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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gina on June 10, 2014, 03:36:16 PM
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What are your thoughts on the upsurge (it seems) in gun violence?
My little guy here :tinfoil2: says how can it not be something to do with a conspiracy just because of the amount of the crimes recently. Or is the media just reporting every one of them now?
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I don't know what it is on a per capita basis, but if there is an upturn, I would first guess stress from overpopulation.
When I started high school in '52, the US population was about 150 million. Now it's hard to get anywhere without running into people. Also, life is much more noisy and complicated. Then there are politics and the constant flood of news from the "media".
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How many of these kids are on Prozac and Zanax and Ritalin and God knows what other chemicals?
You didn't have that junk 30 years ago.
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Dang laptop won't let me copy and paste????????....well, anyway, there was another school shooting in Oregon today, 2 dead, a student and the shooter.
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How many of these kids are on Prozac and Zanax and Ritalin and God knows what other chemicals?
You didn't have that junk 30 years ago.
I would like to see a study comparing the use of ADHD drugs on kids and the seeming rise of kids going off the rails. 40 years ago, I didn't know of any kids on prescription drugs, but now it seems like every other kid in school is put on some sort of pharmaceuticals.
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I would like to see a study comparing the use of ADHD drugs on kids and the seeming rise of kids going off the rails. 40 years ago, I didn't know of any kids on prescription drugs, but now it seems like every other kid in school is put on some sort of pharmaceuticals.
Yeah but 40+ years ago daddy was allowed to kick your ass and adjust your mental facilities....you know, like he slapped the TV set to straighten up the picture.
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Yeah but 40+ years ago daddy was allowed to kick your ass and adjust your mental facilities....
Yup, and most of the time it worked.......
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Yup, and most of the time it worked.......
My daddy had big feet.....it worked every time here.
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Spot on! Every one of these shooters/suicides are drug related! That and the media's anti gun agenda only reports the gut wrenchers! The children!! The tons of gang related shooting only get press in stats!
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I would like to see a study comparing the use of ADHD drugs on kids and the seeming rise of kids going off the rails. 40 years ago, I didn't know of any kids on prescription drugs, but now it seems like every other kid in school is put on some sort of pharmaceuticals.
I'd also like to see how many pharmaceuticals these kids are on. Every kid I know that is on an ADHD med is also on something for depression or something else.
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I think there is no question that since the mental institutions were closed, things changed for the worse.
After two years, Ms. Cullison abandoned her search for professional help and tried marijuana. Her mother, Carolyn Cullison, who is the director of a mental-health peer support group, said that helped push away the demons. But in May, while living together, the pair argued. Ms. Cullison apologized, retreated to a bedroom and shot herself. She was 26.
As hard as it might be to acknowledge having a mental-health illness, finding professional help can be even harder.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304281004579218204163263142
I saw a report about this just Sunday. The sheriff of Cook County said most inmates in his jails are mentally ill and released after a short time.
One only needs to look at the recent shooters. Read the link in my sig, "Is the ACLU responsible for Newtown ?"
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I really despise conspiracy theories.
But with Obama, I simply cannot discount them. I'm thinking thoughts with this president that I've never thought of any president before.
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34 School shooters/school related violence committed by those under the influence of psychiatric drugs (http://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/)
Another Mass Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug? Federal Investigation Long Overdue (http://www.cchrint.org/2012/07/20/the-aurora-colorado-tragedy-another-senseless-shooting-another-psychotropic-drug/)
Psychiatric Drugs & Violence—The Facts
Psychiatric Drugs—Regulatory Warnings on Violence, Mania, Psychosis, Homicide
Fact: There have been 22 international drug regulatory warnings issued on psychiatric drugs causing violence, mania, hostility, aggression, psychosis, and other violent type reactions (See full list at the bottom of this page). These warnings have been issued in the United States, European Union, Japan, United Kingdom, Australia and Canada.
Fact: At least least 31 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 162 wounded and 72 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs).
Of the 31 shooters documented to be under the influence of psychiatric drugs, ten were seeing either a psychiatrist or psychologist. See the list of school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence by those on psychiatric drugs here.
School shooters aren’t the only cases commonly found to be under the influence of psychiatric drugs here is a list of 12 more recent murders and murder-suicides, committed by individuals taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in an additional 46 dead and 23 wounded.
CCHRINT (http://www.cchrint.org/psychiatric-drugs/drug_warnings_on_violence/)
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34 School shooters/school related violence committed by those under the influence of psychiatric drugs (http://www.cchrint.org/school-shooters/)
Another Mass Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug? Federal Investigation Long Overdue (http://www.cchrint.org/2012/07/20/the-aurora-colorado-tragedy-another-senseless-shooting-another-psychotropic-drug/)
CCHRINT (http://www.cchrint.org/psychiatric-drugs/drug_warnings_on_violence/)
We make light of the fact that one or more of the DUmmies are likely to go off the rails and commit some mass murder, but seeing that and knowing how many of them are on psych altering drugs, it might not be so far fetched.
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If it really is greater then before and not just a result of increased media awareness due to Internet and 24/7 cable then I would attribute it to a combination of the special snowflake mentality and the local schools ascribing an alphabet disorder to every behavior problem.
There is no discipline or acceptance of the fact that life often is not "fair" or kind more often or not.
The result is a person that believes to the core that every real or perceived slight must be made right by a higher power and when that does not happen reacts with the emotional maturity of a 5 year old.
Coincidentally or not that also is the average maturity level of a DUmp dwelling crazy.
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Agree that "psychiatric" drugs play a huge role, but mho is that it isn't just that. Or maybe it's an aggravating factor.
All of the "boy bad- girls good", reverse bullying wrt to gay/ straight, anti-racism, & now, "white privilege" bs- white male children are bombarded with guilt & conditioned to self-loathing from the time they start school & in the media. Because of the way they were born & stuff that they cannot change (gender, skin color, social status) They're being mind****ed (please pardon me) seven ways to Sunday. I'm surprised there aren't more kids/ young adults flipping out.
Really. What (more) have they got to lose?
The ones that aren't chimpin' out are staying home, not able to find work, not starting families. They're burying themselves in gaming & "social media" instead.
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I really despise conspiracy theories.
But with Obama, I simply cannot discount them. I'm thinking thoughts with this president that I've never thought of any president before.
I know. It's probably just him jumping on things right away such as gun laws but just like those idiots that killed the 3 people in Las Vegas a few days ago. A few days before that Eric Holder come out and says he is going to double down on domestic terrorism just out of the blue. Just so weird.
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These guys are saying that it's not true. There aren't more shootings, with charts:
http://www.businessinsider.com/america-isnt-becoming-more-violent-2014-6 (http://www.businessinsider.com/america-isnt-becoming-more-violent-2014-6)
(http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/5399fb0169bedd2b745241b2-931-600/screen%20shot%202014-06-12%20at%203.07.09%20pm.png)
Note the blue line " number of incidents, the red is victims
(http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/539b154deab8ea9f56f6f6f0-513-572/screen%20shot%202014-06-13%20at%2011.13.04%20am.png)
And over all gun deaths from the ninety's
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What are your thoughts on the upsurge (it seems) in gun violence?
My little guy here :tinfoil2: says how can it not be something to do with a conspiracy just because of the amount of the crimes recently. Or is the media just reporting every one of them now?
There is no upsurge in gun violence.
Theres an upsurge in reporting, and an upsurge in attempts to politicize.
Gun violence is at...IIRC...a 20 year low.
There are some ten thousand firearm homicides yearly, aproximately.
The other 20,000 "gun deaths" are suicides...which one really has to stretch to count as "gun violence".
Not that it has stopped the anti-gun loons or even slowed them down, from misrepresenting that 20,000 as something it isn't.
CMD
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We make light of the fact that one or more of the DUmmies are likely to go off the rails and commit some mass murder, but seeing that and knowing how many of them are on psych altering drugs, it might not be so far fetched.
That is something I always think in the back of my mind.
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Agree that "psychiatric" drugs play a huge role, but mho is that it isn't just that. Or maybe it's an aggravating factor.
All of the "boy bad- girls good", reverse bullying wrt to gay/ straight, anti-racism, & now, "white privilege" bs- white male children are bombarded with guilt & conditioned to self-loathing from the time they start school & in the media. Because of the way they were born & stuff that they cannot change (gender, skin color, social status) They're being mind****ed (please pardon me) seven ways to Sunday. I'm surprised there aren't more kids/ young adults flipping out.
Really. What (more) have they got to lose?
The ones that aren't chimpin' out are staying home, not able to find work, not starting families. They're burying themselves in gaming & "social media" instead.
Agree, but, one does not count in the movies that glorify blood and guts. The video games that take fun to a gruesome level or the effect of semi-porn on males at a time when their hormones are raging.
Now I also notice that parents today talk about with the little ears listening about friends, family and politics and will make light of the goings on that are not respectable. Bill Clinton brought the house down in the news and I was among millions of family's that had either youngster's or young Grandkids that came to ask us what a BJ was.
Now in the last few years we have had a Senator arrested for Gay men in a public bathroom, that horses Ass Weiner, and that Governor of NJ that left his job, wife and kids to prance off with another man.
The HERO of the left that Barney Fellow who from Mass. made and enacted laws for us to follow.
What do we expect from the children with all this going on ????
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Now in the last few years we have had a Senator arrested for Gay men in a public bathroom, that horses Ass Weiner, and that Governor of NJ that left his job, wife and kids to prance off with another man.
Oh, great.
Now if someone googles "ass weiner" or "gay horses prance", they'll be directed to this page.
Thanks, vesta!
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That is something I always think in the back of my mind.
I'll take "good reasons to carry a gun" for 500, Alex.
(http://mrhonner.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/jeopardy-board.jpg)
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Oh, great.
Now if someone googles "ass weiner" or "gay horses prance", they'll be directed to this page.
Thanks, vesta!
You are most welcome if I can be of more help-----let me know.
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You are most welcome if I can be of more help-----let me know.
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I blame it on rap music
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I blame it on rap music
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But you may be right. It does seem that gang violence increased along with the popularity of rap. I wonder if there is also a similar correlation between rap and violence against women.