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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Lord Undies on July 07, 2008, 08:14:10 AM
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bbernardini (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-07-08 08:12 AM
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Local right-wing global warming denier does it again! (LTTE excerpts within)
Funny how this guy keeps forgetting to mention that he works for a company known to be a significant polluter. Whole letter is at the link below. Thoughts?
http://snipurl.com/2ubny
"In his recent letter (DLN 7/3), Richard Whiteford attempted to scare us into believing several popular myths about our environment, our energy consumption, and our economy. He also reveals the motive for his deception: he wants to force us to drive plug-in hybrids.
Mr. Whiteford wants us to believe that increasing domestic oil production will not decrease prices at the pump. That statement violates the first law of supply and demand, unless government uses it as an excuse to tax gasoline more.
You see, oil companies cannot store unlimited amounts of oil, for both practical and economic reasons. They need to sell it to us or cut production. If it is not profitable for them to sell it, or if their inventories exceed their storage capacity, they will cut production."
"So the answer to high gas prices at the pump is to increase production and decrease taxes on gasoline, so that oil companies can compete for our business and increase their profits. The problem is not oil company greed, it's Big Government greed. Pennsylvania and the U.S. government make 13 percent profit on a gallon of oil they do not produce. Oil companies make less than 9 percent. Who's gouging who?"
"The same people who today bemoan our lack of clean energy are the same ones who stand in the way of efficient nuclear power and domestic drilling. They claimed that global cooling was upon us in the 1970s. They claimed that Prince William Sound would never recover from the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill. It is as pristine today as it was before the spill. If you doubt that, just book one of the many cruises departing for that destination. Now they claim we are doomed if we do not do as they say."
"As for ANWR, BP has been extracting oil from neighboring Prudhoe Bay since 1977. The caribou don't seem to mind and nobody else lives close enough to care, except a few busybodies who want to tell us what to drive. Truth be told, only the title the DLN chose for his letter is likely correct. "Time is running out for our energy plan." Both presidential candidates and a growing number of Americans are clueless on the environment and our economy, the result of decades of propaganda and disinformation. The global warming alarmists have given themselves a new 50 year lease to lie to us about the environment and achieve their political goals. Who's kidding who?"
The letter Speaks Truth To Mindless Goons, so there's no way it can stand at the DUmp!
patricia92243 (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-07-08 08:23 AM
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1. It is depressing to think there are a lot of this type person out there. nt
It is?
MiniMe (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-07-08 08:28 AM
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2. The hole in his theory is that the supply is adequate to meet the demand at present
And the higher prices are keeping the supply up, because nobody can afford to gas up for things that are not necessary.
The hole in your DUmmie theory is that you think the only country who uses oil is the USA. Idiot.
subliminable (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-07-08 08:43 AM
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3. Aw, Geez.
"If it is not profitable for them to sell it, or if their inventories exceed their storage capacity, they will cut production"
Aside from the obvious fact that it is not a supply problem, how will drilling help? More drilling makes it more profitable?
Well, yes, little mindless goon, it IS a supply problem - in a different way from what your limited little brain can wrap around.
"Pennsylvania and the U.S. government make 13 percent profit on a gallon of oil they do not produce"
Governments don't make "profit".
Technically true, but incomplete. The government "profits" by eating into the pocketbooks of others who depend on profits to exist. Those "stimulus checks" came from somewhere. We KNOW the government didn't produce that money.
"The same people who today bemoan our lack of clean energy are the same ones who stand in the way of efficient nuclear power and domestic drilling"
As if nuclear power and domestic drilling are "clean energy".
Yes, they are. Get use to it or shut off your computer. Your computer depends on that oil, idiot.
"They claimed that global cooling was upon us in the 1970s"
I was around during the '70s and I don't remember it this way. Any real evidence for this claim? Who is "they" anyway?
Evidence? You must have been stoned out of your gourd during the 1970's to have missed this bus.
"It is as pristine today as it was before the spill. If you doubt that, just book one of the many cruises departing for that destination"
You have to get off the damn cruise ship and get your hands wet to see the real, lasting damage. Turn over a rock and the damage is obvious.
So you have done this? You've looked under rocks around Prince William Sound? Or is this the best you can come up with in the way of refuting the facts?
"The caribou don't seem to mind and nobody else lives close enough to care, except a few busybodies who want to tell us what to drive"
Any evidence for these three preposterous claims?
Yes, the documented increase in the Caribou population in these areas. Idiot.
What is this guy, 13?
If he is, he is about eight years your senior.
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subliminable (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-07-08 08:43 AM
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"They claimed that global cooling was upon us in the 1970s"
I was around during the '70s and I don't remember it this way. Any real evidence for this claim? Who is "they" anyway?
Google is your friend DUmmies
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/Servonaut/newsweek.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/Servonaut/timeice.jpg)
http://www.junkscience.com/mar06/Time_AnotherIceAge_June241974.pdf
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Since I have written a few LTTEs on globull warming and live in moonbat central, I was really hoping this was mine. However, it isn't but is pretty much spot on.
My guess is there was not a single DUmbass on a debate team.