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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on July 16, 2014, 03:13:41 AM
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Read just the bold sentences...
BainsBane (27,189 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025245570
"Nit-picking about language"
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Those of you interpreting the recent controversy over AAO's banning as about "Nit-picking about language" are missing the point. Had the discussion remained about "a woman scorned," he would still be here among us. Lots of alerts fail on far more offensive posts every single day. What this controversy is about is the completely abusive PM he then sent to a female member: He directly insulted her with the ugliest word that exist in English to refer to women and then topped that off by telling her she should perform a sex act on him.
Now we see posts about word police and ideological purity. So let's be honest about this here. What exactly is it those of you making that argument are complaining about? Are you upset that a member was PPR'd for the PM he sent Cali? Because to pretend this is all about the phrase "a woman scorned" is a willful misreading of the situation. If you are going to cry language police, at least be honest about the language you are defending.
This incident, however, does show that members who comment on gendered use of language know something about what they are saying. AAO's use of "a woman scorned" signaled an underlying antagonism toward women, as his subsequent PM proved incontrovertibly. Language is important in that it signals the user's thoughts. We all use unfortunate turns of phrase from time to time. Yet when we learn it is problematic, we reflect on that and try to do better. AAO insisted he should not. That, I think, said more about his character than the original phrase itself. Another person might say, "hey I hadn't thought of that. I didn't mean to offend. Let me edit it." He not only chose not to do so, but escalated the dispute into a full out misogynistic personal attack on another member.
Don't pretend this is about nit-picking minor turns of phrase. Read the PM he sent Cali in her OP about sexism on DU. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025243375 Make sure you know what you are arguing about.
Those of you interpreting the recent controversy over AAO's banning as about "Nit-picking about language" are missing the point.
Now we see posts about word police and ideological purity.
This incident, however, does show that members who comment on gendered use of language know something about what they are saying.
Don't pretend this is about nit-picking minor turns of phrase.
Chilling.
madinmaryland (56,566 posts)
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Will Pitt is still here,
End of thread.
:rotf:
irisblue (2,481 posts)
33. I'm confused
Did Will Pitt threaten an anal rape? Please show me where that was. WP was truly wrong in his Obama post, but wishing rape is several steps above up from that obnoxious post
it depends on the meaning of the word is, is.
Generic Other (21,882 posts)
7. What this person said to cali in the PM was shameful
and a form of assault. I do not think anyone would argue this fact. If they did, they should not be on DU. Period.
The discussion about word definitions is another matter. I don't think you should insinuate those who hold different opinions than yours about a matter of diction somehow defend AAO's attack in any way.
BainsBane (27,189 posts)
10. I am trying to clarify the situation to make sure people know what it is this is about. I have seen a number of posts that tell me they have completely missed the point. I seek to make clear what is at issue and how that member earned his PPR.
BB is starting to have a Nadin moment...
BainsBane (27,189 posts)
20. Context matters
In the case of AAO's PPR and in the use of any particular word. I have had lady used toward me in a way I knew was meant to offend. I didn't comment on the use of the word, but he made himself perfectly clear. Of course it was followed by a string of other insults.
This is a written format. We all communicate through words. Unlike in real life where so much communication is non-verbal, here we rely entirely on words. You may think the word policing goes too far. I think this incident shows that language, and how people respond to others' reactions to their use of language, says a great deal about who someone is. AAO used a sexist phrase and in short over proved himself a misogynist. His word choice reflected his views of women. Cali proved to be prescient in her response.
A little preachy...
BainsBane (27,189 posts)
29. Again, it's about context. If you aren't offended by what Cali was called, that's your business. Most people interpret threats and insults as they are intended. Language exists for the purpose of communication. If you prefer not to pay attention, that's your choice.
newcriminal (1,806 posts)
31. You obviously have a reading comprehension problem, as already pointed out in another thread. I was on the jury to get the guy banned. Are you paying attention?
Star Member BainsBane (27,189 posts)
35. Now you're being deliberately rude. I'm finished.
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Star Member BainsBane (27,189 posts)
35. Now you're being deliberately rude. I'm finished.
Translated: "You just blew up me man hating meme..I'm out"
PhDD views anyone who countermands her man hating rants as "rude"...she was the same way here with here with her rants.
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Translated: "You just blew up me man hating meme..I'm out"
PhDD views anyone who countermands her man hating rants as "rude"...she was the same way here with here with her rants.
It's no wonder she sleeps alone.
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It's no wonder she sleeps alone.
Not in the story--now complete--that I wrote for dutch508, she doesn't.
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Frank, just do the deed. The woman is getting cranky.
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Frank, just do the deed. The woman is getting cranky.
This coyness is probably part of his long-term plan. Her lady parts will go unused for so long that they'll implode just like a dying star, finishing off one of the loudest primitives.
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This coyness is probably part of his long-term plan. Her lady parts will go unused for so long that they'll implode just like a dying star, finishing off one of the loudest primitives.
I'll go with Black Hole and what happens with anything that gets too close.
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Frank, just do the deed. The woman is getting cranky.
I did.....by proxy.
It's in the story.
BainsBane shouldn't be cranky any more, but perhaps dejected.
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Jugs's arrogance is growing every day by leaps and bounds, treating the DUmmies with haughty contempt.
If nadin could spell, and had gigantic, grotesque tits, they'd be sisters.
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I did.....by proxy.
It's in the story.
BainsBane shouldn't be cranky any more, but perhaps dejected.
Aww, come on, you should go hands on.
:rofl:
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5124077312/h12C4B784/)
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Aww, come on, you should go hands on.
Well, there were some serious problems writing that story, and I'm not talking about the distractions of an impending event in real life, either.
The creativity and imagination are influenced by one's feelings.
It's as easy as strawberries-and-cream to write about franksolich hopping around in the sack with a primitive femme whom I have some feelings, either positive or negative.
I'm not saying I like the BainsBane primitive, but I am indifferent about her, having nothing against her either. The best I could do was an utterly neutral portrait of her, and commandeer someone else to service her; she's not my type.
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Well, there were some serious problems writing that story, and I'm not talking about the distractions of an impending event in real life, either.
The creativity and imagination are influenced by one's feelings.
It's as easy as strawberries-and-cream to write about franksolich hopping around in the sack with a primitive femme whom I have some feelings, either positive or negative.
I'm not saying I like the BainsBane primitive, but I am indifferent about her, having nothing against her either. The best I could do was an utterly neutral portrait of her, and commandeer someone else to service her; she's not my type.
That really goes to the heart of the problem. She's nobody's type.
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I do not recall AAO at DU. Bainsbane reaches a new low all the time. DUmmy Of The Year perhaps? :whistling:
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Frank, just do the deed. The woman is getting cranky.
Exactly. We all know that she plans on taking the job in Nebraska that she was talking about in the secret super DU forum.
Frank she will be an easy score, just buy her something sexist like roses. Big Flower is the reason why all sex is rape.
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Exactly. We all know that she plans on taking the job in Nebraska that she was talking about in the secret super DU forum.
Frank she will be an easy score, just buy her something sexist like roses. Big Flower is the reason why all sex is rape.
This, out on that big pile of pig shit.
:-)
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That really goes to the heart of the problem. She's nobody's type.
I put this up there with Frank saying you he is not a "cat person" but at times he has had several of them around and gave them the best of care.
I have a feeling Frank will be breastfeeding within the week. :-)
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This, out on that big pile of pig shit.
:-)
Nothing like banging a big titted femi-nazi on a pile of 300 year pig shit.........man, I hope one of the neighbors has a go cam.
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Frank, just do the deed. The woman is getting cranky.
You can't stuff a wet noodle up a wild cat's ass.
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You can't stuff a wet noodle up a wild cat's ass.
:lmao:
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:lmao:
You can't stuff a wet noodle up a wild cat's ass.
She will do things to Frank that he won't even be able to put in words. It might end up being a best seller. The 50 Shades of Frank