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The Bar => Sports => Topic started by: Wretched Excess on July 07, 2008, 11:25:36 AM
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I said he was gone, but maybe the people I have talked to are full of crap. :-)
peter king is one of the three or four sports writers that favre called to discuss his decision to
retire before it was formally announced, so king obviously has credibility on this issue.
it would be a mess if he did come back, a bigger mess if the packers didn't want him back, and
the biggest mess imaginable if he wound up with a team in the nfc central, er, ah, nfc north.
Nightmare in Green Bay: The saga of Brett Favre is far from over
We are early in what I can guarantee will be a very tumultuous month in the recurring Brett Favre will-he-or-won't-he saga, and what I can tell you for sure is this: No. 4 wants to play football again, and the Green Bay Packers desperately do not want him to.
Will he play? I don't know. I don't think he knows. He has, however, told coach Mike McCarthy he wants to return.
The issue is going to be pressed soon. I fully expect Favre's agent to send a letter to the Packers within the next 10 days, stating that Favre, 38, wants to be taken off the National Football League's reserve/retired list. At that point, the team will have no choice but to re-admit the league's most accomplished statistical quarterback ever back to football, and general manager Ted Thompson and McCarthy will have a decision to make that you can be sure is keeping them up nights. They can take Favre and his $12.8-million cap number back onto the team and give him his starting job back, they can trade him or they can release him.
Every one of those options makes the Packers wretch. I've been told an edgy McCarthy told Favre, in their most recent phone conversation a couple of weeks ago, the legendary quarterback would put the Packers in a tough spot by reneging on his March 6 retirement. Favre understands. But I don't think it's going to stop him from doing what his body tells him to do -- play football again.
In the past few years, Favre has begun to prepare for training camp by throwing to high-school receivers at Oak Grove High School in Hattiesburg, Miss., and when he's done that in the past month, his arm has felt pain-free and strong. That, plus the fact he hasn't found anything else to do in retirement other than the chores on his 465 acres in Hattiesburg, is making him think he wants to play football again.
And one other thing: I believe as Favre looks back on his decision to retire, he thinks part of the reason he made it was he felt it would have been easier to retire and return if he changed his mind than to blindly say he was going to keep playing -- only to find out in mid-August his heart was not in it. When he made the decision a month after the Super Bowl, he announced it with certainty. But the further he's gotten from the season, the more he realizes he still wants to play. The 2007 season was one of his three or four best as a pro. This wouldn't be a broken-down Johnny Unitas slinking back for an 18th year in San Diego. This would be Favre, in his 18th season, coming off a year when he set personal records for completion percentage (.665) and yards-per-pass-attempt (7.8).
McCarthy has also told Favre he worries about him tarnishing his legacy. The one thing I don't believe Favre understands yet is the tumult which will greet his return to the Packers, or to another NFL team. There are Packer fans who have moved on, and wish he would do the same. He doesn't realize fully -- yet -- that Brett Favre returning to the Packers would bug a slew of Packerphiles who wish he'd make a decision and stick with it and ride off into the sunset with his glory intact. Because he insulates himself from much of the football world in Mississippi, I'm sure he doesn't realize the impact that playing for another team would have on his bleed-Packer-green fandom. Playing for any old NFL team would be crime enough to many of his faithful, but playing for a rival like Minnesota or Chicago would be like Johnny Damon spurning the Red Sox for the Yankees. Times five.
Much More (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/07/07/favre/index.html)
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Rodgers, meanwhile, has stirred up controversy himself this week. In a Sports Illustrated article, the quarterback said he didn't need to prove anything to the fans.
"I don't feel I need to sell myself to the fans," he said in the article. "They need to get on board now or keep their mouths shut."
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8306706/Favre-downplays-comeback-talk-as-rumors-swirl
:fuelfire: :fuelfire: :-)
Man, I dunno. I've been listning to the sports shows on the radio and seen bunches of articles on this topic. I like GB well enough and have always loved watching Brett play. I'm as informed as the next guy. I know Favre can still play. I care about the game of football itself and believe GB has some of the best fans in all the wide world of sports. I just don't know what to think about all this or even what to feel. LOL
All that said... if Farve wants to play then just bring him back and play. One more year, two, whatever. Heck, trade Rodgers to Chicago or any other QB desperate team (except the Vikes). Brian Brohm's the real deal IMO and can hold a clipboard as well as anyone. (and has as much potential as Rodgers anyway)
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Rodgers, meanwhile, has stirred up controversy himself this week. In a Sports Illustrated article, the quarterback said he didn't need to prove anything to the fans.
"I don't feel I need to sell myself to the fans," he said in the article. "They need to get on board now or keep their mouths shut."
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8306706/Favre-downplays-comeback-talk-as-rumors-swirl
:fuelfire: :fuelfire: :-)
Man, I dunno. I've been listning to the sports shows on the radio and seen bunches of articles on this topic. I like GB well enough and have always loved watching Brett play. I'm as informed as the next guy. I know Favre can still play. I care about the game of football itself and believe GB has some of the best fans in all the wide world of sports. I just don't know what to think about all this or even what to feel. LOL
All that said... if Farve wants to play then just bring him back and play. One more year, two, whatever. Heck, trade Rodgers to Chicago or any other QB desperate team (except the Vikes). Brian Brohm's the real deal IMO and can hold a clipboard as well as anyone. (and has as much potential as Rodgers anyway)
I thought he was done three years ago. he came back from a 4-12 season to go 8-8, and then 13-3.
I always thought he came back just to silence his critics by turning in a stellar season, and thus quiet all
of the critics that said he couldn't play anymore.
I don't know what to think of this myself. he's obviously ambivalent in the extreme about leaving the game,
as witnessed by the annual "maybe I will, maybe I won't" freaking charade.
I will take another year of brett favre any way that I can get it. the packers would be making a mistake to resist
his attempt to come back - if that is what is really going on here.
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I will take another year of brett favre any way that I can get it. the packers would be making a mistake to resist
his attempt to come back - if that is what is really going on here.
I agree completely. I would love to see Favre's wizardry for a season again.
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I will take another year of brett favre any way that I can get it. the packers would be making a mistake to resist
his attempt to come back - if that is what is really going on here.
I agree completely. I would love to see Favre's wizardry for a season again.
he won three games that I can think of just off the top of my head, on late > 60yd TD passes.
the 80+ yarder against denver in OT was just the icing on the cake.
i would take him back in a skinny minute.
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The Packers' GM is saying that Favre will be taken off the reserve/retired list within the next 10 days.
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The Packers' GM is saying that Favre will be taken off the reserve/retired list within the next 10 days.
Nice. But where did you hear that? I could only find where Brett's agent had said that (googled "Brett Farve news" which was 2 hrs old as of this post) ...
All quiet on Favre front — except the rumors
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+North/Green+Bay/Features/2008/arkush070808.htm
I hope he can play in GB with as little disruption as possible. Also hope they win a lot. It's a shame, for the Packers, that the NFC championship will be in Seattle next year. :p
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The Packers' GM is saying that Favre will be taken off the reserve/retired list within the next 10 days.
Nice. But where did you hear that? I could only find where Brett's agent had said that (googled "Brett Farve news" which was 2 hrs old as of this post) ...
All quiet on Favre front — except the rumors
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+North/Green+Bay/Features/2008/arkush070808.htm
I hope he can play in GB with as little disruption as possible. Also hope they win a lot. It's a shame, for the Packers, that the NFC championship will be in Seattle next year. :p
It was on ESPN News a couple of hours ago. Michael Kim is the one who said it.
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The Packers' GM is saying that Favre will be taken off the reserve/retired list within the next 10 days.
Nice. But where did you hear that? I could only find where Brett's agent had said that (googled "Brett Farve news" which was 2 hrs old as of this post) ...
All quiet on Favre front — except the rumors
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+North/Green+Bay/Features/2008/arkush070808.htm
I hope he can play in GB with as little disruption as possible. Also hope they win a lot. It's a shame, for the Packers, that the NFC championship will be in Seattle next year. :p
It was on ESPN News a couple of hours ago. Michael Kim is the one who said it.
Cool. H5 for the heads up. I really don't know exactly what that means though I hope it means Favre will be in GB. (just can't see him in another uni)(minus Falcons, the early years, lol)
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my guess is, if Faverer comes back, it won't be for the PACKERS...
the pack can get alot of money for brett (still has something left on contract I think) ....
and favre has proven , basically since the last superbowl he was in, that he was a one hit wonder in BIG games...
so I'd say he's definitly expendable for the packers & it would be the packs best move...
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my guess is, if Faverer comes back, it won't be for the PACKERS...
the pack can get alot of money for brett (still has something left on contract I think) ....
and favre has proven , basically since the last superbowl he was in, that he was a one hit wonder in BIG games...
so I'd say he's definitly expendable for the packers & it would be the packs best move...
stick to the bares, dood, where you may know something. it turns out YOU are the "one hit wonder". :whatever: :-)
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my guess is, if Faverer comes back, it won't be for the PACKERS...
the pack can get alot of money for brett (still has something left on contract I think) ....
and favre has proven , basically since the last superbowl he was in, that he was a one hit wonder in BIG games...
so I'd say he's definitly expendable for the packers & it would be the packs best move...
stick to the bares, dood, where you may know something. it turns out YOU are the "one hit wonder". :whatever: :-)
you need to watch the re- runs of Favre vs. Elway back in 98' was it ??
NFL network had them on alot lately...
favre SUCKED in that SB & I haven't seen him play great in important games in a looooooooong time...
how did favre perform in the 2 biggest games of last season ? (cowboys game for 1st place & NFC championship against the giants ??) ...
favre needs to get out of the packs way ....he's holding them back if a superbowl & a future is what they are looking for...
QB controversy is the DEATH of any team (thats where my Bares background comes into play eh?? :lmao:)
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my guess is, if Faverer comes back, it won't be for the PACKERS...
the pack can get alot of money for brett (still has something left on contract I think) ....
and favre has proven , basically since the last superbowl he was in, that he was a one hit wonder in BIG games...
so I'd say he's definitly expendable for the packers & it would be the packs best move...
stick to the bares, dood, where you may know something. it turns out YOU are the "one hit wonder". :whatever: :-)
you need to watch the re- runs of Favre vs. Elway back in 98' was it ??
NFL network had them on alot lately...
favre SUCKED in that SB & I haven't seen him play great in important games in a looooooooong time...
how did favre perform in the 2 biggest games of last season ? (cowboys game for 1st place & NFC championship against the giants ??) ...
favre needs to get out the packs way ....he's holding them back if a superbowl & a future is what they are looking for...
I don't have to watch it on the re-runs, I remember the game vividly. and I have watched every GB game since
satellite TV was available commercially without having to nail a swimming pool sized satellite dish to the roof of your
house.
GB lost the game because terrell davis shredded the GB defense for something like 160 yeards and 3 TDs.
favre threw for a perfectly respectable 260 yards or so, with a TD and a pick. elway threw for a buck-25
(or so) and a pick, so don't act like QB play was the deciding factor in that game.
oh, and mike holmgren forgetting what down it was on the goal line and laying down for a touchdown late
in the game didn't help.
don't mess with me on packers shit, JCC. I'll hurt you. :-)
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JCC just can't stand it because the bares have started about 80 worthless QBs during the favre era. :whatever:
if he was honest, he would admit that he would suck an orange through a garden hose if he could have favre
NEXT year.
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if you believe the buzz, it's looking more and more likely. favre's brother, who has predicted that he would retire every year in the passt five years except this one :whatever:, says it's 50-50. more buzz here (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=432950) and here (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8092e064&template=with-video&confirm=true).
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JCC just can't stand it because the bares have started about 80 worthless QBs during the favre era. :whatever:
if he was honest, he would admit that he would suck an orange through a garden hose if he could have favre
NEXT year.
yeah, I'd take Favre if the price was right...
sure...
but no way I could do what you do after a few six packs every weekend :rotf:...
but, my point wasn't to badmouth favre....he's GREAT & i enjoy watching him...
my point is to say he is no longer the answer for GB ....
the money GB could get for favre & the release of the ball & chain would be the best option for GB...
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my guess is, if Faverer comes back, it won't be for the PACKERS...
the pack can get alot of money for brett (still has something left on contract I think) ....
and favre has proven , basically since the last superbowl he was in, that he was a one hit wonder in BIG games...
so I'd say he's definitly expendable for the packers & it would be the packs best move...
stick to the bares, dood, where you may know something. it turns out YOU are the "one hit wonder". :whatever: :-)
you need to watch the re- runs of Favre vs. Elway back in 98' was it ??
NFL network had them on alot lately...
favre SUCKED in that SB & I haven't seen him play great in important games in a looooooooong time...
how did favre perform in the 2 biggest games of last season ? (cowboys game for 1st place & NFC championship against the giants ??) ...
favre needs to get out the packs way ....he's holding them back if a superbowl & a future is what they are looking for...
I don't have to watch it on the re-runs, I remember the game vividly. and I have watched every GB game since
satellite TV was available commercially without having to nail a swimming pool sized satellite dish to the roof of your
house.
GB lost the game because terrell davis shredded the GB defense for something like 160 yeards and 3 TDs.
favre threw for a perfectly respectable 260 yards or so, with a TD and a pick. elway threw for a buck-25
(or so) and a pick, so don't act like QB play was the deciding factor in that game.
oh, and mike holmgren forgetting what down it was on the goal line and laying down for a touchdown late
in the game didn't help.
don't mess with me on packers shit, JCC. I'll hurt you. :-)
yeah, Favre hit fergusson out on the flat all day long...
but, he MISSED a WIDE OPEN FREEMAN in the 4th quarter . blew an easy 7 points & gave the broncos the ball back at midfield where they summarily capped the game off...
favre got HIS yards, but, he never really 'controlled' the game, therefore not giving TD a chance to run up those huge holes his great Oline cleared for him...
hey, how many yards did favre throw for against the cowboys & giants last season :tongue:
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my guess is, if Faverer comes back, it won't be for the PACKERS...
the pack can get alot of money for brett (still has something left on contract I think) ....
and favre has proven , basically since the last superbowl he was in, that he was a one hit wonder in BIG games...
so I'd say he's definitly expendable for the packers & it would be the packs best move...
stick to the bares, dood, where you may know something. it turns out YOU are the "one hit wonder". :whatever: :-)
you need to watch the re- runs of Favre vs. Elway back in 98' was it ??
NFL network had them on alot lately...
favre SUCKED in that SB & I haven't seen him play great in important games in a looooooooong time...
how did favre perform in the 2 biggest games of last season ? (cowboys game for 1st place & NFC championship against the giants ??) ...
favre needs to get out the packs way ....he's holding them back if a superbowl & a future is what they are looking for...
I don't have to watch it on the re-runs, I remember the game vividly. and I have watched every GB game since
satellite TV was available commercially without having to nail a swimming pool sized satellite dish to the roof of your
house.
GB lost the game because terrell davis shredded the GB defense for something like 160 yeards and 3 TDs.
favre threw for a perfectly respectable 260 yards or so, with a TD and a pick. elway threw for a buck-25
(or so) and a pick, so don't act like QB play was the deciding factor in that game.
oh, and mike holmgren forgetting what down it was on the goal line and laying down for a touchdown late
in the game didn't help.
don't mess with me on packers shit, JCC. I'll hurt you. :-)
yeah, Favre hit fergusson out on the flat all day long...
but, he MISSED a WIDE OPEN FREEMAN in the 4th quarter . blew an easy 7 points & gave the broncos the ball back at midfield where they summarily capped the game off...
favre got HIS yards, but, he never really 'controlled' the game, therefore not giving TD a chance to run up those huge holes his great Oline cleared for him...
hey, how many yards did favre throw for against the cowboys & giants last season :tongue:
I'm sorry, I was wrong. all three of GBs TDs were favre passes in SB XXII. do you realize how retarded it sounds to claim that
260 yards through the air is somehow "greedy" and ineffectual? GB and Den had the same number of first downs, dood. Den
ruled ToP because terrell davis was a monster in that game. and he hit freeman all day long in that SB. missing him once when,
if memory serves, there was pressure in the pocket and confusion on the route is hardly the washed up has been that can't win
a big game that you are attempting to make him out to be.
and how it is favre's fault that davis had a great game is a complete mystery to me. when you avg over 5 yards a rush,
you are going to get your touches, irrespective of what happens on the other side of the ball.
and do you mean the first game against the giants, were green bay romped, or the second, when it was 3 degrees
below zero? it sorta matters. and he got knocked out the cowboys game.
this is just a ridiculous argument. :whatever: denver just outplayed GB on both sides of the ball. I suggest that you blame
SB XXXII on the neocons. it would make a little more sense. :-)
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jeeez. I never thought this would happen . . . .
Favre asks for unconditional release from Packers, sources say (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521)
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jeeez. I never thought this would happen . . . .
Favre asks for unconditional release from Packers, sources say (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521)
Damn.
:o :o :o
Say it ain't so...
And now begins the speculation. Where will Favre go? And who could use him?
- Close to his Mississippi home? (Houston, TB, Miami or back to Atlanta)
- Division rival? (Lions and Vikings and Bears, oh my!)
- QB needy wildcard? (49ers, Jets, Chiefs or Bills)
Oy. Farve in another color jersey will be a sad sight IMHO. But I'll watch him.
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jeeez. I never thought this would happen . . . .
Favre asks for unconditional release from Packers, sources say (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521)
Damn.
:o :o :o
Say it ain't so...
And now begins the speculation. Where will Favre go? And who could use him?
- Close to his Mississippi home? (Houston, TB, Miami or back to Atlanta)
- Division rival? (Lions and Vikings and Bears, oh my!)
- QB needy wildcard? (49ers, Jets, Chiefs or Bills)
Oy. Farve in another color jersey will be a sad sight IMHO. But I'll watch him.
I would say somewhere FAR, FAR AWAY from the division....
miami?
atlanta??
tampa?
somewhere he can play another season & 1/2 ??
san fran ??
oakland ??
texans ??
KC ?
to trade him to a division rival would be a SIN that packer fans would never forget ....
favre's legacy would also be tarnished if he ended up playing for da bears , vikes or lions (all 3 need QB's more than just about anyone in the league too)
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favre's legacy would also be tarnished if he ended up playing for da bears , vikes or lions (all 3 need QB's more than just about anyone in the league too)
I agree on both counts. (Brett's legacy and on QB needs)
However, I think that only on the Vikings would Favre be deadly to the Pack and a true Super Bowl threat. While all three GB rivals badly need QB help, the Vikes are the only team that only needs QB help.
Well the Vikes and maybe the Packers, LOL. There is still a good chance (30-40%?) that Rodgers will come out and totaly suck. GB grabbed Brian Brohm for a reason.
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it is being confirmed by local sources in GB as well.
jeez. I just can't express how much I hate this. #4 wants to come back, but the
pack doesn't want him. that just staggers the imagination. I can't imagine him playing
in another uniform.
I understand the team's positon; the annual drama for the past three or four years
had to be getting old. it's a high risk decision either way for the packers.
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favre's legacy would also be tarnished if he ended up playing for da bears , vikes or lions (all 3 need QB's more than just about anyone in the league too)
I agree on both counts. (Brett's legacy and on QB needs)
However, I think that only on the Vikings would Favre be deadly to the Pack and a true Super Bowl threat. While all three GB rivals badly need QB help, the Vikes are the only team that only needs QB help.
Well the Vikes and maybe the Packers, LOL. There is still a good chance (30-40%?) that Rodgers will come out and totaly suck. GB grabbed Brian Brohm for a reason.
it has to be a similar system. the WCO isn't always the same WCO offense anymore; the variations are pretty
extreme.
I would hate to be the packers if he stays in the division. a pissed off brett favre isn't something you want on
the other sideline.
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favre's legacy would also be tarnished if he ended up playing for da bears , vikes or lions (all 3 need QB's more than just about anyone in the league too)
I agree on both counts. (Brett's legacy and on QB needs)
However, I think that only on the Vikings would Favre be deadly to the Pack and a true Super Bowl threat. While all three GB rivals badly need QB help, the Vikes are the only team that only needs QB help.
Well the Vikes and maybe the Packers, LOL. There is still a good chance (30-40%?) that Rodgers will come out and totaly suck. GB grabbed Brian Brohm for a reason.
it has to be a similar system. the WCO isn't always the same WCO offense anymore; the variations are pretty
extreme.
I would hate to be the packers if he stays in the division. a pissed off brett favre isn't something you want on
the other sideline.
That's true about the WCO but the Vikes don't need their QB to be superman. With that O-line and AP in the backfield, all the QB has to do is keep the D honest. Givin all day to throw, Brett can do that and more in any WCO.
Holmgren's version of the WCO is as complex as any but a Holmy/Favre reunion would almost be tolerable if it was each guys last year. However, I don't think Favre could beat out Hasselbeck for the job. That and I hate hate hate the idea of Favre anywhere but GB, let alone with "my" Seaahawks. Also, fwiw, Franco Harris, Warren Moon and Jerry Rice all ended great careers with crappy season(s) in Seattle so why not Brett too? (sigh) :(
Sidenote:
I hate the term "WCO". Unless one means "Walsh Copied Out-the-a$$". Just wanted that on the record. :-)
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the packer's official statement (http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/07/11/1/) seems to imply that if he comes back, he would be rogers' backup . . . or at least, that is my initial, and admittedly overly anguished, take on it.
The Green Bay Packers are aware of the latest developments regarding Brett Favre.
Brett earned and exercised the right to retire on his terms. We wanted him to return and welcomed him back on more than one occasion.
Brett's press conference and subsequent conversations in the following weeks illustrated his commitment to retirement.
The finality of his decision to retire was accepted by the organization. At that point, the Green Bay Packers made the commitment to move forward with our football team.
As a retired player, Brett has the option to apply for reinstatement with Commissioner Goodell. If that were to occur, he would become an active member of the Green Bay Packers. As always, the Packers will do what's right and in the best interest of the team.
As with all Packers greats, Brett's legacy will always be celebrated by our fans and the organization, regardless of any change in his personal intentions.
Brett and Deanna will always be a part of the Packers family.
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sigh.
no, it looks like I read it right (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8335678/Sources:-Packers-won't-release-Favre).
The Packers legend asked the team for his unconditional release on Friday, but the organization has no intention of granting that request, FOXSports.com has learned. If anything, sources say, the team is prepared to welcome Favre back as a backup to Aaron Rodgers.
how . . . . unsettling. :(
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sigh.
no, it looks like I read it right (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8335678/Sources:-Packers-won't-release-Favre).
The Packers legend asked the team for his unconditional release on Friday, but the organization has no intention of granting that request, FOXSports.com has learned. If anything, sources say, the team is prepared to welcome Favre back as a backup to Aaron Rodgers.
how . . . . unsettling. :(
WTH?
A 12 million dollar backup? :thatsright:
Put him on a short leash but the man has earned a starting role. At the very very least let them fight it out in camp and earn the spot back. ( I'd wager he wins it) sheesh
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This is confusing as all hell. On one side, the Pack want to welcome Favre back, on another side it says they've "moved on". Shit, I think it's harder for us hardcore PackerBackers. We went through 6 months of coping and moving on already and reluctantly accepting that the NFL was going to stand for the No Favre League. But now ya got this back and forth between Favre and the Green Bay organization. If ya look on the front page of Packers News]http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage]Packers News (http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage), you'll see the cluster**** of mix ups there. I just don't get it.
It'd tear me apart to see Favre not play for the green and gold, but I'd still catch the games he does play to get another sight of such wizardry on the gridiron.
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the plot thickens . . . .
Packers GM, coach say team won't release Favre despite request (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3484473)
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sigh.
no, it looks like I read it right (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8335678/Sources:-Packers-won't-release-Favre).
The Packers legend asked the team for his unconditional release on Friday, but the organization has no intention of granting that request, FOXSports.com has learned. If anything, sources say, the team is prepared to welcome Favre back as a backup to Aaron Rodgers.
how . . . . unsettling. :(
WTH?
A 12 million dollar backup? :thatsright:
Put him on a short leash but the man has earned a starting role. At the very very least let them fight it out in camp and earn the spot back. ( I'd wager he wins it) sheesh
if he shows up in camp, there is no way he doesn't win the job.
he won 13 games, threw for almost 4,200 yards and 28 TDs last year. it was one of his best statistical years ever, and THAT is really saying something, considering who we are talking about.
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sigh.
no, it looks like I read it right (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8335678/Sources:-Packers-won't-release-Favre).
The Packers legend asked the team for his unconditional release on Friday, but the organization has no intention of granting that request, FOXSports.com has learned. If anything, sources say, the team is prepared to welcome Favre back as a backup to Aaron Rodgers.
how . . . . unsettling. :(
WTH?
A 12 million dollar backup? :thatsright:
Put him on a short leash but the man has earned a starting role. At the very very least let them fight it out in camp and earn the spot back. ( I'd wager he wins it) sheesh
if he shows up in camp, there is no way he doesn't win the job.
he won 13 games, threw for almost 4,200 yards and 28 TDs last year. it was one of his best statistical years ever, and THAT is really saying something, considering who we are talking about.
No doubt man. I think his completion percentage was way up there too. But anyway, since we are on the record as being in agreement here, let me ask you a different question all together...
... Would you draft Favre as your fantasy football QB if the draft were held today?
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sigh.
no, it looks like I read it right (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8335678/Sources:-Packers-won't-release-Favre).
The Packers legend asked the team for his unconditional release on Friday, but the organization has no intention of granting that request, FOXSports.com has learned. If anything, sources say, the team is prepared to welcome Favre back as a backup to Aaron Rodgers.
how . . . . unsettling. :(
WTH?
A 12 million dollar backup? :thatsright:
Put him on a short leash but the man has earned a starting role. At the very very least let them fight it out in camp and earn the spot back. ( I'd wager he wins it) sheesh
if he shows up in camp, there is no way he doesn't win the job.
he won 13 games, threw for almost 4,200 yards and 28 TDs last year. it was one of his best statistical years ever, and THAT is really saying something, considering who we are talking about.
No doubt man. I think his completion percentage was way up there too. But anyway, since we are on the record as being in agreement here, let me ask you a different question all together...
... Would you draft Favre as your fantasy football QB if the draft were held today?
considering the fact that the most likely scenario is that he applies for reinstatement, is accepted, and languishes all season
as aaron roger's backup? no.
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sigh.
no, it looks like I read it right (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8335678/Sources:-Packers-won't-release-Favre).
The Packers legend asked the team for his unconditional release on Friday, but the organization has no intention of granting that request, FOXSports.com has learned. If anything, sources say, the team is prepared to welcome Favre back as a backup to Aaron Rodgers.
how . . . . unsettling. :(
WTH?
A 12 million dollar backup? :thatsright:
Put him on a short leash but the man has earned a starting role. At the very very least let them fight it out in camp and earn the spot back. ( I'd wager he wins it) sheesh
I wouldn't blame the Packers either way. Fact is, they drafted 2 QB's because of Favre's retirement. They really do need to move on. If Favre comes back and decides to stay another couple years, the steal of the draft a couple years ago, Aaron Rogers, will never have gotten a chance. What if he goes on to great things somewhere else, Chicago, Minnesota, or Detroit? Brett sealed his own fate by retiring, now he has to play with the hand he dealt himself. I think the best thing to do is release him, with the condition he not play for a division rival, a la Joe Montana. Favre gets to play, and the Packers get to move on (they've been held hostage during the offseason long enough).
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Favre goes to the Vikings. The Vikings get moved to New Jersey. The Vikings win a Super Bowl. :evillaugh:
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sigh.
no, it looks like I read it right (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8335678/Sources:-Packers-won't-release-Favre).
The Packers legend asked the team for his unconditional release on Friday, but the organization has no intention of granting that request, FOXSports.com has learned. If anything, sources say, the team is prepared to welcome Favre back as a backup to Aaron Rodgers.
how . . . . unsettling. :(
WTH?
A 12 million dollar backup? :thatsright:
Put him on a short leash but the man has earned a starting role. At the very very least let them fight it out in camp and earn the spot back. ( I'd wager he wins it) sheesh
I wouldn't blame the Packers either way. Fact is, they drafted 2 QB's because of Favre's retirement. They really do need to move on. If Favre comes back and decides to stay another couple years, the steal of the draft a couple years ago, Aaron Rogers, will never have gotten a chance. What if he goes on to great things somewhere else, Chicago, Minnesota, or Detroit? Brett sealed his own fate by retiring, now he has to play with the hand he dealt himself. I think the best thing to do is release him, with the condition he not play for a division rival, a la Joe Montana. Favre gets to play, and the Packers get to move on (they've been held hostage during the offseason long enough).
I would say the fact that they drafted 2 QB's says a lot more about Rodgers than it does about Favre. Brian Brohm, a second round pick, was brought in to compete with Rodgers right away, not to groom for the future. Rodgers may well have fallen in that draft for good reason. (I don't "know" that but who does?) As to the division rivals do you think Favre could be worse than any of those starting QB's, LOL? Fact is, Brertt Favre will be the best QB in GB if the team gets out of his way. Brett is not Joe Montana or Rice or E. Smith even if he has, sadly, gone diva.
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sigh.
no, it looks like I read it right (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8335678/Sources:-Packers-won't-release-Favre).
The Packers legend asked the team for his unconditional release on Friday, but the organization has no intention of granting that request, FOXSports.com has learned. If anything, sources say, the team is prepared to welcome Favre back as a backup to Aaron Rodgers.
how . . . . unsettling. :(
WTH?
A 12 million dollar backup? :thatsright:
Put him on a short leash but the man has earned a starting role. At the very very least let them fight it out in camp and earn the spot back. ( I'd wager he wins it) sheesh
I wouldn't blame the Packers either way. Fact is, they drafted 2 QB's because of Favre's retirement. They really do need to move on. If Favre comes back and decides to stay another couple years, the steal of the draft a couple years ago, Aaron Rogers, will never have gotten a chance. What if he goes on to great things somewhere else, Chicago, Minnesota, or Detroit? Brett sealed his own fate by retiring, now he has to play with the hand he dealt himself. I think the best thing to do is release him, with the condition he not play for a division rival, a la Joe Montana. Favre gets to play, and the Packers get to move on (they've been held hostage during the offseason long enough).
I would say the fact that they drafted 2 QB's says a lot more about Rodgers than it does about Favre. Brian Brohm, a second round pick, was brought in to compete with Rodgers right away, not to groom for the future. Rodgers may well have fallen in that draft for good reason. (I don't "know" that but who does?) As to the division rivals do you think Favre could be worse than any of those starting QB's, LOL? Fact is, Brertt Favre will be the best QB in GB if the team gets out of his way. Brett is not Joe Montana or Rice or E. Smith even if he has, sadly, gone diva.
Do you think they would have drafted those QB's if Favre hadn't retired? I don't think they could have passed on Brohm, who I thought was the best QB in the draft, but whoever the other one was wouldn't have been drafted. If Favre does come back and get his starting job back, this is the last year of Rodgers contract, I think. What are the odds of him re signing if that is the case? Brett is 39 years old, his last two seasons were horrible and I don't see that team catching lightning in a bottle twice. Which Favre would we see, last years great season, the two horrible ones before, or somewhere in the middle?
I don't think there is a wrong answer for Green Bay. I also don't think there is a right answer. Brett has put the organization in a bad, bad position.
If I quit my job today, and they move on and hire someone else for my position, even if that person isn't as good at my job as I am, should I be able to walk back in and take my job back?
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Favre to Fox News: Packers should let me play elsewhere (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775).
uh, oh. things start to get personal in the second part of this interview. if there isn't some gigantic :kumbaya: moment in the next few days, there is no way he is going back. that smell in the air is lighter fluid being applied to brett's bridges back to green bay.
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Favre to Fox News: Packers should let me play elsewhere (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775).
uh, oh. things start to get personal in the second part of this interview. if there isn't some gigantic :kumbaya: moment in the next few days, there is no way he is going back. that smell in the air is lighter fluid being applied to brett's bridges back to green bay.
And that sound that sounds like linen ripping is the battalion eight going overhead to make sure those bridges are gone . . .
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Favre to Fox News: Packers should let me play elsewhere (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775).
uh, oh. things start to get personal in the second part of this interview. if there isn't some gigantic :kumbaya: moment in the next few days, there is no way he is going back. that smell in the air is lighter fluid being applied to brett's bridges back to green bay.
What alot of athletes and fans tend to forget is that these ballplayers are employees. Brett Favre was an employee of the Green Bay Packers. He retired, they made the moves that were in their best interest to carry on the business. He is not entitled to anything from them, short of a ceremony retiring his jersey. The organization needs to do what's best for the future of their franchise.
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Favre to Fox News: Packers should let me play elsewhere (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775).
uh, oh. things start to get personal in the second part of this interview. if there isn't some gigantic :kumbaya: moment in the next few days, there is no way he is going back. that smell in the air is lighter fluid being applied to brett's bridges back to green bay.
What alot of athletes and fans tend to forget is that these ballplayers are employees. Brett Favre was an employee of the Green Bay Packers. He retired, they made the moves that were in their best interest to carry on the business. He is not entitled to anything from them, short of a ceremony retiring his jersey. The organization needs to do what's best for the future of their franchise.
well, i haven't forgotten it, i just don't think it's particularly enlightening to attempt to make sense of this sort of
situation using strictly an employee/employer perspective. it's a great deal more complicated than that.
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Favre to Fox News: Packers should let me play elsewhere (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775).
uh, oh. things start to get personal in the second part of this interview. if there isn't some gigantic :kumbaya: moment in the next few days, there is no way he is going back. that smell in the air is lighter fluid being applied to brett's bridges back to green bay.
And that sound that sounds like linen ripping is the battalion eight going overhead to make sure those bridges are gone . . .
yeah, it done got personal now.
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Favre to Fox News: Packers should let me play elsewhere (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775).
uh, oh. things start to get personal in the second part of this interview. if there isn't some gigantic :kumbaya: moment in the next few days, there is no way he is going back. that smell in the air is lighter fluid being applied to brett's bridges back to green bay.
What alot of athletes and fans tend to forget is that these ballplayers are employees. Brett Favre was an employee of the Green Bay Packers. He retired, they made the moves that were in their best interest to carry on the business. He is not entitled to anything from them, short of a ceremony retiring his jersey. The organization needs to do what's best for the future of their franchise.
well, i haven't forgotten it, i just don't think it's particularly enlightening to attempt to make sense of this sort of
situation using strictly an employee/employer perspective. it's a great deal more complicated than that.
I would be more inclined to feel for Favre, who I've always liked, if we hadn't played the "Am I retiring game" for the last couple of offseasons.
On edit: I wasn't saying you forgot. I'm was talking about 49% on ESPN SportsNation saying they should just release him to go play wherever he wants.
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Favre to Fox News: Packers should let me play elsewhere (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775).
uh, oh. things start to get personal in the second part of this interview. if there isn't some gigantic :kumbaya: moment in the next few days, there is no way he is going back. that smell in the air is lighter fluid being applied to brett's bridges back to green bay.
What alot of athletes and fans tend to forget is that these ballplayers are employees. Brett Favre was an employee of the Green Bay Packers. He retired, they made the moves that were in their best interest to carry on the business. He is not entitled to anything from them, short of a ceremony retiring his jersey. The organization needs to do what's best for the future of their franchise.
well, i haven't forgotten it, i just don't think it's particularly enlightening to attempt to make sense of this sort of
situation using strictly an employee/employer perspective. it's a great deal more complicated than that.
I would be more inclined to feel for Favre, who I've always liked, if we hadn't played the "Am I retiring game" for the last couple of offseasons.
I'm certainly on the "bring him come back" side of the argument, but it's because I think green bay would be a much
better team with him, drama queen antics notwithstanding. of course, that sort of prognostication is immune to
being proved logically, so it's pretty much a crap shoot.
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Favre to Fox News: Packers should let me play elsewhere (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775).
uh, oh. things start to get personal in the second part of this interview. if there isn't some gigantic :kumbaya: moment in the next few days, there is no way he is going back. that smell in the air is lighter fluid being applied to brett's bridges back to green bay.
What alot of athletes and fans tend to forget is that these ballplayers are employees. Brett Favre was an employee of the Green Bay Packers. He retired, they made the moves that were in their best interest to carry on the business. He is not entitled to anything from them, short of a ceremony retiring his jersey. The organization needs to do what's best for the future of their franchise.
well, i haven't forgotten it, i just don't think it's particularly enlightening to attempt to make sense of this sort of
situation using strictly an employee/employer perspective. it's a great deal more complicated than that.
I would be more inclined to feel for Favre, who I've always liked, if we hadn't played the "Am I retiring game" for the last couple of offseasons.
I'm certainly on the "bring him come back" side of the argument, but it's because I think green bay would be a much
better team with him, drama queen antics notwithstanding. of course, that sort of prognostication is immune to
being proved logically, so it's pretty much a crap shoot.
If I thought they could make a legitimate run to the Super Bowl, which I don't, I'd say bring him back. If he's gonna come back and lead them to a 10-6 season and an early playoff exit, which is what I see, why not go ahead with Aaron Rodgers/Brian Brohm. Why cost yourself your "QB of the future" for one more mediocre season? If they leave Aaron riding shotgun again, especially after getting to hold the keys, he'll be playing somewhere else next season. Then what? It would be nice to Favre give it one more go, but they could possibly be setting the team back a couple years by doing so.
As I said earlier in this thread. There's no wrong answer for the Packers, but unfortunately, there's no right answer either.
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green bay may actually have a bigger problem than whatever may happen with favre . . . their RB ryan grant is holding
out. the key difference in GB being 13-3 and being 8-8, and 4-12, for that matter, was ryan grant.
I think that sort of difference in performance level would be true regardless of who is QB.
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Favre to Fox News: Packers should let me play elsewhere (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775).
uh, oh. things start to get personal in the second part of this interview. if there isn't some gigantic :kumbaya: moment in the next few days, there is no way he is going back. that smell in the air is lighter fluid being applied to brett's bridges back to green bay.
What alot of athletes and fans tend to forget is that these ballplayers are employees. Brett Favre was an employee of the Green Bay Packers. He retired, they made the moves that were in their best interest to carry on the business. He is not entitled to anything from them, short of a ceremony retiring his jersey. The organization needs to do what's best for the future of their franchise.
well, i haven't forgotten it, i just don't think it's particularly enlightening to attempt to make sense of this sort of
situation using strictly an employee/employer perspective. it's a great deal more complicated than that.
I would be more inclined to feel for Favre, who I've always liked, if we hadn't played the "Am I retiring game" for the last couple of offseasons.
I'm certainly on the "bring him come back" side of the argument, but it's because I think green bay would be a much
better team with him, drama queen antics notwithstanding. of course, that sort of prognostication is immune to
being proved logically, so it's pretty much a crap shoot.
If I thought they could make a legitimate run to the Super Bowl, which I don't, I'd say bring him back. If he's gonna come back and lead them to a 10-6 season and an early playoff exit, which is what I see, why not go ahead with Aaron Rodgers/Brian Brohm. Why cost yourself your "QB of the future" for one more mediocre season? If they leave Aaron riding shotgun again, especially after getting to hold the keys, he'll be playing somewhere else next season. Then what? It would be nice to Favre give it one more go, but they could possibly be setting the team back a couple years by doing so.
As I said earlier in this thread. There's no wrong answer for the Packers, but unfortunately, there's no right answer either.
well, I am personally of the opinion that there is no such thing as a "QB of the future" until he has proven that he is
the "QB of the present". rodgers has completed 35 passes in his career. the only thing that can really be said about
his NFL credentials is that he looked pretty good in a fill in role for a half against dallas. that's really not too much to hang
your hat on.
his contract is up at the end of next season, true, but his best chance at stepping into an instant starter role is still
going to be with GB at that point. as for going to another team . . . how much demand is there for a QB with 35
career completions, and would be starting over in a brand new system?
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Favre to Fox News: Packers should let me play elsewhere (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775).
uh, oh. things start to get personal in the second part of this interview. if there isn't some gigantic :kumbaya: moment in the next few days, there is no way he is going back. that smell in the air is lighter fluid being applied to brett's bridges back to green bay.
What alot of athletes and fans tend to forget is that these ballplayers are employees. Brett Favre was an employee of the Green Bay Packers. He retired, they made the moves that were in their best interest to carry on the business. He is not entitled to anything from them, short of a ceremony retiring his jersey. The organization needs to do what's best for the future of their franchise.
well, i haven't forgotten it, i just don't think it's particularly enlightening to attempt to make sense of this sort of
situation using strictly an employee/employer perspective. it's a great deal more complicated than that.
I would be more inclined to feel for Favre, who I've always liked, if we hadn't played the "Am I retiring game" for the last couple of offseasons.
I'm certainly on the "bring him come back" side of the argument, but it's because I think green bay would be a much
better team with him, drama queen antics notwithstanding. of course, that sort of prognostication is immune to
being proved logically, so it's pretty much a crap shoot.
If I thought they could make a legitimate run to the Super Bowl, which I don't, I'd say bring him back. If he's gonna come back and lead them to a 10-6 season and an early playoff exit, which is what I see, why not go ahead with Aaron Rodgers/Brian Brohm. Why cost yourself your "QB of the future" for one more mediocre season? If they leave Aaron riding shotgun again, especially after getting to hold the keys, he'll be playing somewhere else next season. Then what? It would be nice to Favre give it one more go, but they could possibly be setting the team back a couple years by doing so.
As I said earlier in this thread. There's no wrong answer for the Packers, but unfortunately, there's no right answer either.
well, I am personally of the opinion that there is no such thing as a "QB of the future" until he has proven that he is
the "QB of the present". rodgers has completed 35 passes in his career. the only thing that can really be said about
his NFL credentials is that he looked pretty good in a fill in role for a half against dallas. that's really not too much to hang
your hat on.
his contract is up at the end of next season, true, but his best chance at stepping into an instant starter role is still
going to be with GB at that point. as for going to another team . . . how much demand is there for a QB with 35
career completions, and would be starting over in a brand new system?
Unless Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit all fill there need, there could be demand in Green Bays own division.
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Do you think they would have drafted those QB's if Favre hadn't retired? I don't think they could have passed on Brohm, who I thought was the best QB in the draft, but whoever the other one was wouldn't have been drafted. If Favre does come back and get his starting job back, this is the last year of Rodgers contract, I think. What are the odds of him re signing if that is the case? Brett is 39 years old, his last two seasons were horrible and I don't see that team catching lightning in a bottle twice. Which Favre would we see, last years great season, the two horrible ones before, or somewhere in the middle?
I don't think there is a wrong answer for Green Bay. I also don't think there is a right answer. Brett has put the organization in a bad, bad position.
If I quit my job today, and they move on and hire someone else for my position, even if that person isn't as good at my job as I am, should I be able to walk back in and take my job back?
That is pretty darn as dead on as a statement can be, lol. :cheersmate:
Of course they would not have grabbed two QB's in the draft if Brett didn't do the retirement two step. But what that showed was a tremendous lack of faith in Rodgers to do the job. I agree Favre really stuck it to management with his goofyness but the team has not comported themselves to greatly either.
IMHO, Favre is/would be the best QB the Packers can put on the field this year. I don't see why GB can't make another strong run at the super bowl. The NFC is a little weaker than the AFC and the Packers division is one of the weakest in the NFL. Green Bay (Brett excepted) is a young, talented and improving team. I think it's worth the risk of loosing Rodgers even if Brett played just one year over finishing his contract. (2 years, I think)
However, all that said it looks like the team really will "move on" from the Favre era. I think it's a mistake but it is their right to do it for sure. Favre does have the leverage to go to any other team he wants to (and who want him) so I expect him to use it in the comming days/weeks.
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another day, another twist in the "brett favre retirement" or not saga. even more ill will simmering beneath the surface in this one: Favre has no definite plans to apply for reinstatement (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3491920)
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favre's legacy would also be tarnished if he ended up playing for da bears , vikes or lions (all 3 need QB's more than just about anyone in the league too)
I agree on both counts. (Brett's legacy and on QB needs)
However, I think that only on the Vikings would Favre be deadly to the Pack and a true Super Bowl threat. While all three GB rivals badly need QB help, the Vikes are the only team that only needs QB help.
Well the Vikes and maybe the Packers, LOL. There is still a good chance (30-40%?) that Rodgers will come out and totaly suck. GB grabbed Brian Brohm for a reason.
it has to be a similar system. the WCO isn't always the same WCO offense anymore; the variations are pretty
extreme.
I would hate to be the packers if he stays in the division. a pissed off brett favre isn't something you want on
the other sideline.
That's true about the WCO but the Vikes don't need their QB to be superman. With that O-line and AP in the backfield, all the QB has to do is keep the D honest. Givin all day to throw, Brett can do that and more in any WCO.
Holmgren's version of the WCO is as complex as any but a Holmy/Favre reunion would almost be tolerable if it was each guys last year. However, I don't think Favre could beat out Hasselbeck for the job. That and I hate hate hate the idea of Favre anywhere but GB, let alone with "my" Seaahawks. Also, fwiw, Franco Harris, Warren Moon and Jerry Rice all ended great careers with crappy season(s) in Seattle so why not Brett too? (sigh) :(
Sidenote:
I hate the term "WCO". Unless one means "Walsh Copied Out-the-a$$". Just wanted that on the record. :-)
exactly why the vikes prolly won't be getting brett favrerer ...
favre has to be the STAR & won't play for anyone that is gonna limit HIS gameplan...
da bears or especially the lions would be a better fit for favre in the NORTE division...
but the viqueens are prolly the best team in that division right now & have the best shot at a SB run...
da bears are gonna have alot of guys fresh again & back from injury, but, last year they showed some SERIOUS baffoonery all across the board & I don't think Lovie or most of their players are SMART enough to win a SB...
bottomline is, favre needs to either stand by his decision to retire from the packers...
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just when you think you have found the bottom of while episode . . . . Report: Green Bay Packers Allege Tampering by Minnesota Vikings Over Brett Favre (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,384562,00.html)
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just when you think you have found the bottom of while episode . . . . Report: Green Bay Packers Allege Tampering by Minnesota Vikings Over Brett Favre (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,384562,00.html)
this means, ain't NO WAY the viqueens will be getting faverer.....
tampering will cost the vikes at least a 1st or 2nd round pick & they still need to BUY favre from the pack...
keep looking brett, the vikes ain't it...
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You know he'd love to be a Viking. A dud under center right now for the Vikes, a good blindside line in Birk, Hutch and McKinney and a young thoroughbred in the TB position to free up receivers and TEs in the 2nd and 3rd level.
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You know he'd love to be a Viking. A dud under center right now for the Vikes, a good blindside line in Birk, Hutch and McKinney and a young thoroughbred in the TB position to free up receivers and TEs in the 2nd and 3rd level.
historically, he has sucked out loud in that dome. and in domes in general, for that matter.
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You know he'd love to be a Viking. A dud under center right now for the Vikes, a good blindside line in Birk, Hutch and McKinney and a young thoroughbred in the TB position to free up receivers and TEs in the 2nd and 3rd level.
historically, he has sucked out loud in that dome. and in domes in general, for that matter.
yep...
and I don't think favres ego would mix well w/ the Vikes headcoach & being that the Vikes already have their 'STAR' ..... favre has been allowed to do as he pleases in GB & that will not be the case in Minn....
ain't no way favres gut would settle for passing the ball 50% of the time, or less....
he wouldn't be happy....
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You know he'd love to be a Viking. A dud under center right now for the Vikes, a good blindside line in Birk, Hutch and McKinney and a young thoroughbred in the TB position to free up receivers and TEs in the 2nd and 3rd level.
historically, he has sucked out loud in that dome. and in domes in general, for that matter.
That Astro-turf at HHM has gone the way of the dodo, though. He would be fine playing on field turf and I'm sure his old joints would hold up on it too.
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You know he'd love to be a Viking. A dud under center right now for the Vikes, a good blindside line in Birk, Hutch and McKinney and a young thoroughbred in the TB position to free up receivers and TEs in the 2nd and 3rd level.
more of a run blocking line....
but you do have a point w/ the TE's.....
favres best weapon back in the SB days was his TE ....
back when I was in high school, I got kicked off the varsity squad because I got caught drinking beer at a party that was deemed 'verboden' by my headcoach.... (ie: soccer not football)
so I tried out for a hotshot 'select' league in dallas & made the team... because of this, I couldn't play in my normal summer league w/ all my friends that I'd played w/ since the 3rd grade
well, in the cotton cup I had to play all my 'old friends' & we whooped their ass...
it was THE WORST FEELING in my life.... I quit the select team at the end of the season ...
I don't know how favre could put on the uniform of his rivals & play against his old team in that division.,..
if he does, I'd say he's a grade A asshole
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You know he'd love to be a Viking. A dud under center right now for the Vikes, a good blindside line in Birk, Hutch and McKinney and a young thoroughbred in the TB position to free up receivers and TEs in the 2nd and 3rd level.
more of a run blocking line....
but you do have a point w/ the TE's.....
favres best weapon back in the SB days was his TE ....
back when I was in high school, I got kicked off the varsity squad because I got caught drinking beer at a party that was deemed 'verboden' by my headcoach.... (ie: soccer not football)
so I tried out for a hotshot 'select' league in dallas & made the team... because of this, I couldn't play in my normal summer league w/ all my friends that I'd played w/ since the 3rd grade
well, in the cotton cup I had to play all my 'old friends' & we whooped their ass...
it was THE WORST FEELING in my life.... I quit the select team at the end of the season ...
I don't know how favre could put on the uniform of his rivals & play against his old team in that division.,..
if he does, I'd say he's a grade A asshole
I don't think GB will cut him loose -- would you?
Anyone old enough to remember the last years of Fred Dryer's career with the Rams? This will be like that.
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You know he'd love to be a Viking. A dud under center right now for the Vikes, a good blindside line in Birk, Hutch and McKinney and a young thoroughbred in the TB position to free up receivers and TEs in the 2nd and 3rd level.
more of a run blocking line....
but you do have a point w/ the TE's.....
favres best weapon back in the SB days was his TE ....
back when I was in high school, I got kicked off the varsity squad because I got caught drinking beer at a party that was deemed 'verboden' by my headcoach.... (ie: soccer not football)
so I tried out for a hotshot 'select' league in dallas & made the team... because of this, I couldn't play in my normal summer league w/ all my friends that I'd played w/ since the 3rd grade
well, in the cotton cup I had to play all my 'old friends' & we whooped their ass...
it was THE WORST FEELING in my life.... I quit the select team at the end of the season ...
I don't know how favre could put on the uniform of his rivals & play against his old team in that division.,..
if he does, I'd say he's a grade A *******
I don't think GB will cut him loose -- would you?
Anyone old enough to remember the last years of Fred Dryer's career with the Rams? This will be like that.
yes...
I absolutely think GB will trade Favre ...
he's worth a few million dollars to them & as everyday wears on, Favre is being made to look like the 'badguy' here, so GB's brass may save some face ....
plus, I pretty well sure the brass was fed up w/ Favre 8 years ago, but, favre filled their seats w/ cheezheads, so they put up with it....
now, w/ favre still being a packer, going back on his 'retirment speech', asking for a trade/ & still wanting to play ..........he's worth $$bling$$ & prolly a draft pick or two ....
bottomline is, if the colts would trade Unitas during the same era the Rams held onto Dryer....I don't see ANY problem w/ GB trading Favre in the era of Montana & Jerry Rice being traded....
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8096f34c&template=with-video&confirm=true
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Packers coach commits to Rodgers as Favre drama continues (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3506282)
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Even Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy isn't quite sure how the Brett Favre unretirement saga will play out over the next few days. But he does know this much: Favre or no Favre, Aaron Rodgers is his starting quarterback.
In his season-opening news conference at Lambeau Field on Saturday, McCarthy strongly affirmed the team's commitment to Rodgers and reiterated that players and coaches spent the offseason planning to move forward after Favre retired in March.
"Aaron Rodgers is the starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers," McCarthy said. "That's been stated over and over again. I hope we can finally understand that. That's where we are as an organization and as a head coach of the Green Bay Packers. I don't know how else to answer that question."
I don't see how in the world you do this . . . maybe they should have given the guy longer to make up his mind. what a disaster.
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Packers coach commits to Rodgers as Favre drama continues (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3506282)
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Even Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy isn't quite sure how the Brett Favre unretirement saga will play out over the next few days. But he does know this much: Favre or no Favre, Aaron Rodgers is his starting quarterback.
In his season-opening news conference at Lambeau Field on Saturday, McCarthy strongly affirmed the team's commitment to Rodgers and reiterated that players and coaches spent the offseason planning to move forward after Favre retired in March.
"Aaron Rodgers is the starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers," McCarthy said. "That's been stated over and over again. I hope we can finally understand that. That's where we are as an organization and as a head coach of the Green Bay Packers. I don't know how else to answer that question."
I don't see how in the world you do this . . . maybe they should have given the guy longer to make up his mind. what a disaster.
longer?
favre has only had about 6 years to think about it...
this isn't the packers fault, its brett favres...
the guy doesn't no when to say when AND he's going back on his WORD....
remember his little retirement address a month ago or so ??
come on WE...favre was great & he's still top notch 'MOST' of the time...
but in 'clutch' games last season & for MANY seasons these past few years, he's been TERRIBLE...
besides, at best, the guy has 1, MAYBE 2 seasons left at the NFL level...so the pack have no choice but to move on ....best to do it while favre still has value & already turned in his notice
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Packers coach commits to Rodgers as Favre drama continues (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3506282)
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Even Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy isn't quite sure how the Brett Favre unretirement saga will play out over the next few days. But he does know this much: Favre or no Favre, Aaron Rodgers is his starting quarterback.
In his season-opening news conference at Lambeau Field on Saturday, McCarthy strongly affirmed the team's commitment to Rodgers and reiterated that players and coaches spent the offseason planning to move forward after Favre retired in March.
"Aaron Rodgers is the starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers," McCarthy said. "That's been stated over and over again. I hope we can finally understand that. That's where we are as an organization and as a head coach of the Green Bay Packers. I don't know how else to answer that question."
I don't see how in the world you do this . . . maybe they should have given the guy longer to make up his mind. what a disaster.
longer?
favre has only had about 6 years to think about it...
this isn't the packers fault, its brett favres...
the guy doesn't no when to say when AND he's going back on his WORD....
remember his little retirement address a month ago or so ??
come on WE...favre was great & he's still top notch 'MOST' of the time...
but in 'clutch' games last season & for MANY seasons these past few years, he's been TERRIBLE...
besides, at best, the guy has 1, MAYBE 2 seasons left at the NFL level...so the pack have no choice but to move on ....best to do it while favre still has value & already turned in his notice
didn't I win this argument two weeks ago? :whatever:
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the saga continues . . .
Packers president meets with Favre and his agent (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iJ4dh7TkvXFMpdKZU9rITbou7jtwD928IQB00)
GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) — Green Bay Packers president Mark Murphy traveled to Mississippi to meet with quarterback Brett Favre and his agent James "Bus" Cook on Wednesday, in an apparent attempt to talk Favre out of reporting to camp later this week.
Meanwhile, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell took no action on Favre's request for reinstatement Wednesday — giving the sides more time to work out a resolution.
"The commissioner is taking no action today," league officials said in a statement issued by NFL spokesman Greg Aiello. "He wants to give both the Packers and Brett an appropriate amount of time to make decisions, including decisions impacting the team's roster and salary cap. When Brett is reinstated by the commissioner, we will announce it."
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The sidelines at Packers practice Wednesday night were buzzing with a question: Did the Packers offer to pay Favre to stay retired?
WTMJ television in Milwaukee reported the team offered Favre several million dollars to stay retired, and the Green Bay Press-Gazette reported on its Web site that the team offered Favre "a substantial salary" to stay away. Both reports cited sources close to Favre.
More (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iJ4dh7TkvXFMpdKZU9rITbou7jtwD928IQB00)
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ryan grant holding out is actually a bigger problem for green bay right now than the favre saga.
Packers RB Grant misses workouts, seeks new contract (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/26015399.html?location_refer=Sports:highlightModules:7)
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ryan grant holding out is actually a bigger problem for green bay right now than the favre saga.
Packers RB Grant misses workouts, seeks new contract (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/26015399.html?location_refer=Sports:highlightModules:7)
I disagree...
grant, a number 5 selection for the giants, who really hasn't proven himself , but now wants 'mo money' ...
lets see what ryan grant does WITHOUT defenses keyed up to stopping brett favres passing game !
any running back can have one great year, especially when their QB sets world passing records that very same season....coicidence ??
remember, grant couldn't even make the giants for christs sake....
he's good, but, he doesn't deserve the big bucks just yet & if I were the Packers management, I would make him a fair offer, but wouldn't pay him the kings ransom until he's productive for at least 1 more season....
the death of ALL teams, is a QB controversy....
and this controversy ain't just an average one, its involving the legendary brett favre....if the media made such a big a deal about wrex/orton/greasy, imagine what they'll do (& are already doing) with favres story....
talk about a MAJOR distraction for the players & coaches (fans too)...
favre = manny ramirez....
which I'm starting to think = BEOTCH :rotf:
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ryan grant holding out is actually a bigger problem for green bay right now than the favre saga.
Packers RB Grant misses workouts, seeks new contract (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/26015399.html?location_refer=Sports:highlightModules:7)
I disagree...
grant, a number 5 selection for the giants, who really hasn't proven himself , but now wants 'mo money' ...
lets see what ryan grant does WITHOUT defenses keyed up to stopping brett favres passing game !
any running back can have one great year, especially when their QB sets world passing records that very same season....coicidence ??
remember, grant couldn't even make the giants for christs sake....
he's good, but, he doesn't deserve the big bucks just yet & if I were the Packers management, I would make him a fair offer, but wouldn't pay him the kings ransom until he's productive for at least 1 more season....
the death of ALL teams, is a QB controversy....
and this controversy ain't just an average one, its involving the legendary brett favre....if the media made such a big a deal about wrex/orton/greasy, imagine what they'll do (& are already doing) with favres story....
talk about a MAJOR distraction for the players & coaches (fans too)...
favre = manny ramirez....
which I'm starting to think = BEOTCH :rotf:
I read most of your post. I stopped when you got more than a light year off anything resembling the point,
and had drug in the 1,000th irrelevant factoid. :-). I have developed, over the course of reading your posts
for years, a specialized JCC filter. :tongue:
I watched every single snap of every single packer game for the past, oh, three years, for sure. and I probably haven't
missed three games since God invented satellite television.
ryan grant gained a thousand yards on very few carries, in what was a very pass-oriented offense, especially early in
the season. he averaged over 5 yards per carry, and THAT is a big deal, PERIOD.
and, if you read my post, you will notice I didn't touch on what he may or may not deserve in terms of compensation, I
merely pointed out that he was holding out, and that his holdout was a bigger deal that the favre drama. it's a foregone
conclusion that favre won't be back, so his ultimate disposition impacts the team very little.
and I can assure you that the difference between 8-8 and 13-3 was ryan grant, irrespective of who would have been QB.
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ryan grant holding out is actually a bigger problem for green bay right now than the favre saga.
Packers RB Grant misses workouts, seeks new contract (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/26015399.html?location_refer=Sports:highlightModules:7)
I disagree...
grant, a number 5 selection for the giants, who really hasn't proven himself , but now wants 'mo money' ...
lets see what ryan grant does WITHOUT defenses keyed up to stopping brett favres passing game !
any running back can have one great year, especially when their QB sets world passing records that very same season....coicidence ??
remember, grant couldn't even make the giants for christs sake....
he's good, but, he doesn't deserve the big bucks just yet & if I were the Packers management, I would make him a fair offer, but wouldn't pay him the kings ransom until he's productive for at least 1 more season....
the death of ALL teams, is a QB controversy....
and this controversy ain't just an average one, its involving the legendary brett favre....if the media made such a big a deal about wrex/orton/greasy, imagine what they'll do (& are already doing) with favres story....
talk about a MAJOR distraction for the players & coaches (fans too)...
favre = manny ramirez....
which I'm starting to think = BEOTCH :rotf:
I read most of your post. I stopped when you got more than a light year off anything resembling the point,
and had drug in the 1,000th irrelevant factoid. :-). I have developed, over the course of reading your posts
for years, a specialized JCC filter. :tongue:
I watched every single snap of every single packer game for the past, oh, three years, for sure. and I probably haven't
missed three games since God invented satellite television.
ryan grant gained a thousand yards on very few carries, in what was a very pass-oriented offense, especially early in
the season. he averaged over 5 yards per carry, and THAT is a big deal, PERIOD.
and, if you read my post, you will notice I didn't touch on what he may or may not deserve in terms of compensation, I
merely pointed out that he was holding out, and that his holdout was a bigger deal that the favre drama. it's a foregone
conclusion that favre won't be back, so his ultimate disposition impacts the team very little.
and I can assure you that the difference between 8-8 and 13-3 was ryan grant, irrespective of who would have been QB.
yes, grant, as do MOST running backs playing for 'pass happy' offenses, have alot of YARDS PER CARRY....
much easier to run against a defense w/ 7 in the box & their pass protect LB's in the game 2 out of 3 downs eh !...
how many yards did grant rush for in the NFC championship, when passing WAS NOT an option ??
michael turner has more yards per carry than does LT
so tell us why the chargers traded Michael Turner ? ...
Timmy Smith set Super Bowl records while rushing for the Deadskins back in the late 1980's...
he got a HUGE contract the following season...
what happened to Timmy Smith ??
who the Fluck is timmy smith ??
yeah, there is your answer :lmao:
ryan grant should get offered alot of cash incentives .... basically, rush for what you did last year & we'll pay you a 1 million dollar bonus...
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ryan grant holding out is actually a bigger problem for green bay right now than the favre saga.
Packers RB Grant misses workouts, seeks new contract (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/26015399.html?location_refer=Sports:highlightModules:7)
I disagree...
grant, a number 5 selection for the giants, who really hasn't proven himself , but now wants 'mo money' ...
lets see what ryan grant does WITHOUT defenses keyed up to stopping brett favres passing game !
any running back can have one great year, especially when their QB sets world passing records that very same season....coicidence ??
remember, grant couldn't even make the giants for christs sake....
he's good, but, he doesn't deserve the big bucks just yet & if I were the Packers management, I would make him a fair offer, but wouldn't pay him the kings ransom until he's productive for at least 1 more season....
the death of ALL teams, is a QB controversy....
and this controversy ain't just an average one, its involving the legendary brett favre....if the media made such a big a deal about wrex/orton/greasy, imagine what they'll do (& are already doing) with favres story....
talk about a MAJOR distraction for the players & coaches (fans too)...
favre = manny ramirez....
which I'm starting to think = BEOTCH :rotf:
I read most of your post. I stopped when you got more than a light year off anything resembling the point,
and had drug in the 1,000th irrelevant factoid. :-). I have developed, over the course of reading your posts
for years, a specialized JCC filter. :tongue:
I watched every single snap of every single packer game for the past, oh, three years, for sure. and I probably haven't
missed three games since God invented satellite television.
ryan grant gained a thousand yards on very few carries, in what was a very pass-oriented offense, especially early in
the season. he averaged over 5 yards per carry, and THAT is a big deal, PERIOD.
and, if you read my post, you will notice I didn't touch on what he may or may not deserve in terms of compensation, I
merely pointed out that he was holding out, and that his holdout was a bigger deal that the favre drama. it's a foregone
conclusion that favre won't be back, so his ultimate disposition impacts the team very little.
and I can assure you that the difference between 8-8 and 13-3 was ryan grant, irrespective of who would have been QB.
yes, grant, as do MOST running backs playing for 'pass happy' offenses, have alot of YARDS PER CARRY....
much easier to run against a defense w/ 7 in the box & their pass protect LB's in the game 2 out of 3 downs eh !...
how many yards did grant rush for in the NFC championship, when passing WAS NOT an option ??
michael turner has more yards per carry than does LT
so tell us why the chargers traded Michael Turner ? ...
Timmy Smith set Super Bowl records while rushing for the Deadskins back in the late 1980's...
he got a HUGE contract the following season...
what happened to Timmy Smith ??
who the Fluck is timmy smith ??
yeah, there is your answer :lmao:
ryan grant should get offered alot of cash incentives .... basically, rush for what you did last year & we'll pay you a 1 million dollar bonus...
<JCC mode>
the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.
if at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
the quick brown fox jumped over the laxy dog.
now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
none of this shit has anything to do with the subject of the thread.
I am going to put stuff in "sneer quotes" because it throws off the apparent meaning of otherwise clearly understood phrases.
I am double spacing for no real reason.
oh, here are some smileys that seem to contradict the spirit of my post. :hyper: :beer: :bs:
I am going to close the reply with a controversial phrase that will totally distract you from up my lack of focus; kiss my ass!
</JCC mode>
you could hardly tell that I actually like JCC, could you? :-)
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ryan grant holding out is actually a bigger problem for green bay right now than the favre saga.
Packers RB Grant misses workouts, seeks new contract (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/26015399.html?location_refer=Sports:highlightModules:7)
I disagree...
grant, a number 5 selection for the giants, who really hasn't proven himself , but now wants 'mo money' ...
lets see what ryan grant does WITHOUT defenses keyed up to stopping brett favres passing game !
any running back can have one great year, especially when their QB sets world passing records that very same season....coicidence ??
remember, grant couldn't even make the giants for christs sake....
he's good, but, he doesn't deserve the big bucks just yet & if I were the Packers management, I would make him a fair offer, but wouldn't pay him the kings ransom until he's productive for at least 1 more season....
the death of ALL teams, is a QB controversy....
and this controversy ain't just an average one, its involving the legendary brett favre....if the media made such a big a deal about wrex/orton/greasy, imagine what they'll do (& are already doing) with favres story....
talk about a MAJOR distraction for the players & coaches (fans too)...
favre = manny ramirez....
which I'm starting to think = BEOTCH :rotf:
I read most of your post. I stopped when you got more than a light year off anything resembling the point,
and had drug in the 1,000th irrelevant factoid. :-). I have developed, over the course of reading your posts
for years, a specialized JCC filter. :tongue:
I watched every single snap of every single packer game for the past, oh, three years, for sure. and I probably haven't
missed three games since God invented satellite television.
ryan grant gained a thousand yards on very few carries, in what was a very pass-oriented offense, especially early in
the season. he averaged over 5 yards per carry, and THAT is a big deal, PERIOD.
and, if you read my post, you will notice I didn't touch on what he may or may not deserve in terms of compensation, I
merely pointed out that he was holding out, and that his holdout was a bigger deal that the favre drama. it's a foregone
conclusion that favre won't be back, so his ultimate disposition impacts the team very little.
and I can assure you that the difference between 8-8 and 13-3 was ryan grant, irrespective of who would have been QB.
yes, grant, as do MOST running backs playing for 'pass happy' offenses, have alot of YARDS PER CARRY....
much easier to run against a defense w/ 7 in the box & their pass protect LB's in the game 2 out of 3 downs eh !...
how many yards did grant rush for in the NFC championship, when passing WAS NOT an option ??
michael turner has more yards per carry than does LT
so tell us why the chargers traded Michael Turner ? ...
Timmy Smith set Super Bowl records while rushing for the Deadskins back in the late 1980's...
he got a HUGE contract the following season...
what happened to Timmy Smith ??
who the Fluck is timmy smith ??
yeah, there is your answer :lmao:
ryan grant should get offered alot of cash incentives .... basically, rush for what you did last year & we'll pay you a 1 million dollar bonus...
<JCC mode>
the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain.
if at first you don't succeed, try, try again.
the quick brown fox jumped over the laxy dog.
now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
none of this shit has anything to do with the subject of the thread.
I am going to put stuff in "sneer quotes" because it throws off the apparent meaning of otherwise clearly understood phrases.
I am double spacing for no real reason.
oh, here are some smileys that seem to contradict the spirit of my post. :hyper: :beer: :bs:
I am going to close the reply with a controversial phrase that will totally distract you from up my lack of focus; kiss my ass!
</JCC mode>
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I'm focused, you obviously are not since you support wishy washy & washed up brett favres decision to F**K UP his former team...
and since you support the whiney 2nd year running back that wants mo money after only 1 season...
this is good news for my Bears.....
looks as thought the packers don't know which way is up right now, thus leaving da bears poised to WHOOP THE PACKS SORRY ASS'S AGAIN ... :evillaugh: :cheersmate:
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I'm focused, you obviously are not since you support wishy washy & washed up brett favres decision to F**K UP his former team...
and since you support the whiney 2nd year running back that wants mo money after only 1 season...
this is good news for my Bears.....
looks as thought the packers don't know which way is up right now, thus leaving da bears poised to WHOOP THE PACKS SORRY ASS'S AGAIN ... :evillaugh: :cheersmate:
my cat's breath smells like cat food.
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I'm focused, you obviously are not since you support wishy washy & washed up brett favres decision to F**K UP his former team...
and since you support the whiney 2nd year running back that wants mo money after only 1 season...
this is good news for my Bears.....
looks as thought the packers don't know which way is up right now, thus leaving da bears poised to WHOOP THE PACKS SORRY ASS'S AGAIN ... :evillaugh: :cheersmate:
my cat's breath smells like cat food.
yes, thats as obvious as the ASS WHOOPING that awaits the pack at soldier field this season :naughty: ...
and its as obvious as the decisions the packs management are making...
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it looks like the packers are going to cave in, and trade favre to either the bears or the vikings . . . . which is pretty much all he wanted in the first place.
Report: Packers consider sending Favre to division rival (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3512348)
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I'm getting so sick of hearing about Brett Favre that I look forward to more news on Obama. I've always liked Brett, but I'm really hoping he falls flat on his face, wherever he lands.
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I'm focused, you obviously are not since you support wishy washy & washed up brett favres decision to F**K UP his former team...
and since you support the whiney 2nd year running back that wants mo money after only 1 season...
this is good news for my Bears.....
looks as thought the packers don't know which way is up right now, thus leaving da bears poised to WHOOP THE PACKS SORRY ASS'S AGAIN ... :evillaugh: :cheersmate:
my cat's breath smells like cat food.
yes, thats as obvious as the ASS WHOOPING that awaits the pack at soldier field this season :naughty: ...
and its as obvious as the decisions the packs management are making...
favre could BE a bear by this weekend. whatcha gotta say 'bout 'dat dere, dood? :-)
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I'm getting so sick of hearing about Brett Favre that I look forward to more news on Obama. I've always liked Brett, but I'm really hoping he falls flat on his face, wherever he lands.
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not if he ends up in chicago you bastard :lmao:
which, most likely, he will :thatsright:
and since the Vikes already have tampering charges filed against them by the pack, it looks as though Da BEARS will be getting FAVERER ?
well, one thing is for sure, he'll be good for a playoff/superbowl choke, thats for sure :lmao:
and he's definitly better than anything da bears have now, so....brang it on !!
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I'm focused, you obviously are not since you support wishy washy & washed up brett favres decision to F**K UP his former team...
and since you support the whiney 2nd year running back that wants mo money after only 1 season...
this is good news for my Bears.....
looks as thought the packers don't know which way is up right now, thus leaving da bears poised to WHOOP THE PACKS SORRY ASS'S AGAIN ... :evillaugh: :cheersmate:
my cat's breath smells like cat food.
yes, thats as obvious as the ASS WHOOPING that awaits the pack at soldier field this season :naughty: ...
and its as obvious as the decisions the packs management are making...
favre could BE a bear by this weekend. whatcha gotta say 'bout 'dat dere, dood? :-)
that the ass whooping the packers are do at soldier field will be much worse than I thought ? :p
one thing is for sure, if faverer ends up in MN or Chitown, he'll be considered a grade d**khead in my book... :loser:
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I'm focused, you obviously are not since you support wishy washy & washed up brett favres decision to F**K UP his former team...
and since you support the whiney 2nd year running back that wants mo money after only 1 season...
this is good news for my Bears.....
looks as thought the packers don't know which way is up right now, thus leaving da bears poised to WHOOP THE PACKS SORRY ASS'S AGAIN ... :evillaugh: :cheersmate:
my cat's breath smells like cat food.
yes, thats as obvious as the ASS WHOOPING that awaits the pack at soldier field this season :naughty: ...
and its as obvious as the decisions the packs management are making...
favre could BE a bear by this weekend. whatcha gotta say 'bout 'dat dere, dood? :-)
that the ass whooping the packers are do at soldier field will be much worse than I thought ? :p
one thing is for sure, if faverer ends up in MN or Chitown, he'll be considered a grade d**khead in my book... :loser:
you would kiss his a$$ from a different time zone to get him into a bear uniform and you know it. :-) when he's 75, he'll
still be better than anything chicago has suited up during his tenure in GB.
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I'm focused, you obviously are not since you support wishy washy & washed up brett favres decision to F**K UP his former team...
and since you support the whiney 2nd year running back that wants mo money after only 1 season...
this is good news for my Bears.....
looks as thought the packers don't know which way is up right now, thus leaving da bears poised to WHOOP THE PACKS SORRY ASS'S AGAIN ... :evillaugh: :cheersmate:
my cat's breath smells like cat food.
yes, thats as obvious as the ASS WHOOPING that awaits the pack at soldier field this season :naughty: ...
and its as obvious as the decisions the packs management are making...
favre could BE a bear by this weekend. whatcha gotta say 'bout 'dat dere, dood? :-)
that the ass whooping the packers are do at soldier field will be much worse than I thought ? :p
one thing is for sure, if faverer ends up in MN or Chitown, he'll be considered a grade d**khead in my book... :loser:
you would kiss his a$$ from a different time zone to get him into a bear uniform and you know it. :-) when he's 75, he'll
still be better than anything chicago has suited up during his tenure in GB.
yeah, he's gonna be better than anything da bears have now & one thing is for sure....
he's gonna bring some BALLS to the QB position, which is exactly what wrex was missing....
too bad for brett he ain't going to the Vikes though....if that went through & favre meshed w/ the vikes offense, that may have been this years SB winner awright...
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Favre could get paid to stay off the field (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080802/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_packers_favre;_ylt=Atuw.qL7tsI2d139VNrBm0sLMxIF)
By CHRIS JENKINS, AP Sports Writer Fri Aug 1, 9:33 PM ET
GREEN BAY, Wis. - Brett Favre's reinstatement to the NFL was held up again Friday as the three-time MVP mulled getting paid not to play through a marketing deal with the Green Bay Packers that could resolve the standoff over his retirement.
The potential agreement, worth a reported $20 million over 10 years, might end Favre's bid to return just months after retiring. It also would likely keep him from reporting to Packers training camp and a team that is not planning to start him at quarterback for the first time since 1992.
After talking to Packers president and CEO Mark Murphy about the marketing deal Wednesday, Favre confirmed he was considering it to ESPN on Thursday.
Packers coach Mike McCarthy made it clear Friday that, from the team's perspective, the agreement would be more than a buyout to make an awkward situation go away. In fact, it's been in the works for months. He first heard about it at Favre's retirement news conference in March.
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Wow. I only came across this when looking at who was viewing what. (Stupid "Guest") Thread kind of trailed off before the BIGGEST news broke. Were people too pissed/disheartened to talk about it? Well, I agree. However, I have a drop of tasty truth for treasonous Brett.
(http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/53/5387/LTKJG00Z/posters/green-bay-packers-super-bowl-xlv-champions-composite-horizontal.jpg)
How'd your last season (hopefully) go for you, Favre?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAyLX2hY7E0[/youtube]
:rotf:
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Wow. I only came across this when looking at who was viewing what. (Stupid "Guest") Thread kind of trailed off before the BIGGEST news broke. Were people too pissed/disheartened to talk about it? Well, I agree. However, I have a drop of tasty truth for treasonous Brett.
How'd your last season (hopefully) go for you, Favre?
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My, but how quickly we turn on our past heroes, huh?
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*sigh* I've been over this issue too many times to count. I had a tear roll down my cheek with his first retirement speech here. He then wanted to come back. I was stoked. However, I wanted him to COMPETE with #12 for the starting job, but guess what? Favre was too much of a diva. How DARE anyone ask him to COMPETE when he walked away from a team he wanted to come back to....
I supported him when he went to NY, (even though I didn't like him going elsewhere after he retired) because my personality wouldn't want to stop playing the game either. I understood. We moved on however. I watched his less than stellar season, and then...everything fell apart. There was inside info before he went to the Jets that he wanted to go to one of the North teams to stick it to Teddy, and guess what? It was TRUE! Ended up going to MIN after only one year in New York, and that was only because of trade stipulations implemented by us. He succeeded in a purple uniform for one single year. Good for him. Except, he's been overpaid for the last couple years he's been in football, and he's been in jeaopardy for showing off his penis via text because, well...he can. He's Brett Favre. Well um, no he can't.
The man started out the vast love of GB. People named their kids "Brett" and probably would have given up a lung if he was in dire need. As time progressed. he's shown what a true drama queen he is. Put DeAnna, and his family through hell, put the National Football through hell, made the Vikings come out to get him from Mississippi, tarnished his Hall of Fame career, and quite possibly screwed himself out of the HOF via the inappropriate sext messages/photos. All because he's too ****ing STUPID, greedy, and arrogant to hang them up. To compete. to sit on the bench, and support his team. Whatever the case may be, Favre is a mega asshole. And you're talking to a guy who was 110% behind him even when he went to Gang Green. Going to the Vikings made me do a 180. The endless pour of news during those years was srelentless, and none of it put Favre in a beautiful neon light, know what I mean?
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...Going to the Vikings made me do a 180...
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Along with all the antics, and bullshit. Arrgghh, you know what I mean...
And you want to see a mega-fan? You need look no further than Revolution. I keep up to date on all NFL Current Events, (STUPID Johnny Jolly) and literally see red when it comes to the Vikings, and Bears. I just kind of feel sorry for the Lions...
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Along with all the antics, and bullshit. Arrgghh, you know what I mean...
And you want to see a mega-fan? You need look no further than Revolution. I keep up to date on all NFL Current Events, (STUPID Johnny Jolly) and literally see red when it comes to the Vikings, and Bears. I just kind of feel sorry for the Lions...
My friend, I think I may have found the root of your problem.....
:-)
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My friend, I think I may have found the root of your problem.....
:-)
Anyone seen wretched excess lately? As I went quickly over the pages it dawned on me I haven't seen his avatar for some time now.
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I'll keep my eyes peeled, but no, I haven't seen him.