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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on July 14, 2014, 02:29:07 AM
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Barry is a 3D chess master...
Fred Sanders (2,018 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025231100
There is no "I" in "Obama". The self deprecating self confidence and calm of Obama is unearthly.
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I know that calm drives so many so mad, but it has served him well. I think it is that same calm that makes him smile everyday, that shows up naturally in his dealing with every day people and with the everyday madness of a corporate media that denies him both truth and any positive coverage, not to mention an opposing political party that has embraced traces of pure fascism and theological absolutism.
Any other nation on earth would toss their current leader and replace with Obama in an instant, maybe not Norway.
Appreciation for the President is the only appreciation thread that should matter.
Edit: a comment below got my attention, that Obama is the Jackie Robinson of politics, even his allies may say he goes too far, thinking a black man can play the game.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-YesCOMOuE[/youtube]
funny thing is it was a leftist that heckled him
cali (94,179 posts)
2. I admire his equanimity. I don't admire his pushing the TPP- hard. I don't admire his blind support for fracking. I support him when I believe he's right and I will vigorously oppose him when he's pushing a corporate agenda- something he does quite a bit.
And it's merely your opinion that the only appreciation thread that counts is one that uncritically praises the President.
mopinko (41,650 posts)
23. ^^^^ an much as people dont like to admit it, unless we are all willing to park our cars, the president still has to worry about having enough energy to keep the economy moving.
considering where we are in the world, since he has moved us to so much domestic production, his ass is not hanging out there for the saudis to kick. like they did jimmy carter. or pootie poot, either.
and whatever happens with tpp, i personally, believe he is in there fighting for labor and environmental concessions to level out what is currently quite tipped against us.
it isnt the 90's. it wont be nafta.
conservaphobe (201 posts)
4. Best President of my lifetime.
He restored my faith in government after growing up during the Bush years, having my civil rights violated by a collusion between the rich people of my town (in various levels of local government), then going down a deep rabbit hole of conspiracy theories and anti-government sentiment.
For that, I am loyal to this President and to this party. Probably too loyal at times. But loyal nonetheless.
Fred Sanders (2,018 posts)
14. Loyalty to your nationally elected eader and the only clam and rational voice in the dark rooms
inhabited by the dark forces is not a failing.
Felicity is properly the better word to describe what President Obama is and does:
Felicity:
the ability to find appropriate expression for one's thoughts.
"speech that pleased by its accuracy, felicity, and fluency"
synonyms: eloquence, aptness, appropriateness, suitability, suitableness, applicability, fitness, relevance, pertinence More
antonyms: inappropriateness
a particularly effective feature of a work of literature or art.
plural noun: felicities
"the King James version, thanks to its felicities of language, ruled supreme"
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kp6lMSOGNA[/youtube]
bigwillq (61,789 posts)
21. Restored your faith in government?
WOW.
I think the government has gotten worse during the Obama administration. Government is as divided as ever, and I think there's still a lot of anti-government sentiment.
I agree with the OP about Obama's self-confidence and calm, but I don't agree with this post.
conservaphobe (201 posts)
54. The fact that there's a lot of anti-government sentiment doesn't change my personal perspective.
I was speaking how I personally feel.
Odd that it upset so many people.
I mistakenly thought I was among like-minded people.
Sorry.
woo me with science (26,943 posts)
22. Civil rights, huh? Which of these Obama policies are your favorites?
This is what happens when we allow corporations to purchase government. We allow the construction of a corporate authoritarian state
Chilling Legal Memo From Obama DOJ Justifies Assassination of US Citizens
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101654954
Obama seeks longer PATRIOT Act extension than Republicans (December 2013)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x380450
When it comes to civil liberties, apparently Democrats are just as bad as Republicans.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022101960
NSA's Massive New Spy Center to Track Your Emails, Internet Activity, and Phone Calls
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101620852
Obama Quietly Signs Abusive Spy Bill He Once Vowed to Eliminate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022104861
Obama repeals Magna Carta, asserting powers our forefathers denied to Kings
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101655620
Obama's Memo on Killing Americans Twists 'Imminent Threat' Like Bush
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101654919
Obama no better than Bush when it comes to security vs. civil liberties.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022355307
Obama Admin Seeks Permission TO LIE In Response To FOI Requests - Even To The COURTS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2185303
NDAA on trial: Obama Administration fights ban on indefinite detention of Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101748688
Obama, Democrats Push to Make Bush Spying Laws Permanent
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022084702
NDAA, signed by Obama, is a direct attack against legitimate protest and dissent
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022064803
NSA Whistleblower: All Americans under constant surveillance, all info. stored, no matter the post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002193487; http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021935289
Bipartisan Congress Disgracefully Approves the FISA Warrantless Spying Bill for Five More Years
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022087323
While Public & Media Focused on 2nd Amendment, 5th Amendment Quietly Dismantled
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022390581
How the Obama administration justifies extrajudicial killing of Americans,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022318187
Judge Says Under Law Executive Branch Can Commit Acts That Sure Do Seem Unconstitutional
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022122464
Obama Justice Dept. says wiretap lawsuit should not proceed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014337039
NDAA Lawsuit- Hedges v. Obama, The Last Thin Line of Defense
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022357078
Federal authorities step up efforts to license surveillance drones for law enforcement
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022383596
Big Banks and FBI worked together vs Occupy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022095056]
FBI Investigated 'Occupy' As Possible 'Domestic Terrorism' Threat, Internal Documents Show
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022061578
FBI Documents Reveal Secret Nationwide Occupy Monitoring (Updated the OP)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022057064
Public Buses Across Country Quietly Adding Microphones to Record Passenger Conversations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021965291
Street artist behind satirical NYPD 'Drone' posters arrested
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021920967
The Obama DOJ urged the Supreme Court's endorsement of strip searches.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002521527
Obama Administration Fights to Allow Warrantless GPS Tracking
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1074474
Anonymous to FBI: hey, dudes, maybe you could take a break from...investigating activists....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022145621
Half a billion dollars for drones to spy on Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021876414
President Obama's IncarcerNation
http://www.nationofchange.org/president-obama-s-incarcernation-1335274655
From Bradley Manning to Aaron Swartz -- The Government's Inhumane Persecution of Brave Truth Tellers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022276941
The sight of Army helicopters and the sound of gunfire...on Houston's south side
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022276742
Kiriakou and Stuxnet: the danger of the still-escalating Obama whistleblower war
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022275570
Can the DEA Hide a Surveillance Camera on Your Property?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022237059
Social Media and the Stasi
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021888029
Homeland Security Wants to More Than Double Its Predator Drone Fleet Inside the US, Despite Safety/Privacy Invasions
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014312823
CIA Behind Bizarre Censorship Incident At Alleged 9/11 Plotters’ Gitmo Trial
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022280285
“I Am Wearing My Conviction As A Badge Of Honor.â€
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022275128
Meet the Contractors Turning America's Police Into a Paramilitary Force
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12525281
How Secrecy Corrodes Democracy
http://election.democraticunderground.com/101655009
Obama Quietly Issues Ruling Saying It's Legal For The FBI To Break The Law
http://election.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7545687
US Pulls Plug on Iran Cable News (Press TV)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014394770
DHS Watchdog OKs 'Suspicionless' Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022339091
:rotf:
maced666 (213 posts)
34. Wow, your post is backed up by facts and specifics cementing your point.
How in the world can it stand a chance against Obama's 'self confidence calm and unearthliness'
Somewhere between a disgusting corporate orgy takeover and 'he's so dreamy' is some ****ing common sense, thanks for showing it still exists.
Some DO get it.
Ineeda (3,045 posts)
37. WOW - you sure hate this POTUS don't you. Or do you have a compilation of negative facts about every modern-day president and potential office holder? Disclaimer: I really like this president, admire his calm as the OP presented, and recognise that he is not perfect by a long shot. But you sure put a lot of work into your list, indicating a deep hatred. Sad, really.
abakan (290 posts)
40. What do you think the list would look like...If Romney had won the election or god forbid, McCain and the Harpy from Wasillia.
conservaphobe (201 posts)
49. I'm sorry that my support for a Democratic president offends you so much.
It bothers the teabaggers in my family as well.
ConservativeDemocrat This message was hidden by Jury decision.
woo me with science (26,943 posts)
5. Bwah ha ha! The "unearthly" part was the best of all.
Shades of Kim Jong Un...and you already have a response believing you were serious, which shows how creepy the propaganda adulation has become around here. Poe's Law and all...
Really, hagiography is creepy even when it's satirical.
Fred Sanders (2,018 posts)
9. Glad you like it. But you are riding another horse in the upcoming election derby, Obama is not in.
So the lack of support for your current President is puzzling.
woo me with science (26,943 posts)
11. I will never forget what the media has done, putting in place an incessant propaganda machine
that pretends the two parties are at odds on *everything,* when the two current corporate leaderships are actually conveniently in agreement on virtually every important economic, war, and police state policy that the One Percent cares about.
This thread is an excellent satirical example of how they get away with it, too...avoiding the actual issues and instead trying to build cultish loyalty to parties and politicians, utterly apart from their actual agendas.
DirkGently (9,783 posts)
16. You know someone alerted on your
first response, right?
For "comparing Obama to Kim Jong Un."
On Sat Jul 12, 2014, 11:33 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Bwah ha ha! The "unearthly" part was the best of all.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5231145
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
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Comparing President Obama to Kim Jong Un... REALLY?!
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Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't think the president was being compared to Kim Jong Un. I think the language in the thread was being compared. This isn't a personal attack and I don't think it shows any views that are unacceptable on Democratic Underground.
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Explanation: Wrong alerter, the comparison to Kim Jong Un is made to the poster, and I more or less agree. It is eerily reminiscent of the Korean peoples forced adoration of Kim Jong Un... REALLY
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Sigh.
Fred Sanders (2,018 posts)
83. My voice is not advocating a march to totalitarianism, you need to connect the meaning of words better with your conclusions, because there is a vast disconnect.
Fred Sanders (2,018 posts)
87. Really, I have, I am a faster reader. I understand Obama is far from perfect, his lack of push back
against privacy abuses is a major, major failing, the surveillance has to stop.
The free trade negotiations are deeply flawed. I could go on.
But Obama is like the Prisoner of Zenda, the circumstance he inherited can not be undone by a shaking of magic juju sticks and, as he has said repeatedly, he is one man, change has to come from the people, and then through him, which is exactly what has happened with gay marriage and now with drug laws, with health care reform. I could go on,
What troubles me is that even faint praise is criticized, there is far too little praise of other people compared to the mountains of negativity and derision, deserved or not.
I do not mind praising others, hyperbole is just a literary tool to make the point, I mean no offence.
Cheers.
Sunlei (6,149 posts)
24. I am very Proud of our President and all his Admin. Didn't know much about him at first.
As each year passes, he's earned my respect and appreciation. What a tough job he has!! and what amazing grace under pressure.
I even look forward to when his job as President is over. Wonder what he will do? Hope I can be a part of whatever 'that' is!
mopinko (41,650 posts)
28. i heard so many stories about this
when he ran for the senate and onward.
i saw it in person in '08 a couple times.
i sincerely believe this is who the man is. and when there is talk about chess games, i always remember the poker stories that i heard, and i know that that is what was goin on. deep strategery.
tularetom (18,827 posts)
36. He is able to remain calm because he knows he is right
This is admirable for the most part. Unfortunately, he knows he is right even when he is wrong.
I don't think he gives a shit what other people think, that's how confident he is in his own opinion. He won't make an effort to try to change the opinions of those who oppose him because he knows it's fruitless to argue with stupid people.
Sometimes we could do with a little less calm and a little more urgency from him.
KauaiK (363 posts)
45. If you understand Hawaii...you understand Obama
He was raised with "aloha". Obama doesn't get angry; he doesn't shout; there is no bombastic rhetoric or vengefulness. Yes, he has made mistakes, but don't we all? He just keeps stating his objectives and moves forward with a smile.
He has "punked" the GOP so many times and they don't "get it" nor do can they figure out how "get" him. He makes the GOP look like they have to study-up to be so out-of-touch and stupid. The lawsuit is going to blow up in their face and they won't understand why.
cilla4progress (3,712 posts)
106. This is why
I strive to emulate him.
He is among the greats of human history. Like others of his ilk (Jesus, Lincoln, Gandhi, MLK Jr., VanGogh), sadly, not fully appreciated by many in his time.
van Gogh? Really?
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There may not be an "I" in his name, but "I" shows up a lot in his speeches.
Not counting instances when he quoted a letter from a citizen or cited dialogue from a movie, President Barack Obama used the first person singular--including the pronouns "I" and "me" and the adjective "my"--199 times in a speech he delivered Thursday vowing to use unilateral executive action to achieve his policy goals that Congress would not enact through the normal, constitutional legislative process.
from this article: http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/terence-p-jeffrey/i-me-my-obama-uses-first-person-singular-199-times-speech-vowing
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For atheists they sure are in search of a god and messiah.
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O is all about I!
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Is Obama the first gay, black psychopathic president?
Hare Psychopathy Checklist
Definition
The Hare Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (PCL-R) is a diagnostic tool used to rate a person's psychopathic or antisocial tendencies. People who are psychopathic prey ruthlessly on others using charm, deceit, violence or other methods that allow them to get with they want. The symptoms of psychopathy include: lack of a conscience or sense of guilt, lack of empathy, egocentricity, pathological lying, repeated violations of social norms, disregard for the law, shallow emotions, and a history of victimizing others.
glib and superficial charm
grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
need for stimulation
pathological lying
cunning and manipulativeness
lack of remorse or guilt
shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)
callousness and lack of empathy
parasitic lifestyle
poor behavioral controls
sexual promiscuity
early behavior problems
lack of realistic long-term goals
impulsivity
irresponsibility
failure to accept responsibility for own actions
many short-term marital relationships
juvenile delinquency
revocation of conditional release
criminal versatility
http://www.minddisorders.com/Flu-Inv/Hare-Psychopathy-Checklist.html
The argument can be made that almost all of these apply to Obama.
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I see the 100% cultists and the 99% cultists are at it again.
As we can plainly see, the 100% cultists gladly fall to their knees and worship Dear Leader. The 99% would gladly do the same if he would just shift to the left another 1%. But have no doubt, if he jumped in with them completely the 100% would move with him, and combined with the old 99% would make up the new 100%.
Liberals are totalitarians.
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Wait, did the original Dummy poster really claim that every country in the world would switch leaders with Obama?
Obama is seen as weak by his peers. Syria was the straw that broke the camel's back. Russia now has more foreign policy influence than the United States.
Obama took the world's only super power, and turned us into a joke.
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There's an "I" in Hussein, as I recall, and isn't that a pretty important part of his name?
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There's an "I" in Hussein, as I recall, and isn't that a pretty important part of his name?
Also in Sunni, muzzie, alien, and socialist.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0[/youtube]