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Title: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: landofconfusion80 on July 07, 2014, 12:44:09 PM
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Marrah_G (24,946 posts)

How do we combat RW radio and news?

 I watched Hotel Rwanda last night. The murder of a million people was propelled through lies and hate spread through the radio there.
 
I see the same sort of thing happening here. Hate radio and propaganda news stations fundamentally change the way people view things. I have seen it in my own birth family after they moved to the south. They are so swarmed with hate talk radio and RW bullshit that they have actually started to believe it. The only way to stop them is to go after the advertisers. Rush has lost most of his advertisers due to public backlash.
 
So the question I throw out for discussion is how do we do this on a wide scale? How do we get the masses to let the advertisers know we won't tolerate it any more?
 
My hope for this thread is that it will be filled with ideas because Duers are some of the smartest folks I know.

Primitive must not know many people.  Surely the smartest people he knows will explain why banning the first amendment is a bad idea....

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leftyohiolib (5,597 posts)

1. i think sandra fluke episode killed political radio. the right is now supported by kock brothers

and not thru ad buys and the left has to goto the i-net. unless the left finds a couple of kock-brothers to support left radio. but people are turning to the right cause the right is telling them what they want to hear
Would they be looking for answers elsewhere if they believed their current condition was satisfactory? hmmm....

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el_bryanto (7,692 posts)

5. Well you have to ask what does RW radio and Fox News provide? Why do Right Wingers seek them out?

They are businesses (although they obviously get subsidies (particularly in the case of RW Radio)), so they provide something their viewers/listeners want.
 
I think what they provide is a space where in RWers know that their beliefs won't be challenged but will be confirmed. If you want to know how people can deny climate change, well, if you listen to Limbaugh and Hannity and watch Fox News, you will be told again and again how it's just a theory and real scientists know that it's all nonsense.
 
I don't think LWers are looking to be cut off from the world in the same way. Yes we have our conspiracy nuts, and we have people who never want to see what the right wing has to say, but they aren't as common. Partially that's because our arguments can generally stand up to more scrutiny, and partially it's because we acknowledge we might be wrong, and so want to see both sides of an issue before we make up our minds.
The other issue is the subsidies mentioned above - many of these outlets had a certain cushion - they could take their time building an audience because the Koch Brothers (for example) would give them that time. I don't think LW outlets have the same cushion.
 
Bryant
Like PBS and NPR?

So much wrong in the bolded....
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: BlueStateSaint on July 07, 2014, 01:04:40 PM
This one stood out to me (in the OP):

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Rush has lost most of his advertisers due to public backlash.

Really?  Then why have advertisers that jumped ship come back to him, on their knees?
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: Rebel on July 07, 2014, 01:18:22 PM
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el_bryanto (7,692 posts)
 
I think what they provide is a space where in RWers know that their beliefs won't be challenged but will be confirmed.

OH the irony.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: obumazombie on July 07, 2014, 01:26:55 PM
OH the irony.  :whatever:
Irony is such a weak word when it comes to libs. It should be isilvery, or igoldy.
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: FlippyDoo on July 07, 2014, 01:32:54 PM
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el_bryanto (7,692 posts)

5. Well you have to ask what does RW radio and Fox News provide? Why do Right Wingers seek them out?

They are businesses (although they obviously get subsidies (particularly in the case of RW Radio)), so they provide something their viewers/listeners want.
 
I think what they provide is a space where in RWers know that their beliefs won't be challenged but will be confirmed. If you want to know how people can deny climate change, well, if you listen to Limbaugh and Hannity and watch Fox News, you will be told again and again how it's just a theory and real scientists know that it's all nonsense.
 
I don't think LWers are looking to be cut off from the world in the same way. Yes we have our conspiracy nuts, and we have people who never want to see what the right wing has to say, but they aren't as common. Partially that's because our arguments can generally stand up to more scrutiny, and partially it's because we acknowledge we might be wrong, and so want to see both sides of an issue before we make up our minds.
The other issue is the subsidies mentioned above - many of these outlets had a certain cushion - they could take their time building an audience because the Koch Brothers (for example) would give them that time. I don't think LW outlets have the same cushion.
 
Bryant

And that's why you post at DU because you want to see both sides of an issue before making up your minds? George Zimmerman says thank you. Global Climate change says thank you. Christians say thank you. Gun owners say thank you. George W. Bush says thank you.

Oh! And you acknowledge you might be wrong? Okay. Good story. By the way, Santa Claus wants to know where you're hiding the easter bunny and the tooth fairy.
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: JohnnyReb on July 07, 2014, 02:08:23 PM
Don't the DUmmies have their side George Sore-ass the Jew that for cash told the Nazis where to find Jews? ....Yes, yes they do.
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: Karin on July 07, 2014, 02:22:58 PM
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lpbk2713 (25,115 posts)

2. Just as an aside ...
 
 It still worries me that Limbaugh is still carried on Armed Forces Radio.
 Even though he has been proven beyond doubt a liar, hatemonger and
 totally against what most of the rest of us believe in.
 

Hey El  Bryanto, you want to talk about bubbles? 

Only 5 replies, the brilliant ideas have not materialized from the smartest people on earth.  Over 25 years now they've been trying to stifle Rush?  It's not working. 
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: Gina on July 07, 2014, 02:25:57 PM
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leftyohiolib (5,597 posts)

1. i think sandra fluke episode killed political radio. the right is now supported by kock brothers

and not thru ad buys and the left has to goto the i-net. unless the left finds a couple of kock-brothers to support left radio. but people are turning to the right cause the right is telling them what they want to hear

Ol Lefty sure does like that word  :rotf:
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: landofconfusion80 on July 07, 2014, 02:38:52 PM
Ol Lefty sure does like that word  :rotf:

Quite the homophobic tone they take when discussing such things.
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on July 07, 2014, 05:45:45 PM
OH the irony.  :whatever:

To which they are completely unaware.

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partially it's because we acknowledge we might be wrong,

"Things that have never happened" for $1000, Alex.
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: Dori on July 07, 2014, 06:58:06 PM
Hey DUmmies, the only people being fooled are you idiots.

I'll tell you why talk radio and FOX are popular....it's because before they came along you could only get leftist views, lies and half truths.

Now that our side finally has a voice, you fascist bass tards can't stand it.



Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: Big Dog on July 07, 2014, 07:48:53 PM
Ol Lefty sure does like that word  :rotf:

... in his mouth.
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: Carl on July 07, 2014, 08:01:32 PM
Hey DUmmies, the only people being fooled are you idiots.

I'll tell you why talk radio and FOX are popular....it's because before they came along you could only get leftist views, lies and half truths.

Now that our side finally has a voice, you fascist bass tards can't stand it.

Dori is going kick ass!  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Primitive Ponders Crushing 1st Amendment
Post by: Ptarmigan on July 07, 2014, 10:27:20 PM
DUmmies are just Fascists.