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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 17, 2014, 09:55:03 AM
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bravenak (4,849 posts)
White supremacy meets “black boy rageâ€: Why Tupac’s needed more today than ever
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rocktivity (38,577 posts)
1. But Tupac's cause of death WAS black boy rage
not white supremacy...
rocktivity
Cal Carpenter (2,624 posts)
2. That's not the point the essay is trying to make though
It is about his voice and message in regard to white supremacy and racism. It's not trying to imply that he was killed by white supremacists or something
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4. I wish the essay had given equal time
to the problem of hiphoppers killing each other just as surely as white supremacists are.
It doesn't matter to me what color a trigger finger is.
rocktivity
A Jury voted 4-3 to hide this post on Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:04 AM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
You'd think wanting to end violence regardless of color would be a fairly non-controversial.
You'd be wrong.
alp227 (25,888 posts)
34. ...and it's gone.
On Mon Jun 16, 2014, 10:50 PM you sent an alert on the following post:
I wish the essay had given equal time
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5108291
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
YOUR COMMENTS
"the problem of hiphoppers killing each other just as surely as white supremacists are. " Wow can you get any more bigoted than this? Actually, to be fair, "hiphoppers killing each other" is dog-whistle speak for "black on black crime". Just like "states' rights" was the more polite version of segregation nostalgia when Reagan spoke in Philadelphia, MS in 1980.
Seriously. If you're gonna distract a discussion about racism against African-Americans by bringing up "well what about all the crap in black culture isn't that to blame?" sorry there's no reasoning whatsoever with you. This is not a "mere opinion" as jurors have said before. Nor "discuss, don't hide". This is naked bigotry. Don't try to say that and say "It doesn't matter to me what color a trigger finger is." This is some "I'm not prejudiced, but..." crap. Yuck!
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Mon Jun 16, 2014, 11:04 PM, and voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I think Rocktivity is posting a caricature of black people. [And yet white supremacy is treated as a viable threat rather than a hollow joke inflated to keep blacks fearful and in line -- SGT SB] That black people have to talk about more than racism but also about black on black crime. Really? You actually suggest that this is not talked about in the black community?
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm sorry alerter. I'm on your side but this post does not violate the TOS or CS of this site.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: First, they are not killing each other. Second, that's an insensitive and ignorant comment. Hiphop is a genre of music just like any other. Leave the corporate media stereotypes at the door before posting about a serious topic that requires some thought and listening.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: At the risk of sounding like a complete dope, I think alerter is reading wa-a-a-ay too much into rocktivity's post.
Thank you.
nomorenomore08 (9,665 posts)
52. Exactly. It's an offensive caricature of a music genre *and* a race.
DU is better off without that sort of post.
Is it just me or is this paragon of the Proglodyte dream society going to tear itself apart?
The place is unlivable.
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28. That's exactly what I mean about trigger fingers having no color.
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Canonizing Tupac as a fallen captain in the war against white supremacy without mentioning that he was fragged by his own side strikes me as inherently dishonest on the parts of both the author and Salon.
I feared that calling them "egotistical money-launderers with beat boxes" would take up too much of DU's bandwidth.
rocktivity
A Jury voted 5-2 to hide this post on Tue Jun 17, 2014, 02:21 AM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
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bravenak (4,849 posts)
55. Craziness. You signed up just to say that?
FedericoT (1 post)
54. Tupac was, and still is, part of the problem
If the black community is ever to progress, the hip hop culture needs to die. Its attitude towards women and homosexuals, along with the victim mentality, is what's keeping many blacks in a mental prison. It holds everyone back and drags them down.
If the black community is to progress it will be in spite of the barriers put in place by the system that targets young men of color and criminalizes them for the color of his skin. Maybe it's not hip hop that's the problem but racism against black men. Nice first post. Your post is what wrong with this nation, broad brushing of young african american males and telling them it is them who is the problem, not this system dedicated to their oppression.
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bravenak (4,849 posts)
57. So, let me get this straight....
Racism is not a problem in this country founded on the destruction of the Native race and the subjugation of the black race? That is one racist statement.
I'd say racism against whites is far more socially acceptable than any other racism.
If a white person wants to discuss something and a female/minority cannot refute the assertion the female/minority need only say, "Check your privilege!" and suddenly freedom to speak openly is suppressed. Even if the honky continues speaking the others will close their minds.
That's how privileged white people really are.
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bravenak (4,849 posts)
61. This is how you see the black community?
And you are trying to say that the europeans basically did the natives a favor by killing them and giving them reservations? On their own land? And since their population has somewhat recovered it's all good?
And you think that young black men are running around shooting each other over a chicken wing? You may as well have said watermelon. These are some of the worst comments i have seen on DU.
JI7 (46,463 posts)
63. my alert on that first post of his failed
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
YOUR COMMENTS
i think this is a troll. even if someone had a problem with hip hop , to say that is the problem in the black community and what is keeping them down ? this sounds like what comes from racists . [Of course it does, you simpering shit-wit. -- SGT SB]
JURY RESULTS
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Tue Jun 17, 2014, 07:31 PM, and voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Looks like a disruptor to me
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nothing in the post that is offensive but assuming that someone's first post marks them as "a troll" is pretty paranoid. Leave.
Bravenak is becoming the racist she imagines she is fighting.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025108205
[youtube]http://youtu.be/21OH0wlkfbc[/youtube]
It's the perfect timin'
See the man signin'
Get up off them goddam diamonds!
Ante up!
Gat that fool
Ante up!
Kidnap that fool
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comment 2498:
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81827.2475
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comment 2498:
http://conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=81827.2475
Weak-minded racist and a slob is no way to go through life, lady.
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Wow. Did Rocktivity really get banned? Honest to God. They try to have an honest conversation about race, and they just end up banning each other, as if that would solve any problem.
And Holder wonders why we're a nation of cowards, afraid to talk about race. You idiots are going to implode Skinner's site.
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Wow. Did Rocktivity really get banned? Honest to God. They try to have an honest conversation about race, and they just end up banning each other, as if that would solve any problem.
That surprised me, too.
Another long-time primitive bites the dust.
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They are sickening.
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Here, DUmmies, is a bitch-slap to the face:
A 2012 study by the Department of Justice’s Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention revealed that in 2010 black youths committed six times more murders, three times more rapes, 10 times more robberies and three times more assaults than did their white counterparts. - See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=14864#sthash.tc5xfyti.dpuf
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Here, DUmmies, is a bitch-slap to the face:
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A 2012 study by the Department of Justice’s Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention revealed that in 2010 black youths committed six times more murders, three times more rapes, 10 times more robberies and three times more assaults than did their white counterparts. - See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=14864#sthash.tc5xfyti.dpuf
....and being that they are about 1/8 of the population that comes to......
A 2012 study by the Department of Justice’s Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention revealed that in 2010 black youths committed six 48 times more murders, three 24 times more rapes, 10 80 times more robberies and three 24 times more assaults than did their white counterparts. - See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=14864#sthash.tc5xfyti.dpuf
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That gave me a headache.
Not recognizing the cultural problems in the black community will never help them get off Uncle Sam's Plantation.
I think the libtards know that, but they can't afford to lose one of their victim classes.
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That gave me a headache.
Not recognizing the cultural problems in the black community will never help them get off Uncle Sam's Plantation.
I think the libtards know that, but they can't afford to lose one of their victim classes.
They treat the f'n Muzzie problem the same way. They do "moderate" Muzzies NO favors in doing so.
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They treat the f'n Muzzie problem the same way. They do "moderate" Muzzies NO favors in doing so.
Do those exist?
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....and being that they are about 1/8 of the population that comes to......
A 2012 study by the Department of Justice’s Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention revealed that in 2010 black youths committed six 48 times more murders, three 24 times more rapes, 10 80 times more robberies and three 24 times more assaults than did their white counterparts. - See more at: http://americanfreepress.net/?p=14864#sthash.tc5xfyti.dpuf
damn
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Do those exist?
Oh yes. A "moderate muzzie" is what you call a dead one.
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They treat the f'n Muzzie problem the same way. They do "moderate" Muzzies NO favors in doing so.
I would guess I am a member of the white privileged class as people different from myself , family and area of up bring always from a young age fascinated me.
Started with religion, visiting the Churches of different faiths All believed in God but their rites were very different.
On to teen years when I began to meet people from other country's, Europe all from the white nations that had come here from different backgrounds. Their food was different, their family's spoke another language, and going to Catholic church with them, the Priests then had a mass in their language, and the Latin Mass to boot.
It was fun for me to meet these kids and a lesson on the world.
First time I met a non white was a family, the mother was Navaho the father Tex-Mex. The father was stationed on a Sub in for refit at the ship yard in the mid 1960's. I had dug their 3 year old out of a ditch he had fallen into and taken him home, I was 19 at the time.
We became fast friends and the education they gave me from both sides of their life was invaluable. Their customs and beliefs were not that far from those I had been raised in.
On and on it went as I aged, and moved about the country with my kids. I met Blacks, Asians, South Americans even a few Lap Landers. What fun for me and my kids to meet people who were so different---but base down just like us.
Not that way today for some reason, when we head South we see suspicion in the eyes of the blacks we meet up with. Someone has caused the southern population to fear us for skin color.
I can not tell you the number of times we white Yankees have gone into stores for gas and food and just because we speak with respect have someone run out to check our license plate.
We got a pass as we were Yankees and different from them. Even the White groups left us alone as did the Black Power of the day. We were free to move from one group to another as we were not aligned with any one group.--------Just stupid Yankees and no threat to anyone.
But we did learn from white and blacks how to cook, how to raise chickens and how to castrate a horse. Wonderful time I and the kids had being able to move between too different cultures.
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I would guess I am a member of the white privileged class as people different from myself , family and area of up bring always from a young age fascinated me.
Started with religion, visiting the Churches of different faiths All believed in God but their rites were very different.
On to teen years when I began to meet people from other country's, Europe all from the white nations that had come here from different backgrounds. Their food was different, their family's spoke another language, and going to Catholic church with them, the Priests then had a mass in their language, and the Latin Mass to boot.
It was fun for me to meet these kids and a lesson on the world.
First time I met a non white was a family, the mother was Navaho the father Tex-Mex. The father was stationed on a Sub in for refit at the ship yard in the mid 1960's. I had dug their 3 year old out of a ditch he had fallen into and taken him home, I was 19 at the time.
We became fast friends and the education they gave me from both sides of their life was invaluable. Their customs and beliefs were not that far from those I had been raised in.
On and on it went as I aged, and moved about the country with my kids. I met Blacks, Asians, South Americans even a few Lap Landers. What fun for me and my kids to meet people who were so different---but base down just like us.
Not that way today for some reason, when we head South we see suspicion in the eyes of the blacks we meet up with. Someone has caused the southern population to fear us for skin color.
I can not tell you the number of times we white Yankees have gone into stores for gas and food and just because we speak with respect have someone run out to check our license plate.
We got a pass as we were Yankees and different from them. Even the White groups left us alone as did the Black Power of the day. We were free to move from one group to another as we were not aligned with any one group.--------Just stupid Yankees and no threat to anyone.
But we did learn from white and blacks how to cook, how to raise chickens and how to castrate a horse. Wonderful time I and the kids had being able to move between too different cultures.
Cool story. Needs more dragons and warlocks and shit.
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Cool story. Needs more dragons and warlocks and shit.
:rofl: