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Title: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: franksolich on July 12, 2014, 04:48:40 PM
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Kaleva (13,202 posts)    Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:20 AM

Frugal fishing ideas

A couple of days ago, I was talking with my father-in-law about fishing and we discussed fishing for suckers. A fish many people overlook. In Michigan where I live, suckers can be taken year round on many rivers and from the end of April to Sept. 30th on certain designated trout streams. There is no size or quantity limit for the fish.
 
Last year, some friends who had gone fishing gave me the suckers they had caught but didn't want. I made Kalamojakka, a Finnish fish stew, with it and it was very good. One can also use suckers to pan fry, can, pickle, smoke or grind up into fish patties. Being bottom feeders, suckers are easy to catch using the most basic of fishing gear with worms as bait.
 
Now you may be like me and not have any fishing gear at all. A basic fishing rod adequate to take suckers is pretty inexpensive or one may make their own "Hobo" fishing kit out of 1" pvc pipe and fittings or use a protein drink tube as shown in this youtube video:
 
after which a youtube video

A resident fishing license in Michigan costs $26.00 and maybe it would cost another $10 or so dollars to make my own fishing kit but there's still plenty of time to recoup that this year in money saved.

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Curmudgeoness (14,234 posts)    Thu Jul 10, 2014, 06:51 PM

1. That's an interesting place to be frugal

and I never would have thought of it. With the price of fish these days, it would take no time at all to recoup the license fee and price of equipment. Dig your own worms, or raise them if you intend to do a lot of fishing.
 
Or, like you did, find fishermen who will give you their catches that they don't want.

^^^Omaha Steve's pal, the primitive with a sensitive bottom, who's looking for a charity for the homeless operated by atheists.

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Kaleva (13,202 posts)    Thu Jul 10, 2014, 09:13 PM

2. I was thinking more about the price of meat.

And possibly replacing meat with fish and then expanding on that train of thought by researching how frugal one can be in acquiring fish.
 
Only two people I know of who fish keep the suckers they catch. Everyone else considers them to be a junk fish not worth keeping. I could ask them to save a few for me.
 
I'd also like to go back to fishing myself as I enjoyed it when I was younger.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 12, 2014, 05:11:47 PM
First of March until early may around here, illegal gill nets strung out across the local creeks at night when the game warden can't see you. :-) I've only been on one of those about 35 years ago. The white suckers spawn like salmon.

They are boney as all get out, full of hair fine bones plus the usual large ones. Best way to fix them is to fillet out the big bones, then dice that fillet about every 1/4" apart and fry. ....or clean and pressure cook until all the bones are soft then fry and eat bones and all.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: Delmar on July 12, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
Frugal DUmmies should consider trapping turtles for their meat along with the carp.  If any of you lurking DUmmies are reluctant to eat turtle meat, maybe you'd change your mind if you knew that the French eat turtles and even have fancy french names for the recipes like Potage a la Tortue verte--green turtle soup. 

Here is an idea for a cheap turtle trap.  Dig a hole deep enough to hold a good sized turtle and line the bottom with ashes--you can use any kind of ashes, clean out a fireplace and use those ashes to save money. Then you take a bag of frozen peas and shake them out in a ring around the edge of the hole.  Find a nearby hiding spot and when a turtle stops to take a pea, you jump out and kick him in the ash hole.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: marv on July 13, 2014, 12:02:34 PM
Hmmmm, catfish nuggets at the grocery store, box of beer batter mix, 64oz veg oil.

Voila, no boat, no pole, no line, no bobber, no lure. There ya go; as cheap as it gets!
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: Dori on July 13, 2014, 12:21:56 PM
I'm a halibut lover, not fond of fresh water fish, but I like catching them.

Can't imagine these suckers are worth the effort.



 
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: Carl on July 13, 2014, 02:08:57 PM
You can count on one finger the number of DUmp parasites that would trade in their EBT card to try to catch a fish that tastes like the bottom of a mud puddle.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: USA4ME on July 13, 2014, 02:33:32 PM
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Kaleva

Frugal fishing ideas

A couple of days ago, I was talking with my father-in-law about fishing and we discussed fishing for suckers. A fish many people overlook.

I strongly suggest they ask for ideas from Dem party leaders. If there's anyone who's proven they know how to catch suckers, it's them.

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Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: GOBUCKS on July 13, 2014, 02:55:27 PM

Can't imagine these suckers are worth the effort.

At the DUmp, the queer mafia would get you tombstoned for that.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: sharkhawk on July 13, 2014, 03:58:56 PM
Eh sucker fish are like Bullheads.  take them, yank the lure out, throw them into the weeds.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: Big Dog on July 13, 2014, 04:15:02 PM
Frugal DUmmies should consider trapping turtles for their meat along with the carp.  If any of you lurking DUmmies are reluctant to eat turtle meat, maybe you'd change your mind if you knew that the French eat turtles and even have fancy french names for the recipes like Potage a la Tortue verte--green turtle soup. 

Here is an idea for a cheap turtle trap.  Dig a hole deep enough to hold a good sized turtle and line the bottom with ashes--you can use any kind of ashes, clean out a fireplace and use those ashes to save money. Then you take a bag of frozen peas and shake them out in a ring around the edge of the hole.  Find a nearby hiding spot and when a turtle stops to take a pea, you jump out and kick him in the ash hole.

 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: Ogre on July 13, 2014, 04:16:02 PM
As a boat owner and avid fisherman, there is no such thing as "cheap" fishing.

If the primitive wants cheap fish he should buy it at the store.

Mrs. Ogre reminds me that my boat is a hole in the water that I throw money in to.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: catsmtrods on July 13, 2014, 06:42:34 PM
Suckers? I guess I can see the DUmmy attraction!
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: obumazombie on July 13, 2014, 06:51:42 PM
Frugal DUmmies should consider trapping turtles for their meat along with the carp.  If any of you lurking DUmmies are reluctant to eat turtle meat, maybe you'd change your mind if you knew that the French eat turtles and even have fancy french names for the recipes like Potage a la Tortue verte--green turtle soup. 

Here is an idea for a cheap turtle trap.  Dig a hole deep enough to hold a good sized turtle and line the bottom with ashes--you can use any kind of ashes, clean out a fireplace and use those ashes to save money. Then you take a bag of frozen peas and shake them out in a ring around the edge of the hole.  Find a nearby hiding spot and when a turtle stops to take a pea, you jump out and kick him in the ash hole.

I modified your recipe a bit to catch polar bears...
I cut a hole in the ice the size of a polar bear,
lined it with peas
When he stopped to take one,
I kicked him in the icehole !
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: VelvetElvis on July 17, 2014, 09:27:09 AM
Suckers? I guess I can see the DUmmy attraction!

If a DUmmy eats a sucker, is it cannibalism?
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on July 17, 2014, 09:34:41 AM
If a DUmmy eats a sucker, is it cannibalism?
About as close as you can get if not. One bottom feeder eating another.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: Chris_ on July 17, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
DUmmies don't eat suckers out of professional courtesy.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: Gina on July 17, 2014, 09:51:27 AM
I'm not biting that they buy fishing licenses.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: GOBUCKS on July 17, 2014, 12:36:06 PM
In a lifetime of fishing, I've yet to see anyone fishing with a piece of PVC pipe.

I've seen guys grabbing catfish by hand, or even using that stupid Popeil Pocket Fisherman.

I've fished with cane poles, jugs, trotlines, and seines.

But I never thought of using a PVC pipe.

We don't call 'em DUmmies for nothing.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: Gina on July 17, 2014, 03:57:04 PM
The pvc pipe easily converts to a bong
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 17, 2014, 05:08:03 PM
The pvc pipe easily converts to a bong

Written from experience . . . ? :tongue: :whistling: :stoner:
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: GOBUCKS on July 17, 2014, 05:12:01 PM
The best use of PVC pipe I've ever seen was by the Blue Man Group.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: ChuckJ on July 17, 2014, 07:51:44 PM
In a lifetime of fishing, I've yet to see anyone fishing with a piece of PVC pipe.

I've seen guys grabbing catfish by hand, or even using that stupid Popeil Pocket Fisherman.

I've fished with cane poles, jugs, trotlines, and seines.

But I never thought of using a PVC pipe.

We don't call 'em DUmmies for nothing.

You've fished with jugs? How did you get her to hush about men long enough to fish?
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: Crazy Horse on July 17, 2014, 08:03:11 PM
Frugal DUmmies should consider trapping turtles for their meat along with the carp.  If any of you lurking DUmmies are reluctant to eat turtle meat, maybe you'd change your mind if you knew that the French eat turtles and even have fancy french names for the recipes like Potage a la Tortue verte--green turtle soup. 

Here is an idea for a cheap turtle trap.  Dig a hole deep enough to hold a good sized turtle and line the bottom with ashes--you can use any kind of ashes, clean out a fireplace and use those ashes to save money. Then you take a bag of frozen peas and shake them out in a ring around the edge of the hole.  Find a nearby hiding spot and when a turtle stops to take a pea, you jump out and kick him in the ash hole.

That's just cruel.  I love watching turtles swim in potatoes, bacon and onions.

Back in the late 80s I used to get $2.48 per pound for snappers.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: landofconfusion80 on July 17, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
That's just cruel.  I love watching turtles swim in potatoes, bacon and onions.

Back in the late 80s I used to get $2.48 per pound for snappers.


Around here, it's by the hour
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: obumazombie on July 18, 2014, 01:02:18 AM
Around here, it's by the hour
I guess I'm not from around here.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: RobJohnson on July 18, 2014, 01:35:36 AM
In a lifetime of fishing, I've yet to see anyone fishing with a piece of PVC pipe.

I've seen guys grabbing catfish by hand, or even using that stupid Popeil Pocket Fisherman.

I've fished with cane poles, jugs, trotlines, and seines.

But I never thought of using a PVC pipe.

We don't call 'em DUmmies for nothing.
  I have never seen anyone dig for worms either.

I have seen people use the garden hose at night to wet the grass so the dew worms would rise to the surface.

The fish are "bottom feeders" the irony at DU is thick.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 18, 2014, 08:50:05 AM
  I have never seen anyone dig for worms either.

I have seen people use the garden hose at night to wet the grass so the dew worms would rise to the surface.

The fish are "bottom feeders" the irony at DU is thick.
Dug up plenty of worms when I was a kid....and turned over many pieces of tin to catch crickets for fishing. No one around here at that time would have ever dreamed of buying worms and crickets at a store....now it's common and raising them is a profitable business.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: GOBUCKS on July 18, 2014, 12:29:51 PM
I have never seen anyone dig for worms either.

As a kid, I had to have the lawn mowed and the worms dug if I wanted to fish on Saturday.

I laid scrap lumber and many bricks in shady places hoping to reduce the amount of digging. It helped but was never enough.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: franksolich on July 18, 2014, 12:36:44 PM
Dug up plenty of worms when I was a kid....and turned over many pieces of tin to catch crickets for fishing. No one around here at that time would have ever dreamed of buying worms and crickets at a store....now it's common and raising them is a profitable business.

This reminds me of the one time I tried to mess with the environment, and failed; I was about 11-12 years old at the time.

Up until I was 10, we'd lived in the black-dirt farming area of the Platte River of Nebraska, which always had plenty of worms in the ground.  Then we moved up into the heart of the Sandhills of Nebraska, which with its sandy soil had no worms at all.

Upon learning that worms made the ground more fertile, one time when we were visiting where we used to live, I took a shoe-box and filled it with black dirt and worms, bringing it back to the Sandhills, where I dug a hole in the garden and put the black soil and worms in it.

It didn't work; the worms never got fruitful and multiplied.  In fact, they just died.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: VelvetElvis on July 18, 2014, 01:51:53 PM
This reminds me of the one time I tried to mess with the environment, and failed; I was about 11-12 years old at the time.

Up until I was 10, we'd lived in the black-dirt farming area of the Platte River of Nebraska, which always had plenty of worms in the ground.  Then we moved up into the heart of the Sandhills of Nebraska, which with its sandy soil had no worms at all.

Upon learning that worms made the ground more fertile, one time when we were visiting where we used to live, I took a shoe-box and filled it with black dirt and worms, bringing it back to the Sandhills, where I dug a hole in the garden and put the black soil and worms in it.

It didn't work; the worms never got fruitful and multiplied.  In fact, they just died.

Frank, you should have put them into the William Rivers Pit.
It would have been like worm  Valhalla!
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: DUmpsterDiver on July 18, 2014, 02:01:48 PM
In a lifetime of fishing, I've yet to see anyone fishing with a piece of PVC pipe.

The only time I saw it done, the fisherman capped both ends of a 3 inch pvc pipe full of powder, taped a rock to it and lit the cannon fuse.   He used a net to pick up the fish after the hole in the water filled back in.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: Gina on July 18, 2014, 02:13:20 PM
Dug up plenty of worms when I was a kid....and turned over many pieces of tin to catch crickets for fishing. No one around here at that time would have ever dreamed of buying worms and crickets at a store....now it's common and raising them is a profitable business.

Yeh that's what we used for bait back in the day. We found them.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: obumazombie on July 18, 2014, 02:38:30 PM
The only time I saw it done, the fisherman capped both ends of a 3 inch pvc pipe full of powder, taped a rock to it and lit the cannon fuse.   He used a net to pick up the fish after the hole in the water filled back in.
Reminds me of the story about a young boy who get caught red handed by a game warden while he was dynamite fishing. The boy handed the warden a lit stick of dynamite and asked him if they were going to talk, or get back to fishing.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 18, 2014, 03:07:59 PM
Reminds me of the story about a young boy who get caught red handed by a game warden while he was dynamite fishing. The boy handed the warden a lit stick of dynamite and asked him if they were going to talk, or get back to fishing.
Yeah, dynamite fishing....and then there was the "calling up fish", you used a T-model coil and an old hand crank telephone, throw the wires in the water and start cranking....just don't be in the water like my buddy was when you start cranking... :lmao:
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: RobJohnson on July 18, 2014, 08:17:48 PM
As a kid, I had to have the lawn mowed and the worms dug if I wanted to fish on Saturday.

I laid scrap lumber and many bricks in shady places hoping to reduce the amount of digging. It helped but was never enough.

We would collect them with flashlights at night, bait shops would buy them from us.
Title: Re: primitives discuss fishing on the cheap
Post by: RobJohnson on July 18, 2014, 08:26:25 PM
Reminds me of the story about a young boy who get caught red handed by a game warden while he was dynamite fishing. The boy handed the warden a lit stick of dynamite and asked him if they were going to talk, or get back to fishing.
The last conversation I had with a game warden was in Illinois. She worked for the DNR and she asked if were catching any thing. I told her "just a buzz.'