 02:29 PM

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: Chris_ on August 05, 2014, 10:52:00 PM
Oh my.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: USA4ME on August 05, 2014, 11:00:45 PM
Uh oh.

Whoopsy-doops.

Yeah, this isn't good. And I had almost 1500 posts. Maybe I'll survive but I'll need to play it cool; just say kooky stuff for a while.

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: franksolich on August 05, 2014, 11:24:54 PM
From the other thread, that's still alive.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025332878

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tblue37 (13,632 posts)    Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:54 PM

226. Kick, because you are still more than $2000 short,

and because someone posted a thread today that seems to suggest a lot of requests must be scams. I truly don't think the ones on DU are scams.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: Chris_ on August 05, 2014, 11:26:25 PM
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Tue Aug 5, 2014, 02:36 PM
randys1 (2,865 posts)
3. But you are pro union so I wasnt sure why you pointed it out.

Unless it is to point out that as a Union Firefighter he gets really good pay and benefits and is so greedy he is taking all of that away from his family.
Naturally.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: franksolich on August 05, 2014, 11:29:35 PM
Naturally.

If the primitives fulfill their pledges, it looks as if conservativecave's got all its operating expenses paid for, the next eighteen months.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: franksolich on August 05, 2014, 11:54:05 PM
Well, the primitive who gave stewert $100 a few months back:

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Rhiannon12866 (64,298 posts) Tue Aug 5, 2014, 11:50 PM

227. K&R! Made a donation and wishing you all the best!

 :-)
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: franksolich on August 06, 2014, 05:41:19 AM

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catchnrelease (810 posts)    Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:52 AM

229. I just checked back

Wow over $4k now, woohoo! Oh and here's another

You know, I dunno.

I'm aware of two other times--it's been years, though--where moles fund-raised from the primitives.

I dunno what happened in one instance, but in the other, the mole complained that the primitives' "walk" didn't match their "talk," their pledges publicly stated on the thread.  He said the primitives lied, cheating him out of more than half of what they'd promised him.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: franksolich on August 06, 2014, 07:57:39 AM
Well, the second thread appears dead now, nothing going on.

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230 replies, 7783 views

But envious congratulations to whoever's mole pulled this off.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: USA4ME on August 06, 2014, 08:07:22 AM
Quote from:
BainsBane

I wouldn't put any stock in what the cave says, however. They wouldn't out one of their real moles. That they identified him as one of theirs tells me he isn't.

Oh Alex!

Alex! Alex! Alex!

You just aren't that bright, sweetheart.

How do you know that's not exactly what I wanted you to believe? Who's to say what you believe now is or isn't the truth? How does this affect the future of something we may or may not want to do on the island and how to redirect the attention of the primitives?

So many questions.

Pay no attention to us over here. We aren't doing anything. Just remember that.

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: franksolich on August 06, 2014, 08:11:22 AM
Oh Alex!

Alex! Alex! Alex!

You just aren't that bright, sweetheart.

How do you know that's not exactly what I wanted you to believe? Who's to say what you believe now is or isn't the truth? How does this affect the future of something we may or may not want to do on the island and how to redirect the attention of the primitives?

So many questions.

Pay no attention to us over here. We aren't doing anything. Just remember that.

The primitives, I suppose, are bright enough to understand the concept of a "double agent" in espionage; it's pretty simple.

I doubt however any of them are smart enough to grasp the idea of--and such things do exist--"triple agent" and "quadruple agent."

I suggest the primitives read some books about espionage, to see how it's done.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 06, 2014, 01:42:30 PM
"I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key."

-Sir Winston Churchill
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: beholden on August 06, 2014, 09:39:12 PM
I did a little research and from what I found out, this guy really is telling the truth about his daughter and grand daughther, there is a Stephanie Heier living in the town of Pahrump, NV, her husband really is a Pahrump Firefighter, there is a temporary order of protection against him and, near as I can figure, IronGate really is a firefighter paramedic somewhere in the pacific northwest.

I may go ahead and donate $100.00 to help her and her kid out.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: Bad Dog on August 07, 2014, 02:14:02 AM
I did a little research and from what I found out, this guy really is telling the truth about his daughter and grand daughther, there is a Stephanie Heier living in the town of Pahrump, NV, her husband really is a Pahrump Firefighter, there is a temporary order of protection against him and, near as I can figure, IronGate really is a firefighter paramedic somewhere in the pacific northwest.

I may go ahead and donate $100.00 to help her and her kid out.

God bless you,  I really wish we could afford to send some too but, our BMW needs it's 50K service and you know how expensive that is. 
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: fatboy on August 07, 2014, 07:19:01 AM
Only $75 so far.

Cheapskates!!!

You cannot put an actual literal pricetag on the value of sent out vibes.

BTW, USA4ME, good moling. As Napoleon would say, you Sir are a mole talent Tour deForce!.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: fatboy on August 07, 2014, 07:29:28 AM
God bless you,  I really wish we could afford to send some too but, our BMW needs it's 50K service and you know how expensive that is.

I feel your pain BD. The Mobile 1 (0W-40) European Blend my C-Class uses is is costly. Personally, I just had to make an emergency fishing rod/reel purchase. Stripers will soon be getting ready for the fall run and I don't want to be caught unprepared.

My rod and reel, they comfort me <><     <><    <><'
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: Gina on August 07, 2014, 08:01:47 AM
From my short time here on CC, I could just never imagine anyone on conservative cave ever having the gall to ask for hand-outs here.
I guess that's the difference between Dummies and conservatives.  One group will work longer hours, take second jobs, and do what ever it takes to make their family stay afloat.  The other will go beg for money online.

Oh they have asked, but they weren't "handouts"   :naughty:
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: I_B_Perky on August 07, 2014, 10:00:29 PM
Congrats to USA
Oh Alex!

Alex! Alex! Alex!

You just aren't that bright, sweetheart.

How do you know that's not exactly what I wanted you to believe? Who's to say what you believe now is or isn't the truth? How does this affect the future of something we may or may not want to do on the island and how to redirect the attention of the primitives?

So many questions.

Pay no attention to us over here. We aren't doing anything. Just remember that.


You sir, are good!!!  The Rove is pleased. Now on to airing a little bit of dirty laundry here so to speak...  I told The Rove that you knew your VRWC dues were in arrears and working on catching them up...  I never dreamed you would come up with this!!!!  Made the dummies pay for it!!!!  Freaking genius!!!!

H5!!!!*




* When can we expect payment?


God bless you,  I really wish we could afford to send some too but, our BMW needs it's 50K service and you know how expensive that is.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

H5 BD!!!!!  That made me spew my drink all over the keyboard!

Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: USA4ME on August 07, 2014, 10:22:58 PM

Thanks Perky. I was just killing some time, having a bit of fun at their expense. Ain't nothin' but a thang.

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: I_B_Perky on August 07, 2014, 10:33:48 PM
Thanks Perky. I was just killing some time, having a bit of fun at their expense. Ain't nothin' but a thang.

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And a damn good thang it was!!!! :hi5:
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: Chris_ on August 07, 2014, 10:34:45 PM
And a damn good thang it was!!!! :hi5:
Seconded. :II:  :lmao:
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 07, 2014, 11:56:53 PM
If the primitives fulfill their pledges, it looks as if conservativecave's got all its operating expenses paid for, the next eighteen months.

That be retardant.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: franksolich on August 12, 2014, 01:24:53 PM
Ooopsy-dooops.

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IronGate (1,552 posts)    Tue Aug 5, 2014, 02:29 PM

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This isn't the original fund-raising thread, but the second one started by the IronGate primitive, to respond to reasonable allegations that he's a mole.

 :-)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025340305
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give.
Post by: delilahmused on August 12, 2014, 08:40:52 PM
You know, I've always been in favor of Skins banning fund-raisers (excepting, of course, his own, which is understandable) on Skins's island.  It's for the primitives' own good, so they don't get gulled.

<<<has primitives' best interests at heart.

Especially since there will never be one on such a large scale as Scamdy.

Cindie
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: Tess Anderson on August 12, 2014, 09:47:36 PM
I did a little research and from what I found out, this guy really is telling the truth about his daughter and grand daughther, there is a Stephanie Heier living in the town of Pahrump, NV, her husband really is a Pahrump Firefighter, there is a temporary order of protection against him and, near as I can figure, IronGate really is a firefighter paramedic somewhere in the pacific northwest.

I may go ahead and donate $100.00 to help her and her kid out.

Hold up a minute, maybe I ought to do a little research - okay, there is a Pahrump firefighter with that surname:

http://transparentnevada.com/salaries/2013/pahrump/heier-kevin/

and the wife's name is Stephanie by the beg link - she must be a stoner, wildcat420?

but it just gets worse - her parents are named in this old birth announcement:

http://archive.pahrumpvalleytimes.com/2002/04/05/3765385.html

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Dennis and Linda Heier and James and Sheila Marshall, all of Pahrump, are the grandparents.

They're NOT on the up and up:

http://archive.pahrumpvalleytimes.com/2003/09/03/news/marshall.html


 :o Now read this:

http://www.caringforourchildrenfoundation.org/?p=19367

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/17281711/pahrump-couple-charged-in-child-pornography-case

Unfrickin'believable.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out]
Post by: franksolich on August 12, 2014, 10:27:13 PM
Unfrickin'believable.

The primitives never fail to disappoint, do they?
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out] [new info 08-12]
Post by: mamacags on August 12, 2014, 11:26:28 PM
So is irongate this Marshell pervert guy?
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out] [new info 08-12]
Post by: Tess Anderson on August 13, 2014, 01:30:13 AM
His brother is running for country sheriff:

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As for Marshall, Horn’s arrest is not the only black mark on his campaign. Marshall’s brother, James Marshall, still faces child pornography charges after his arrest an in March 2012. His trial isn’t scheduled to take place until after the November election.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=646395948761504&id=111940278873743


So is irongate this Marshell pervert guy?

Yep, and Irongate is also this guy:

http://www.discussionist.com/?com=profile&uid=100902

and this guy:

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cowman  (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore  Sat Apr-10-10 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #127
128. I was
 a US Navy Seabee and we helped fortify the Marine base, many a time I brought my dozer to scrape out trenches and such, got shot at many many times, fought alongside you guys frequently. Love you Marines.

My daughter is in the US Army Reserves as an MP and has done 3 tours to Iraq, the kid has seen more combat than I ever saw. She's also a Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officer who serves the community honorably.

When I got discharged in 73 I swore I would never take another human life if possible so in 75 a friend of mine said he could get me a spot on the NV Test Site Fire Dept where I spent 5 years and then tested for the Las Vegas Fire Dept. in 80 and got hired on, been a Firefighter/Paramedic for 35 years now, will retire in Sept but will still volunteer at the local FD in the town I live in just to keep my Para license active/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=307500&mesg_id=309033

and this guy:

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Re: Dain Bramaged- I don't need a license to post stupid shit for all to see

« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2013, 09:43:28 PM »

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Kinda off topic, but, hey neighbor, Pahrumpian here. 
You Clark County people have to have that stupid blue card for your guns whereas, here in Nye County, we don't even have to register our guns. I open carry all the time into our WalMart and no one even notices it.

That DUmmy is full of it, I've yet to see anyone get upset because I open carry.

http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=84921.msg1053316#msg1053316

Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out] [new info 08-12]
Post by: Carl on August 13, 2014, 08:56:15 AM
Gosh,another DUmb begger into child porn,what a shock.
I hope law enforcement keeps a close eye on Skins island of deviant scum,anytime there is a sex crime it would serve as a suspect database.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out] [new info 08-12]
Post by: franksolich on August 13, 2014, 08:58:26 AM
I hope law enforcement keeps a close eye on Skins island of deviant scum,anytime there is a sex crime it would serve as a suspect database.

I didn't used to think so, but now I'm starting to think so.
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out] [new info 08-12]
Post by: Dori on August 13, 2014, 02:29:28 PM
Wow...just wow

This is huge. 

If this irongate is the same guy, I hope the daughter has a restraining order on him.  Why would he be begging for money for his grandkids, when their father makes over 70k, and their great grandparents are a doctor and a preacher?

Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out] [new info 08-12]
Post by: USA4ME on August 13, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
Kinda makes IronGates shout-out to me to be seen in a whole new light, doesn't it?

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Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out] [new info 08-12]
Post by: mamacags on August 13, 2014, 10:38:35 PM
Holy crap!  Do the DUmbasses know yet
Title: Re: IronGate primitive needs help. Please give. [shout out] [new info 08-12]
Post by: franksolich on August 13, 2014, 11:40:59 PM
Holy crap!  Do the DUmbasses know yet

If they do, they probably don't care.