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Title: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on July 31, 2014, 10:53:09 AM
Just a single thread I found so far and no replies. It must suck when you lose in court 5-2. Suck it, DUmmies.  :tongue:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/108412173
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a kennedy (8,615 posts)

Like we didn't know this was going to happen...Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Collective
Bargaining Law..... d*mn.

The Wisconsin Supreme Court has upheld the 2011 law that effectively ended collective bargaining for most public workers, sparked massive protests and led to Republican Gov. Scott Walker's recall election and rise to national prominence.

Thursday's 5-2 ruling is a victory for Walker, who is considering a 2016 run for president and is seeking re-election this year. It also marks the end of the three-year legal fight over the union rights law, which prohibits public worker unions for collectively bargaining for anything beyond base wage increases based on inflation. A federal appeals court twice upheld the law as constitutional.

The high court ruled in a lawsuit filed by the Madison teachers union and a union representing Milwaukee public workers. They had argued that the law, which came to be known as Act 10, violated workers' constitutional rights to free assembly and equal protection.

Walker introduced the proposal shortly after taking office in 2011, a move that was met with fierce resistance from teachers, other public workers and their supporters who flooded the Capitol for weeks in an effort to block the bill's passage. Democratic state senators fled the state for two weeks in a failed attempt to block the bill's passage.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/31/wisconsin-voter-id_n_5637250.html

Also, Voter ID cases were heard and upheld.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/wisconsin-supreme-court-upholds-voter-id-law/article_2018de7b-6819-544e-be84-0d5851c446f5.html
...and two more to the junk. :nutkick:  <---Walker vs. any DUmmie blue fister

All in all, a sad day to be a DUmmie in WI.
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: franksolich on July 31, 2014, 10:57:19 AM
All in all, a sad day to be a DUmmie in WI.

And a good day to be a decent and civilized person just about anywhere.
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: DefiantSix on July 31, 2014, 11:10:03 AM
And the hits just keep on coming for the moonbats...

 :nutkick:
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: GOBUCKS on July 31, 2014, 11:16:03 AM
Democracy died tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy8FSyI_Djg
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: DefiantSix on July 31, 2014, 11:19:04 AM
Democracy died tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy8FSyI_Djg

Good.  I've been waiting for the chance to piss on democracy's grave.  :fuelfire:
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on July 31, 2014, 11:26:56 AM
Democracy died tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy8FSyI_Djg
Classic.

Walker keeps winning. If this continues to happen we may need to change our state song to this to really rub it in:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_WERPN8KO8[/youtube]
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 31, 2014, 11:59:57 AM
Classic.

Walker keeps winning. If this continues to happen we may need to change our state song to this to really rub it in:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_WERPN8KO8[/youtube]

I thought that was Dick Cheney's theme music! :whistling: :cheersmate:
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: Carl on July 31, 2014, 03:09:22 PM
For an encore!

Wisconsin's Supreme Court Upholds Voter IDs As Eric Holder Ramps Up Pressure (http://news.yahoo.com/wisconsins-supreme-court-upholds-voter-ids-eric-holder-152004899.html)
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: redwhit on July 31, 2014, 03:16:17 PM
Democracy died tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy8FSyI_Djg

This vid always brings a smile to my face - am I a bad person?
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: Ogre on July 31, 2014, 06:07:41 PM
This vid always brings a smile to my face - am I a bad person?

Nope, the tears and sobbing of liberals always brings a smile to me as well.

DUmmy tears, there is nothing sweeter than DUmmy tears. :-)
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: USA4ME on July 31, 2014, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from:
Gothmog

Wisconsin State Supreme Court engage in some extreme Judicial Activism to save voter id law
 
The Wisconsin state supreme court upheld the Wisconsin voter id law but looked seriously at the poll tax issue and decided that fees paid to obtain the documents necessary to get a “free” id are not allowed and may be poll taxes. In order to find the Wisconsin law constitutional, the Wisconsin state supreme court engaged in some serious judicial activism and created a waiver where a voter who does not have a document necessary to get a free id can file for a waiver. http://wicourts.gov/sc/opinion/DisplayDocument.html?content=html&seqNo=118667


¶69 In order to harmonize the directive of Wis. Stat. § 343.50(5)(a)3., which says no fees; statutes such as Wis. Stat. § 69.22, which impose payment of fees; and Wis. Admin. Code § Trans 102.15(3)(a), which requires certain documents for which electors may be required to pay fees to government agencies, we construe § Trans 102.15(3)(b). We do so to preserve the constitutionality of § 343.50(5), as follows: One who petitions an administrator pursuant to § Trans 102.15(3)(b) for an exception is constitutionally "unable" to provide those documents and they are constitutionally "unavailable" to the petitioner within our interpretation of § Trans 102.13(3)(b), so long as petitioner does not have the documents and would be required to pay a government agency to obtain them.

¶70 Stated otherwise, to invoke an administrator's discretion in the issuance of a DOT photo identification card to vote, an elector: (1) makes a written petition to a DMV administrator as directed by Wis. Admin. Code § Trans 102.15(3)(b) set forth above; (2) asserts he or she is "unable" to provide documents required by § Trans 102.15(3)(a) without paying a fee to a government agency to obtain them; (3) asserts those documents are "unavailable" without the payment of such a fee; and (4) asks for an exception to the provision of § Trans 102.15(3)(a) documents whereby proof of name and date of birth that have been provided are accepted. § Trans 102.15(3)(b) and (c). Upon receipt of a petition for an exception, the administrator, or his or her designee, shall exercise his or her discretion in a constitutionally sufficient manner.

¶71 We further conclude that filing a Wis. Admin. Code § Trans 102.15(3)(b) petition for an exception with a DMV administrator, as set forth above, is not a severe burden on the right to vote. Accordingly, because the burdens of time, inconvenience and costs upon electors' right to vote are not severe under our interpretation of § Trans 102.15, we apply a rational basis level of scrutiny in determining whether Act 23 is constitutional. Mary F.-R., 351 Wis. 2d 273, ¶35; Wagner, 263 Wis. 2d 709, ¶84. As the Supreme Court has explained, it is erroneous to assume that a law that regulates voting must be subject to strict scrutiny. Burdick, 504 U.S. at 432. Strict scrutiny applies only when a statute imposes a severe burden on the exercise of the franchise. Id. at 434.


I read this exception to include any and all documents including a birth certificate from a state other than Wisconsin. This is a major change to the law that makes it a great deal easier to live with and guts the voter suppression effects of the law. There is great language in the opinion on the poll tax issue that will be helpful for the Veasey plaintiffs in the Texas voter id case.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025318138

This stupid, fat pig lawyer has been running his dimwitted mouth, both on the island and on Skin's new creation (the sub-island), about how all these laws are going to be easily swatted away.  Of course, he refers to them as "voter suppression" laws since his inability to properly discern the purpose of the laws leaves him grabbing at what his political ideology commands him to believe. He's as dumb as they come and now he's having to backpedal to try and save his pudgy face.

Won't work, fat boy.

Quote from:
Scuba

1. Clear as mud.

Does this mean a voter still has to jump through hoops to get an ID? Getting forms can require travel if one doesn't have internet access. Para 71 says this is "not a severe burden". Well, it's not to the average Joe in Appleton, but he probably already has an ID. It's the poor old lady living with her daughter in Milwaukee who will be burdened.

Also, it's hard to imagine the average voter reading the three paragraphs above and having any clue what they should do.

Even the simpleminded diving primitive gets it.

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Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: thundley4 on July 31, 2014, 06:59:30 PM
IDs are required to obtain all government services by US citizens, requiring them to have it on their person at the time they vote is not a hardship.

The left wants it quick and easy for the newly arrived illegal immigrants to vote.  Personally, I think ballots should be printed in English and only English.
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: Delmar on July 31, 2014, 07:47:31 PM
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Thu Jul 31, 2014, 10:02 AM
Star Member a kennedy (8,615 posts)

Like we didn't know this was going to happen...Wisconsin Supreme Court Upholds Anti-Collective


Bargaining Law..... d*mn.     

------snip-----

Walker introduced the proposal shortly after taking office in 2011, a move that was met with fierce resistance from teachers, other public workers and their supporters who flooded the Capitol for weeks in an effort to block the bill's passage. Democratic state senators fled the state for two weeks in a failed attempt to block the bill's passage.

Fierce resistance?  Considering the huge numbers of teachers that have dropped out of the union since the law took effect, it looks like a lot of teachers welcomed the bill's passage.

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Public sector employees are fleeing Wisconsin unions due to Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s labor reforms.

The state’s politically powerful American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees (AFSCME) suffered a 45 percent drop in revenue, as workers opted out of dues payments, according to the Capital Times.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/union-membership-plummeting-in-wisconsin/

Does that sound like fierce resistance?

 :nelson:
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on July 31, 2014, 08:03:20 PM
Just a single thread I found so far and no replies. It must suck when you lose in court 5-2. Suck it, DUmmies.  :tongue:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/108412173
Also, Voter ID cases were heard and upheld.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/wisconsin-supreme-court-upholds-voter-id-law/article_2018de7b-6819-544e-be84-0d5851c446f5.html
...and two more to the junk. :nutkick:  <---Walker vs. any DUmmie blue fister

All in all, a sad day to be a DUmmie in WI.

They have to get their Talking Points Memos sent to them so they can make sure they can formulate the words into coherent sentences.  It takes awhile.
Title: Re: ACT 10 Upheld in WI SC. DUmmies Silent...
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on July 31, 2014, 08:09:55 PM
Fierce resistance?  Considering the huge numbers of teachers that have dropped out of the union since the law took effect, it looks like a lot of teachers welcomed the bill's passage.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/union-membership-plummeting-in-wisconsin/

Does that sound like fierce resistance?

 :nelson:

Yeah, there are numerous things that the adolescents don't really want to bring up.

1.  Teachers jobs saved.  For you lurking idiots that's: not laid off.

2.  Teachers hired.  Yes, idiots, they were.

3.  Budget balanced to the point of a budget surplus.  Dear Drooling Idiots: You mumbling idiots always like to bring up the fake Clinton surplus as proof of ......well, something.

4.  Local economies improved.

5.  Property taxes lowered.

6. Created jobs.

7. Freedom of association to a Union over extortion by enforced membership.


and on,... and on,.... and on.....