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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 03, 2014, 09:17:32 AM
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Behold the face of the Peace-at-all-costs tribe.
muriel_volestrangler (72,943 posts)
Is it time for an international (armed) aid operation to Gaza?
Israel controls most of the borders, and patrols the sea; Egypt controls one border. Together, they imprison Gaza, literally put it on a restricted diet, and intermittently bombard it, acting as terrorists (using violent methods to induce terror in inhabitants).
Should we send in aid flotillas - protected by navies, since the Israelis have attacked unarmed ones in the past? There is a humanitarian crisis, and you cannot depend on the people who are causing it - the Israeli government - to cooperate with an international effort to end the crisis. So, send in aid by ship, tell Israel that any action by them against the aid will be taken as an act of war, and continue to do so. Even if Israel temporarily gives up the bombardment, as it often does, then continue doing it this way. Make their blockade of the border with Israel meaningless. Keep Israeli ships out of the area immediately to the west of the Gaza strip, and if they fire so much as a bullet in international waters beyond that, treat it as an act of piracy.
There is a port: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Gaza . Assuming Israel hasn't mined it yet, then it's a starting point for where to do this. Tell Israel that any injuries or deaths of aid workers in Gaza will be regarded as war crimes.
CJCRANE (15,038 posts)
2. Like the Berlin airlift?
It's a good idea but unlikely to happen as Palestine is just a geopolitical football for the big powers and their allies.
[/muriel_volestrangler (72,947 posts)
3. Yes, that's the general idea
Given the European politicians starting to say that the attack on Gaza is now unacceptable, I think it might have a chance of success.
malaise (121,783 posts)
9. Good idea and it looks like the world is finally waking up
By the way can you explain the silence of the pope?
B Calm (21,534 posts)
4. Maybe if we gave Gaza a missile defense system too.
I thought those were Ronnie Ray Gun's wild fantasy that could never come true?
JVS (61,710 posts)
7. When does Egypt bombard Gaza?
muriel_volestrangler (72,947 posts)
11. They shut one border
and they are generally complicit with the Israelis.
Jews: What don't they control?
HooptieWagon (10,251 posts)
8. Israel likely to use "Samson option"...
... on any countries that aid Gaza militarily, thus starting WW3. However, an arms and economic boycott would isolate Israel. And they already are a pariah state, having ignored more UN resolutions than any other country. If the US would stop allowing Israel to hide behind our skirts in the UN, they would be isolated politically as well. We have long passed the point of having to put up with a spoiled petulant child. Time to cut them loose, where their actions have consequences.
TRANSLATION: The Jews are a threat to international peace and something must be done!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025330248
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B Calm (21,534 posts)
4. Maybe if we gave Gaza a missile defense system too.
They already have one, they just choose to shoot theirs into Israel with no provocation and at civilian targets
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Is it time for an international (armed) aid operation to Gaza?
Yes. Hamas loving American leftists should form an army and deploy to Gaza. They could call themselves the Rachel Corrie brigade.
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muriel_volestrangler
Should we send in aid flotillas - protected by navies, since the Israelis have attacked unarmed ones in the past?
"We", who? The United States? The United Nations? Uncle Skinner's Misfit Children?*
DUmmies and their delusions.
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*With apologies to all Marines, past and present
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Do these idiots not know what Hamas is and who is supplying them?
Are they blind?
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Do these idiots not know what Hamas is and who is supplying them?
Are they blind?
No.
No.
Yes......and stupid:
B Calm (21,534 posts)
4. Maybe if we gave Gaza a missile defense system too.
It ain't the Israelis launching missiles, retards.
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DUmmies refuse to believe polls that show 80% of Americans support Israel. Further politicians running for office all support Israel.
*** I think we quoted a post here that lamented even Elizabeth Warren supported Israel. Even Obama not only condemned the (now dead) soldier's kidnapping, but he reiterated Israel's right to defend herself, and her right to destroy the tunnels. Even the socialist president of France came out and supported Israel's right to defend herself.
The hate at DU-Land is not all pervasive. Turkey canceled her armed flotilla shortly after announcing it. Turkey's navy probably balked at the idea of having their ships sunk.
Once again, DUmmies have misinterpreted their crazy as world opinion.
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Do these idiots not know what Hamas is and who is supplying them?
Are they blind?
Dummies know full well that Hamas is a terror organization.
They are not blind, DUmmies support terror. They support murdering their enemies. DUmmies would use terror on us if they thought they could get away with it.
Like all terrorists, DUmmies are cowards: They are only brave when no one can shoot back. that is why they want to disarm America.
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Do these idiots not know what Hamas is and who is supplying them?
Are they blind?
Nothing about their hate is rational.
Whatever they would condemn Israel for doing accidentally they would excuse Hamas doing deliberately.
It's hatred.
Some support Arab terrorists because they were kindred spirits during the days of the USSR. Others hate the US to compensate for their personal failures. Others hate the Bible and believe the Koran is no threat. Many simply follow the herd.
There's no point in looking for logic in it.
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Nobody here is stopping the Painted Mouse Choker from taking himself and his DUmp buddies to gaza to hump some hamass goats.
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muriel_volestrangler (72,943 posts)
Is it time for an international (armed) aid operation to Gaza?
Yeah go ahead and try that. They've got a cell reserved at Gitmo for ya if you do.
DUmbass.
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duhneece (1,957 posts)
30. I want a Peacekeeping plan, action, something
I want to go, like Rachel Corrie, even if I die there. I'm 63. Fellowship of Reconciliation has been on this for a long time:
http://forusa.org/blogs/for/support-for-members-gaza-freedom-flotilla/8810
I have this friggin health problem, but I'm seriously considering it.
hack89 (27,082 posts)
14. The world, especially the Arab world, hates Hamas more
That is why nothing will happen. The world is not as united as you fantasize about.
HooptieWagon (10,253 posts)
15. Almost all of South America has withdrawn diplomats.
That is not because they support Hamas, but because of Israels wanton destructure of Gaza infrastructure and slaughter of civilians with no connection to Hamas. Israel has bought off US polititians, so I don't expect any US response other than "strongly written letters", accompanied by additional arms shipments. But a sizeable number of US people have turned against Israel, in part because of their outrageous lies and propaganda used to justify genocide. Israel is a rougue apartheid state, and the time will come soon when they are reined in by economic sanctions.
former9thward (10,986 posts)
18. No surprise there.
South American countries harbored Nazis after WW II. Four countries in S. America is not "the world."
sabrina 1 (45,344 posts)
22. Hamas isn't the issue, and by the end of this, as happened with Lebanon, Hamas is
likely to be more popular than the Israeli government. Because while people might have viewed them as terrorists in the past, watching this is causing people to begin to think that the Palestinians with no army of their own, NEED Hamas.
Sometimes I wonder if Netanyahu is trying to destroy Israel, because he's doing a pretty good job of turning the world against it.
hack89 (27,082 posts)
26. Look at the slaughter in the ME beyond Gaza
And you will understand what Arab governments truly fear. They see Hamas in the same light as ISIS.
sabrina 1 (45,344 posts)
28. We caused a lot of that over decades of supporting Dictators.
Our latest ventures there supposedly creating 'democracies' created the current situation with Isis, installing and supporting Maliki whose idea of democracy was to shoot and kill peaceful protesters who BELIEVED the 'democracy' fairy tale. And torturing, as reported by Chelsea Manning, peaceful protesters holding SIGNS.
So I would agree that we are not the ones who can do anything to fix what we were so much a part of creating.
I don't know what the solution to the chaos the Western Colonial powers have caused, but it isn't US going back to try and fix it. And the Saudis should fear a total uprising against their own dictatorship and collaboration with the Western Powers' brutal invasions over the decades.
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21. No. PE Can Be Treated With Facts
This is the only issue where so-called progressives turn into rabid, foaming at the moth rethugs. Their minds turn to much and logic disappears. While you are at it, get some armed intervention going everywhere else in the world where there is conflict, even in those places where the actual victims are not provoking it.
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madokie (40,218 posts)
29. Past time
Yes by all means lets take our might, if we must or have to, to stop this slaughter. The borders between Israel and the Palestinian people needs to be moved back where the Palestinian people have a place to live and prosper, grow their own food, have their own industry, their own means of survival. There needs to be some give on the Israeli side and not only from the Palestinians as has been the case for decades now. Nuttyahoo needs to be in the Dock at the Hague for crimes against humanity and war crimes just as sure as the dick and w's and their whole cabal do.
Not only for the Palestinian people but for the people of Lebanon as well
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No one offered to send the OP some enlistment papers?
Isn't that the usual DUmmy response when someone suggests military action?
The enemies of America are always the DUmmies friends. Nevermind that pole-smoking, child-aborting, drug-huffing liberals would be the first ones having their heads separated from their bodies should they ever find themselves subject to those "friends".
Talk about going against your own self interests. :mental:
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DUmmies showing their true colors. :mental:
DU is the most hateful site I have seen.
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Israel controls most of the borders, and patrols the sea; Egypt controls one border. Together, they imprison Gaza, literally put it on a restricted diet, and intermittently bombard it, acting as terrorists (using violent methods to induce terror in inhabitants).
If another Arab Muslim nation sides with Israel against Hamas, that should tell any sane person how deranged Hamas is.