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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on July 08, 2014, 02:55:54 PM
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jmowreader (27,824 posts)
Why Holly Fisher pisses me off
You remember Holly. She's the cute but extremely right-wing asshole from West Virginia who posted the "conservative hat trick" picture of her wearing a "Pro Life" t-shirt and holding a Chick Fil A cup while standing in front of a closed Hobby Lobby store. And of course that wasn't good enough for her friends so she followed it up with the famous Suicide Bombing for Jesus pose.
These were supposed to make liberals' "heads explode." Whatever.
No, what's pissing me off about this little ditz is she self-identifies as the "wife of a combat veteran." The Troops call this "wearing your husband's rank" and we ****ing HATE IT!
To those not familiar with military culture:
As with all things, Proglodytes cannot/will not speak the truth in anything.
A proper example of "wearing your husband's rank" would be a colonel's (or, as Dutch would spell it, "kernill") wife running around expecting to be treated with the same deference afforded her husband, i.e. best seats in the O Club, being seen first at the Troop Medical Clinic, etc. In other words, assuming privilege based solely on the spouse's status.
I have yet to see a soldier become upset with a spouse identifying as the spouse of a vet. In fact, hiding that status would be the bigger insult.
Correct me if I'm wrong, fellow vets.
Might I also add: this all arises from the Proglodytes screaming you cannot support the military and its missions if you don't have skin in the game.
That bullshit came to a sudden and screeching halt when Obama didn't send Malia and Sasha to fight in Libya.
vankuria (487 posts)
1. I'm the wife of a combat veteran
and I find her offensive on so many levels and I never heard the expression "wearing your husbands rank". WTF does that mean??
Warpy (77,302 posts)
2. Yeah, I can see how this would be incredibly insulting to the people who are actually out there
putting their asses on the line, getting shot at, and hoping they survive long enough to get home and see their youngest child before shipping out to some other hell hole.
I would far rather see that little twit than be her and I'm delighted her Jihad pose with a copy of the real thing went viral on her ass. I do hope she finds out the advantage inherent in shutting the **** up instead of doubling down.
Then again, people that stupid learn very slowly, if they learn at all, so I imagine we're going to see a lot more of her in the time to come.
What you know about anything could be slid between 2 pieces of paper with head room to spare.
Skidmore (31,714 posts)
3. I'm not sure why troops should
be upset with a person identifying as the wife of a veteran. I really don't like what this woman is representing in terms of political views to the nation but what does that have to do with her being the spouse of a veteran. It would seem to me that whenever someone joins the military, their family members are in it for the long haul too. Don't think it has anything to do with rank either. Perhaps military personnel should not marry. Would that make it better for you?
jmowreader (27,824 posts)
9. Thanks for the civiliansplaining
I was a soldier for 12 years. One of the things every soldier learns about before he ever reaches his first permanent duty station is the Phenomenon of the Professional Spouse - "I'm Mrs. Colonel Smith" or "I'm Mrs. Sergeant Major Jones." Before Wikipedia was invented I don't think there were twelve people in the entire world who knew what Charles Bagnal's wife's first name is - she always introduced herself as "I'm General Bagnal's wife." Not "Hi, I'm Patsy" (which is what it is), rather "Hi, I'm the general's wife." She would go to stores in Nashville and introduce herself to the clerks as the general's wife. I'm certain the ladies at the perfume counter in Hecht's really gave a shit about her being the wife of the 101st Airborne commander, but they knew she was.
Better war story: This is Rocky the Marne Bulldog, the mascot of the 3rd Infantry Division.
(http://media.knoxnews.com/media/img/photos/2012/12/13/media_d6afd6dc6b6345728c90fa2764b804d4_t607.jpg)
Rocky was designed by Walt Disney during World War II, and it's (as far as I know) the only one of Disney's unit logos still in use. Rocky is a male bulldog and was created with everything a male dog should have. In 1973, the 3rd ID got a new general...whose prudish wife just couldn't stand to see Rocky's balls. They were chiseled off. The next CG's wife didn't know why anyone would deface such a historically significant statue and had them restored. Two generals' wives later and they were off again. The next general's wife comes in, they're back on. Eventually they're going to get smart about this and put expansion anchors in the statue so they can bolt his nuts on.
The soldier hates the Professional Spouse, such as Taliban Holly over there, because they aggressively exploit power and authority they don't actually have.
I'm not a civilian and I have more Time-in-Service.
STFU, bitch.
ChisolmTrailDem (3,468 posts)
11. She's not cute. The ugly...
...deep within her shows on the surface.
I don't care if you're the most beautiful woman or man on the planet. If you are ugly inside, to me you are ugly outside.
She's f'ugly.
I would rub that ugly all over my face.
Glad there's a happy soldier out there.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025211308
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This is the REAL war on women:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/08/shes-a-young-conservative-mother-who-posted-a-picture-that-would-make-a-liberals-head-explode-she-tells-us-how-some-reacted/
But she, being a conservative, can take it. She's not a whiny little bitch like we see at DU. Love this:
https://twitter.com/HollyRFisher/status/485825091083579392/photo/1
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ChisolmTrailDem (3,468 posts)
11. She's not cute. The ugly...
...deep within her shows on the surface.
I don't care if you're the most beautiful woman or man on the planet. If you are ugly inside, to me you are ugly outside.
She's f'ugly.
Says the psycho who can't coexist with people she disagrees with politically without shitting herself. I wonder what this shrieking harpy looks like in person.
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jmowreader (27,824 posts)
No, what's pissing me off about this little ditz is she self-identifies as the "wife of a combat veteran." The Troops call this "wearing your husband's rank" and we ****ing HATE IT!
If you're going to get bent out of shape over something, at least make sure you're clear on what that "something" is.
Pentagon Proposes Controversial Policy Assigning Ranks To Military Spouses (http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/07/new-dod-policy-to-assign-rank-to-military-spouses/#!ba0d2b)
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jmowreader (27,824 posts)
No, what's pissing me off about this little ditz is she self-identifies as the "wife of a combat veteran." The Troops call this "wearing your husband's rank" and we ****ing HATE IT!
You don't know what the **** you're talking about, dipshit.
As for this:
I was a soldier for 12 years. One of the things every soldier learns about before he ever reaches his first permanent duty station is the Phenomenon of the Professional Spouse - "I'm Mrs. Colonel Smith" or "I'm Mrs. Sergeant Major Jones."
I have personally never, EVER heard a spouse introduce herself this way, and I've served in the military or with the military for the past 23 years. Anyone else?
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You don't know what the **** you're talking about, dipshit.
As for this:
I have personally never, EVER heard a spouse introduce herself this way, and I've served in the military or with the military for the past 23 years. Anyone else?
Can't say that I ever heard a superior's wife introduce herself that way.
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Not Ugly:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrzDMWLCAAI6ezn.jpg:large)
Ugly:
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I can see Dutch running to start up a twitter account. :rofl:
https://twitter.com/HollyRFisher
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Correct me if I'm wrong, fellow vets.
No, you're pretty much on the money there.
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jmowreader (27,824 posts)
Why Holly Fisher pisses me off
You remember Holly. She's the cute but extremely right-wing asshole from West Virginia who posted the "conservative hat trick" picture of her wearing a "Pro Life" t-shirt and holding a Chick Fil A cup while standing in front of a closed Hobby Lobby store. And of course that wasn't good enough for her friends so she followed it up with the famous Suicide Bombing for Jesus pose.
These were supposed to make liberals' "heads explode." Whatever.
No, what's pissing me off about this little ditz is she self-identifies as the "wife of a combat veteran." The Troops call this "wearing your husband's rank" and we ****ing HATE IT!
I'm not a vet so I'm more than happy to accept the wisdom of the people at the Cave who I can trust when they proclaim themselves to be vets over someone at Hate-America Central.
With the above said, I would just imagine that if instead self-identifying as the wife of a combat veteran that she self-identified as a male trapped in a female body and was chanting for the murder of unborn babies and a pecker in every male mouth that the DUmmie would not be pissed off at all.
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These were supposed to make liberals' "heads explode." Whatever.
It made yours explode..."Mission Accomplished"
No, what's pissing me off about this little ditz is she self-identifies as the "wife of a combat veteran." The Troops call this "wearing your husband's rank" and we ****ing HATE IT!
Whats this "we"you speak of sh*tbag?
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So she doesn't sacrifice at all while her husband serves overseas? Dummies are dumb.
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It made yours explode..."Mission Accomplished"
Whats this "we"you speak of sh*tbag?
As this is a DUmmy shooting off it's soup cooler, I'd imagine - since no self respecting mouse would get within 100 yards of a dirty, filthy DUmmy hippie's pocket - that it's either referring to the tiny livestock that have hitched a ride on the DUmmy's filthy scalp, or the carrion eaters that tracked the DUmmy's stench and are now constantly orbiting overhead.
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I can see Dutch running to start up a twitter account. :rofl:
https://twitter.com/HollyRFisher
Naw. I don't **** other people's wives.
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I have personally never, EVER heard a spouse introduce herself this way, and I've served in the military or with the military for the past 23 years. Anyone else?
I have heard a few call themselves COL so and so's wife, Barbara... or whatever. Usually total swarms of bitches do that.
One of my good friends and had been my boss over and over through the years, his wife would say, "Hi! I'm Kay. I'm Tommy's wife." and generally jerk her thumb over to Tommy who was usually at the bar with the rest of us.
Tommy being Tommy Metz. When he had III Corps down in Fort Hood I ran into him when I got back from Iraq. Saw him in the building and when he saw me shouted out my name across the plaze. He came over and gave me a hug and then cancelled his afternoon appointments so he could take me to lunch.
That night his wife called mine at home and the chatted for an hour.
She never wore his rank. She felt it was her job to help out the other military wives, not be in charge of them.
My ex-wife still calls herself the former wife of a combat vet when talking about military things. Two of our sons are currently serving, Jake is a combat cameraman in Korea, Matt is a combat medic in Ft. Sill.
Anyway- moral of the story: Stop looking at dog's balls.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tSfklUgWyEw/TEQdf42pf_I/AAAAAAAACMU/COyx06OWTvs/s1600/12860059.jpg)
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She never wore his rank. She felt it was her job to help out the other military wives, not be in charge of them.
I'm with you, the ones we knew worked their asses off looking after the families of the men who served under their husbands.
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Anyway- moral of the story: Stop looking at dog's balls.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tSfklUgWyEw/TEQdf42pf_I/AAAAAAAACMU/COyx06OWTvs/s1600/12860059.jpg)
Yeah, it makes us self-conscious.
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It wasn't that long ago that military wives were expected to be seen and not heard. They didn't pursue careers, nor did they stray very far from the household. Their job was to raise the kids, support hubby in every aspect, and to put on a veil of contentment.
My first girlfriend's mother and father were classic examples. He was a SAC colonel and she was an alcoholic. Of course when husband and wife are separated for long periods, as is the case with many military families, infidelity is as common as alcoholism. Both were rampant in the military in the 60's and 70's.
In the case of divorce, she was pretty much out in the cold. She could get short term alimony, and child support, but when the youngest turned 18, she was out of luck. Today she can tap hubby's retirement benefits for as long as he collects them. I'm not sure that's fair in every case, but the Pentagon thought it was.
Let's face it, military marriage can be very taxing. I've been out for a long time, so I don't know what the current situation is concerning counseling and support groups, but I know that the more emphasis put into preventing potential problems, the better off everyone is in the long run.
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vankuria (487 posts)
1. I'm the wife of a combat veteran
and I find her offensive on so many levels and I never heard the expression "wearing your husbands rank". WTF does that mean??
Three possibilities, and only three:
A). You are lying your ass off.
B). You are one of the dumbest skanks on the planet.
Quite frankly, I am going with:
C). Both.
I have heard a few call themselves COL so and so's wife, Barbara... or whatever. Usually total swarms of bitches do that.
One of my good friends and had been my boss over and over through the years, his wife would say, "Hi! I'm Kay. I'm Tommy's wife." and generally jerk her thumb over to Tommy who was usually at the bar with the rest of us.
My experience was it was much more prevelant in the officer ranks, than the enlisted and primarily in the Master/First Sergeant, Master Gunny/SgtMaj stratosphere. Full bird and above wives were notorious for it.
I was a soldier for 12 years. One of the things every soldier learns about before he ever reaches his first permanent duty station is the Phenomenon of the Professional Spouse - "I'm Mrs. Colonel Smith" or "I'm Mrs. Sergeant Major Jones."
Bullshit (D)Ummie, it was subtle and inferred. Something you don't understand. I never heard it like that either.
Warpy (77,302 posts)
2. Yeah, I can see how this would be incredibly insulting to the people who are actually out there
putting their asses on the line, getting shot at, and hoping they survive long enough to get home and see their youngest child before shipping out to some other hell hole.
Shut. The ****. Up. You stupid, disgusting twat. Just, shut. The ****. Up.
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It wasn't that long ago that military wives were expected to be seen and not heard. They didn't pursue careers, nor did they stray very far from the household. Their job was to raise the kids, support hubby in every aspect, and to put on a veil of contentment.
Good lord. I guess that was more than 50 years ago when I enlisted.
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In my 22 years in the USMC, I only experienced this once, when our squadron XOs wife decided that she was going to organize weekly get-togethers for the officer and staff NCO wives while we were deployed.
My (now ex) wife was caring for two toddlers at the time, plus she just wasn't interested, so she didn't attend. After a month or so she started getting really rude calls from the XOs wife telling her that her attendance was mandatory, and that there would be repercussions if she didn't start showing up. That last part didn't go over well at all, and my ex-wife basically told her to **** off.
First I heard of it was when the XO came to me to apologize for his wife's behavior, I guess she wrote him a letter telling him to order me to order my wife to get with her program. We had a pretty good laugh over the whole thing.
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ChisolmTrailDem (3,468 posts)
11. She's not cute. The ugly...
...deep within her shows on the surface.
I don't care if you're the most beautiful woman or man on the planet. If you are ugly inside, to me you are ugly outside.
She's f'ugly.
Every DUmmie is ugly on the inside and the outside. That much bitterness, jealousy, greed and hatred can not help but manifest itself outwardly.
DUmmies are their own Picture of Dorian Gray.
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No, you're pretty much on the money there.
Yep, never heard that shit either. The closest it came was the rare occasion when some dimbulb JO's wife would say "I'm (fill in the blank rank)'s wife" to demand something. She'd get laughed at, usually by the other dependent wives, and slink off to sulk.
For you DUmbasses keeping score, that was in 22 years of service I never heard that shit you're spouting.
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Warpy (77,302 posts)
2. Yeah, I can see how this would be incredibly insulting to the people who are actually out there
putting their asses on the line, getting shot at, and hoping they survive long enough to get home and see their youngest child before shipping out to some other hell hole.
Like you'd ****ing know, DUmbass... :whatever:
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Good lord. I guess that was more than 50 years ago when I enlisted.
Are you sure? They didn't have don't ask don't tell 50 years ago, did they?
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Jim Mowreader is :mental::
http://www.bartcop.com/060302jim.htm
He "stood in the road" in West Berlin.
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dweeb
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Oh, I was picturing a woman.
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Jim Mowreader is :mental::
http://www.bartcop.com/060302jim.htm
He "stood in the road" in West Berlin.
(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xfa1/t1.0-1/c27.0.160.160/p160x160/26703_1235315243491_3280099_n.jpg)
dweeb
I guess he forgot that it was a Clinton appointed genius that put a wall between the CIA/FBI/MILITARY intelligence agencies sharing information.
Maybe he should stand in the road until he gets run over?
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Oh, I was picturing a woman.
Really though, what's changed?
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Jim Mowreader is :mental::
http://www.bartcop.com/060302jim.htm
He "stood in the road" in West Berlin.
(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xfa1/t1.0-1/c27.0.160.160/p160x160/26703_1235315243491_3280099_n.jpg)
dweeb
Unless he was there before about 1980, he was just sucking down German beer, smoking hash, and watching the Warsaw Pact implode, even if what he said was true, which is always touch-and-go with anything a DUmmtard says.
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jmowreader (27,824 posts)
No, what's pissing me off about this little ditz is she self-identifies as the "wife of a combat veteran." The Troops call this "wearing your husband's rank" and we ****ing HATE IT!
As a OIF vet ( in the sandbox and floating around it) and the wife of an active duty service member I can tell you with some authority that you really need to STFU. :bird:
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jmowreader (27,824 posts)
No, what's pissing me off about this little ditz is she self-identifies as the "wife of a combat veteran." The Troops call this "wearing your husband's rank" and we ****ing HATE IT!
No fu*kstick that's not what is called "wearing your husbands rank".
Pay attention you slow blinking POS let me teach you something here...
Me to reporter from the Coastal Courrier - "I'm sorry ma'am you have to stay behind the rope to take your pictures...no one is allowed on the parade field."
Coastal Courrier Reporter - "That's bullshit! Do you know who my husband is?"
Me - "yes ma'am I do and he wears the rank...you don't."
THAT is a textbook example of a wife wearing..or attempting to wear...her husband's rank.
If that example didn't settle into your grey matter properly...I suggest you check some of the spouses pages on FB...they are rife with wives (overwhelmingly OFFICERS wives :whistling:) who get pissed because the PFC Military Policeman at the front gate doesn't salute her when she drives on post.
Saying you're the wife of a combat vet....that's a special kind of stupid if you think that's considered wearing your hubby's rank.
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jmowreader (27,824 posts)
No, what's pissing me off about this little ditz is she self-identifies as the "wife of a combat veteran." The Troops call this "wearing your husband's rank" and we ****ing HATE IT!
Warpy (77,302 posts)
2. Yeah, I can see how this would be incredibly insulting to the people who are actually out there
putting their asses on the line, getting shot at, and hoping they survive long enough to get home and see their youngest child before shipping out to some other hell hole.
In response to the first quote, I don't see what Mrs. Fisher did as wearing her husband's rank on her sleeve. If she had, she would have said 'as the wife of a colonel who as deployed to combat', for example. This DUche is just dealing with with his cranial/rectal inversion as a result of looking at this picture (i.e. liberal head assploded).
As for Warpy, this is NOT how many soldiers feel about this. As a a COMBAT VETERAN (I earned that title you oxygen-thieving scrunt), I feel what Mrs. Fisher has said has every right t osay she is the wife of a combat vet, just like my wife does. Spouses put up with long separations, late nights wondering if their husband is okay, etc. They've earned that title as well. Shut your mouth and make me a sammich! :bigbird:
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I would rub that ugly all over my face.
Glad there's a happy soldier out there.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025211308
She's hot! and just in case they are looking at the wrong Holly Fisher, here she is. :-)
(http://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/hlpinkhandgun.jpg?w=640&h=470)
(http://www.libertynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/gun-holly-700x884.jpg)
(http://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/hldavidfisher.jpg?w=640&h=493)
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Just another pretty girl with a tattoo! Wonder what it says.
Cindie
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=663743380379928&set=vb.111938618893743&type=2&theater
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As the wife of a Retired (woohoo!) CoastGuardsman, I think she should proudly say she is the wife of a combat veteran. Has nothing whatsoever to do with "wearing his rank" and everything to do with being proud of what her husband does
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As the wife of a Retired (woohoo!) CoastGuardsman, I think she should proudly say she is the wife of a combat veteran. Has nothing whatsoever to do with "wearing his rank" and everything to do with being proud of what her husband does
There are thousands of combat veteran WIDOWS (and widowers) who not only "wore their husband's rank," but now have the "honor" of raising families without said husbands with severe financial hardships, as well as losing their mates.
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The democratic party hates veterans because we took all their slaves away.
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The democratic party hates veterans because we took all their slaves away.
The democrat party does not have slaves....they have Permanent Plantation Residents.
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The democrat party does not have slaves....they have Permanent Plantation Residents.
Right. They were "affirmative action" agricultural trainees.
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once again the Dumpmonkies prove how little hey know of the military and what goes on in it. Snugs is right. never in my over 22 years have I heard any wife pull this crap in person but I have heard of them pulling it through the grapevine and fail at it.
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Naw. I don't **** other people's wives.
She's spoken for? DAMMIT!!
Following her anyway. :-) Nothing better than a sexy Conservative woymnz.