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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 02, 2014, 09:01:48 AM
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scheming daemons (22,087 posts)
The GOP is swift-boating Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl
And it is despicable .
"Support the troops" my ass.
They're more than willing to shit on a US serviceman if it can be used as a tool to bludgeon Obama.
Have they no shame AT ALL?
alsame (7,146 posts)
2. I hope all members of the military,
as well as their families and friends, are paying attention to things the GOP are saying, writing and tweeting. How they can vote GOP is mind boggling.
Yeah.
We're going to come running to the party that calls us war criminals and baby-killers (but only when a Republican president is in the WH) while gutting military spending and forcing what little is left to pursue idiotic leftist policies.
malaise (119,187 posts)
5. Then they're swiftboating all of Idaho
which is a really bad idea politically.
Please proceed ReTHUGs.
Leme (576 posts)
6. ahh, some of this might become public some year
From what little I watch on this, seems he took a walk. Not sure what prompted that. Not sure whether it was just to be a stroll, or a Carlos Castaneda adventure.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025037326
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Leme (576 posts)
6. ahh, some of this might become public some year
From what little I watch on this, seems he took a walk. Not sure what prompted that. Not sure whether it was just to be a stroll, or a Carlos Castaneda adventure.
He willingly went for a walk right into the arms of our enemy. That makes him a traitor, not a POW. You guys (DUmmies) need to wake up from your fantasy world and see the truth.
Your (DUmmies) hero obama, just traded a traitor to set free 5 high level jihadish enemies to our country free.
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Response to the OP
Response to scheming daemons (Original post)
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 09:01 AM
B2G (3,210 posts)
7. Evidently so are some of his fellow soldiers nt
Thread killah.
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He willingly went for a walk right into the arms of our enemy. That makes him a traitor, not a POW. You guys (DUmmies) need to wake up from your fantasy world and see the truth.
Your (DUmmies) hero obama, just traded a traitor to set free 5 high level jihadish enemies to our country free.
Might I add: Bergdahl spouts the exact same anti-US bullshit you'll see any day on DU.
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Yeh there are A LOT of the US military that are going after this guy because of their hatred for Obama :whatever:
6 soldeirs were killed searching for him. He walked. He shipped his possessions home before this happened.
Obama only did his surprise release to get the VA crap out of the media.
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We Lost Soldiers in the Hunt for Bergdahl, a Guy Who Walked Off in the Dead of Night (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/02/we-lost-soldiers-in-the-hunt-for-bergdahl-a-guy-who-walked-off-in-the-dead-of-night.html)
**** Bowe Bergdahl and his terrorist-sympathizing father. Read, DUmbasses. This is from an Army officer that was there. You idiots are always on the wrong side of history.
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Obama only did his surprise release to get the VA crap out of the media.
I think it's going to backfire on him. Just another example of how incompetent this big-eared **** is.
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I think it's going to backfire on him. Just another example of how incompetent this big-eared **** is.
That's what he gets for listening to Bill Ayers.....Bill Ayers is still thinking like it's the 1960's.
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The more I hear about this, the more enraged I become. Especially when six were killed looking for him! He ought to face a firing squad.
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“I am ashamed to be an American. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools,†he concluded. “I am sorry for everything. The horror that is America is disgusting.â€
He's a DUmp democrat!!
No wonder the jug-eared Kenyan released a bunch of top jihadis to get him back.
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Yeh there are A LOT of the US military that are going after this guy because of their hatred for Obama :whatever:
6 soldeirs were killed searching for him. He walked. He shipped his possessions home before this happened.
Obama only did his surprise release to get the VA crap out of the media.
What the DUmmies don't understand is that when DUSTWUN is called EVERYONE stops EVERYTHING and the sole mission of anyone in uniform becomes finding that missing soldier.
The soldiers who took great risks to go into places they normally wouldn't go to find a allegedly captured American soldier...have every right to be upset when they find out that this person they don't know...but are risking their lives to bring back...purposely deserted his post to intentionally seek out the enemy in order to aid and abet them.
If the morons on DU truly knew or cared anything about those of us in uniform they'd be as pissed as I and others are that Bergdahl is being treated like a hero.
IMO I think deep down the DUmmies WANT him treated like a hero because some who deserts the U.S. Military to side with the enemy is a heroic act.
Remember...this is the same group that cheered soldiers who deserted to Canada to avoid deploying to Iraq.
They've been that way since Vietnam...its in their DNA.
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The more I hear about this, the more enraged I become. Especially when six were killed looking for him! He ought to face a firing squad.
That's how I feel too.
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The more I hear about this, the more enraged I become. Especially when six were killed looking for him! He ought to face a firing squad.
Ready to get more upset?
According to a report I read today...a couple days after Bergdahl deserted...the OP he was assigned to was almost completely overrun. They had to declare Broken Arrow in order to prevent the OP from completely being taken by enemy forces...who had never tried such an attack like this before.
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TwilightGardener (41,799 posts)
31. They promoted him because of time in service/time in grade--automatic.
Fellow NCO's/Former NCO's! Check this out!! Who knew? All we had to do is just wait our time and we'd have automatically been promoted to NCO's! Damn!! Those boards. PLDC/WLC, BNCOC, etc. We could have skipped all that? :banghead:
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Remember...this is the same group that cheered soldiers who deserted to Canada to avoid deploying to Iraq.
They've been that way since Vietnam...its in their DNA.
These are the assholes that cheered on Saddam, talked about his "package", while trashing Bush. This is why we cannot, and never will be able to, live with these ****ers. They are diametrically opposed to everything this nation stands for. It's why a split is inevitable. This isn't Democrats/Republicans of the old days where they all had at least a few things in common, one being the love of this nation, we've crossed Nad's Rubicon. We're dealing with Communists here.
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Ready to get more upset?
According to a report I read today...a couple days after Bergdahl deserted...the OP he was assigned to was almost completely overrun. They had to declare Broken Arrow in order to prevent the OP from completely being taken by enemy forces...who had never tried such an attack like this before.
I read that. So it means possibly that he gave information to the terrorists right?
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Fellow NCO's/Former NCO's! Check this out!! Who knew? All we had to do is just wait our time and we'd have automatically been promoted to NCO's! Damn!! Those boards. PLDC/WLC, BNCOC, etc. We could have skipped all that? :banghead:
The depth of military knowledge at the DUmp couldn't fill a thimble.
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I read that. So it means possibly that he gave information to the terrorists right?
Someone had to tell the Taliban where the weak spots in the defenses were so they could be exploited.
And I don't believe in coincidence.
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These are the assholes that cheered on Saddam, talked about his "package", while trashing Bush. This is why we cannot, and never will be able to, live with these ****ers. They are diametrically opposed to everything this nation stands for. It's why a split is inevitable. This isn't Democrats/Republicans of the old days where they all had at least a few things in common, one being the love of this nation, we've crossed Nad's Rubicon. We're dealing with Communists here.
Amen brother. Well said.
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The depth of military knowledge at the DUmp couldn't fill a thimble.
Fill, Hell, there'd be room left over for a half-shot of the good stuff.
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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 11:07 AM
Star Member mopinko (41,194 posts)
13. i gotta think, at this point, they have screwn the pooch.
between this and the blatant lies on the va situation, and i gotta think that their fat, fat base of veterans is gonna sit this one out.
in fact, it would be a fun little project for the du brain trust to map out the heavily retired military districts and just watch them suckers go red to blue come nov 4.
What blatant lies, you skanky ugly old whore? And if you truly believe this, you're an insane, delusional, skanky ugly old whore who lives in utter trash.
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Must. Suppress. Story!
cali (93,032 posts)
Can we NOT disseminate the right wing meme that Bergdahl was a deserter here at DU?
Please, for the love of reason, stop. Just stop and think for one blessed minute. Bergdahl has not been court martialed and frankly even if he is, war takes a terrible toll and I have sympathy for those that crack under its stresses. The right wing is busy, busy, busy spreading pernicious apocryphal crap for political reasons.
And some of you are busy, busy, busy helping them do it.
What a shame.
sufrommich (15,304 posts)
4. This. It's swiftboating at this point. nt
Which was also true.
malaise (119,189 posts)
24. Agreed in principle but you must mean the Right wing chickenhawk meme
because not one of those ReTHUG scumbags signed up for military duty.
jberryhill (34,144 posts)
27. It doesn't matter one way or another
And the notion that discussions at DU have some sort of impact on the wider world is, IMHO, not accurate.
It takes one little prick to burst their bubble.
Omaha-ha-ha Steve posts a CNN article which is followed by this:
bigtree (51,405 posts)
32. more folks quoted who don't possess any more facts about his capture than the rest of the media
. . .it's a campaign of innuendo, at this point, until all of the facts are revealed in some sort of investigation or hearing.
But we do know for certain Dick Cheney had Pat Tillman assassinated.
riderinthestorm (15,452 posts)
33. Fellow soldiers who are speculating with no eye witness account of what happened.
If Bergdahl was disliked by his fellow soldiers because he wasn't gung-ho enough, I can see them jumping to that conclusion.
Fact is, none of them saw Bergdahl leave. Nobody but Bergdahl knows at the moment what really happened despite what irresponsible journalists write in hopes of feeding the right wing smear machine.
Yeah. It's way easy to go missing from a COP on the Af-Pak border.
Could happen to anyone...
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...who's a deserter.
Star Member bigtree (51,405 posts)
31. folks popping up with that meme are characteristically uninformed
. . . about history, precedent, and policy. Moreover, they are mired in internet rumor and glaringly devoid of actual facts to support their yammering about the Sgt's conduct before or after capture.
The only real fact is OIF was a goal to steal Iraq's oil.
The_Commonist (2,217 posts)
34. Well...
I have a friend who recently retired from the Army, as a full Colonel. She's anything but a "right-winger." She did tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now she raises bees and goats and strawberries and posts memes on Facebook about feminism and income inequality. [Just say "dyke" already. Jeez! -- SGT SB]
She seems convinced that he deserted. From inside info.
And yes, she's happy he was rescued, feels bad for him, and would trade 5 Talibaners for one GI any day.
But, not everything we don't like is a "right wing meme."
Skidmore (31,359 posts)
38. After the number the military did on Pat Tillman and his family,
I will await an investigation and not rely on hearsay from faceless and nameless people on a chatboard.
Skidmore (31,359 posts)
36. I seriously don't understand why even those in his unit would not give him the benefit
of the doubt. Even if he did walk away, his state of mind is very much something to be considered. With all the controversy around PTSD and the the treatment of mental health issues in the military, the possibility of him being in acute distress was the first thing to come to mind for me when this rumor started circulating. What if he was suicidal?
Bowe Bergdahl deserves a chance to heal in privacy and safety.
PS. I'm so sick of seeing John McCain trotted out there to comment in his "tut, tut" sanctimonious way. This guy has been wrong so many times on issues of war and peace and human interactions in general. He needs to sit down and quit interjecting himself.
His state of mind is: Proglodyte.
Blanks (2,206 posts)
43. It's possible that even if he deserted, he was under orders...
We do all sorts of things for counter-intelligence and counter-counter-intelligence.
They sure as hell aren't going to tell us - if he was on a top secret mission to gather intelligence on the Taliban, they (his fellow soldiers) wouldn't know either.
The folks who traded for him would know, but we may never know. I read something a few years ago about the family of Benedict Arnold trying to 'clear his name' because (according to them) he was on a mission to infiltrate enemy forces when he 'betrayed' us.
We can't just broadcast our intelligence plans in the open - a lot of people wouldn't approve.
* I am in no way affiliated with military intelligence. Pure speculation.
If it happened on Obama's watch intelligence has nothing to do with it.
joeybee12 (46,984 posts)
45. I think the soldier who wrote that is a teabagger who hates Obama...
And whatever he did he has to find fault with...even making up shit.
Bush stole the election.
SleeplessinSoCal (2,329 posts)
58. first though, its another way to empty Gitmo
wish we could empty the place this way.
Bergdahl's father tweeted the exact same thing.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025037691
Yep. He's one of theirs.
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malaise (119,189 posts)
24. Agreed in principle but you must mean the Right wing chickenhawk meme
because not one of those ReTHUG scumbags signed up for military duty.
I count at least 4 people in this thread at CC that either served, or are actively serving. How many do you have in your thread, jackass?
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Yeh, I served under Clinton (Gosh it was gross to say that) :bird:
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The reichwingers are jumping to conclusions, he is obviously innocent.
I'm going to predict that after the military gives him his honorable discharge, and he gets his book published, he will return to Afghanistan as a hero.
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I count at least 4 people in this thread at CC that either served, or are actively serving. How many do you have in your thread, jackass?
And on TOS (which we assume is included in their blanket), there are hundreds, including its founder. And John McCain has also been a vocal skeptic on this -- anyone at the DUmp want to put their military service up against his, including his rejection of a Get Out of POW Free card? Hey DUmp: Anyone?
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Yeh, I served under Clinton (Gosh it was gross to say that) :bird:
You served to support the American people (thank you!). clinton was the captain below decks at the time.
I need not remind you that clinton's crappy foreign policy put so many of you unnecessarily in harm's way. You get extra credit for making it through...
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Yeh, I served under Clinton (Gosh it was gross to say that) :bird:
Make that 5 then.
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Bergdahl's father tweeted the exact same thing.
Yup. Patriot Update has a screenshot of the tweet, which reads, "@ABalkhi I am still working to free all Guantanamo prisoners. God will repay for the death of every Afghan child, ameen!"
Effed up.
Six now, Reb . . . :cheersmate:
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Make that 5 then.
I think CC is quite well represented in the military arena.
It would be interesting to see how well.
I would start a poll, but people are still a little skeptical of me (or are still POd with good reason). Maybe you or another respected CCer could do a survey...?
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Blanks (2,206 posts)
.... I read something a few years ago about the family of Benedict Arnold trying to 'clear his name' because (according to them) he was on a mission to infiltrate enemy forces when he 'betrayed' us.
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What you read would have been unfettered bullshit, primitive. Arnold started negotiating with the British almost two years before the events at West Point occurred. Had he been able to catch Washington, which he almost did, he would have been set for life. The reason for the correspondence that Major Andre was carrying correspondence that night is that they had missed their earlier opportunity and were hoping to catch Washington as he returned. George Washington did everything he could for the man.
Washington crossed through West Point traveling to Connecticut to meet with the French. Arnold tried to have a contingent of Royal Marines ambush Washington, but there was not enough time to arrange an ambush by the time the British got the message. The three members of the New York militia that caught Major Andre were mostly engaged in highway robbery and realized what they had. Arnold immediately abandoned his post and headed for New York City.
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The D-tards are determined to go to the mat for Obama's PR stunt and it's going to become a millstone around their necks.
The man behind the Facebook group “Bowe Bergdahl is NOT a Hero!†isn’t, as most would initially believe, some conservative crank mad at the Obama administration for swapping five Taliban prisoners in exchange for the American prisoner of war. According to Jake Tapper, Greg Leatherman, the creator of the group, was actually one of Bergdahl’s squad leaders before he disappeared and allegedly abandoned his post.
The page was created last Saturday, the day Bergdahl was released, and has become a gathering place for fellow soldiers to air their many grievances against Bergdahl, whom they consider a deserter both directly and indirectly responsible for the lives of dozens of soldiers. While many of his former squad members have told their stories to the press, the level of animosity on the 8,000 member-strong Facebook page is vitriolic, to say the least. Here’s a random sampling via screenshot:
(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Screen-Shot-2014-06-02-at-2.43.28-PM.png)
http://www.mediaite.com/online/admin-of-anti-bergdahl-facebook-group-revealed-as-former-squad-leader/
My only regret in this whole matter is how much this is undermining military respect for civil authority. This is a breach of trust that will endure long past Obama's term ends. I doubt he planned it that way but I'll wager he's OK with that.
However, on the plus side the Proglodytes are racing headlong to hitch their wagons to Bergdahl.
We need to make sure they are never allowed to forget that fact.
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Yeh, I served under Clinton (Gosh it was gross to say that) :bird:
The very CinC who, as a youngster with deferments for Oxford, wrote that he "loathed the military.'
I retired before the Clinton years.
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The very CinC who, as a youngster with deferments for Oxford, wrote that he "loathed the military.'
I retired before the Clinton years.
You didn't miss anything. By his second term, it was abundantly clear to those of us in the Army and our brother Marines that all he cared about was getting his end wet and his own political butt, and he would never initiate the commitment of ground troops to combat, no matter how great the provocation. Osama, Saddam, al-Assad, and the ayatollahs in Iran read him like a book, a simple one at that. It was f#@king embarrassing.
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As usual, the hypocrisy at DU is so thick you cold cut it with a knife.
Firstly, regarding Bergdahl's apparent desertion, the same crowd that is always ready to automatically convict and punish in situations like a white guy killing a black guy, or a conservative being accused of anything, is now pleading vociferously to "wait until the facts come out", "not rush to judgement", and "let due process take its course without speculating."
Secondly, their concern for troops' treatment as a POWs, the harsh psychological impact of war, etc., rings hollow in light of their years of blaming the soldiers themselves for their predicament, "blindly following orders and volunteering to participate in an illegal war" (see John McCain). Normally they would display a "that's what you get" attitude.
Lastly, their general support of any serviceman or -woman after the years of disdain and outright hatred they've displayed towards the military is sickening, doubly so since the only ones they seem to be able to get behind are fakes, liars and traitors.
They'll do anything to back up their god-king Obama, though, and try to distract from his unmitigated ****-up of a presidency.
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You didn't miss anything. By his second term, it was abundantly clear to those of us in the Army and our brother Marines that all he cared about was getting his end wet and his own political butt, and he would never initiate the commitment of ground troops to combat, no matter how great the provocation. Osama, Saddam, al-Assad, and the ayatollahs in Iran read him like a book, a simple one at that. It was f#@king embarrassing.
There was a n event where Clinton was going to meet and greet my unit back in the day. My squad leader at the time asked me what I would do if he were to come up to me to shake my hand. I told him I would spit in his hand and then do an about face. It is safe to say that I never got the chance.
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I'm sure the jug-eared Kenyan sees a couple of bright sides to the dustup over this deserter/POW.
He has reinforced the muzzies by releasing five top guys, and no one has mentioned the VA or Benghazi since last week.
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Blanks (2,206 posts)
43. It's possible that even if he deserted, he was under orders...
We do all sorts of things for counter-intelligence and counter-counter-intelligence.
They sure as hell aren't going to tell us - if he was on a top secret mission to gather intelligence on the Taliban, they (his fellow soldiers) wouldn't know either.
The folks who traded for him would know, but we may never know. I read something a few years ago about the family of Benedict Arnold trying to 'clear his name' because (according to them) he was on a mission to infiltrate enemy forces when he 'betrayed' us.
We can't just broadcast our intelligence plans in the open - a lot of people wouldn't approve.
* I am in no way affiliated with military intelligence. Pure speculation.
Gee, sure coulda fooled me. I would have never connected the dots on the counter-counter-intelligence angle.
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Yup. Patriot Update has a screenshot of the tweet, which reads, "@ABalkhi I am still working to free all Guantanamo prisoners. God will repay for the death of every Afghan child, ameen!"
Effed up.
Six now, Reb . . . :cheersmate:
Seven. And then some.
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So the primitives think Bergdahl is worth getting worked up over (no mention of the terrorist swap), but the violent deaths of four Americans in Libya are not.
I guess we all have our priorities.
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As usual, the hypocrisy at DU is so thick you cold cut it with a knife.
Firstly, regarding Bergdahl's apparent desertion, the same crowd that is always ready to automatically convict and punish in situations like a white guy killing a black guy, or a conservative being accused of anything, is now pleading vociferously to "wait until the facts come out", "not rush to judgement", and "let due process take its course without speculating."
Secondly, their concern for troops' treatment as a POWs, the harsh psychological impact of war, etc., rings hollow in light of their years of blaming the soldiers themselves for their predicament, "blindly following orders and volunteering to participate in an illegal war" (see John McCain). Normally they would display a "that's what you get" attitude.
Lastly, their general support of any serviceman or -woman after the years of disdain and outright hatred they've displayed towards the military is sickening, doubly so since the only ones they seem to be able to get behind are fakes, liars and traitors.
They'll do anything to back up their god-king Obama, though, and try to distract from his unmitigated ****-up of a presidency.
Great post. It's definitely a telling sign. We all know damn well when the leftists start trying to sound like the voice of reason, something else is going on and they don't want it out in the light.
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@JohnnyReb, the sixties *didn't* end- for them or for us. They just moved deeper underground & then a few of them surface when 0bama was elected (& after the newly empowered democrats in Congress cleared the way for them).
@Rebel ( :-D must be rebel day at the CC?) Exactly!
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Make it eight.
Hooah!
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Still enraged.
I think it's hilarious and pathetic that Cali is saying, "don't spread this around on DU!!!!!!" Do any of them realize what the internet looked like yesterday afternoon?
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Make it eight.
Hooah!
Don't forget to count the military/retired military spouses that also post here.
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Make it eight.
Hooah!
Nine, here.
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There was a n event where Clinton was going to meet and greet my unit back in the day. My squad leader at the time asked me what I would do if he were to come up to me to shake my hand. I told him I would spit in his hand and then do an about face. It is safe to say that I never got the chance.
A high-five for that one!
:cheersmate:
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This guy won't last long:
Traybee (7 posts)
46. 6 better men died
Because this traitorous scumbag joined the enemy.
TIME: The 6 U.S. Soldiers Who Died Searching for Bowe Bergdahl
<pics and names of the fallen>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025037326
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This guy won't last long:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025037326
:lmao: I think that guy is a mole.
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:lmao: I think that guy is a mole.
Not so much a mole as someone outright challenging them.
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Not so much a mole as someone outright challenging them.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in8b1XQfGeU[/youtube]
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(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/burnsk73/deletedpost-1_zps8c51de47.png)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/burnsk73/deletedpost-2_zpse5b015da.png)
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This is how they prove the GOP hates soldiers while they themselves are only after DA TROOF!
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Rebel, thanks so much for screencapping that.
DUmmies, do you have any idea what's going on off the island? You just removing the post changes nothing. God, you're loathsome.
I've just been to the ABC News website; not a RWNJ site, just a general source. There are 1,084 comments attached to the Bergdahl story, and I've yet to find a single one that reflects the DUmp's despicable views. Not one.
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I've just been to the ABC News website; not a RWNJ site, just a general source. There are 1,084 comments attached to the Bergdahl story, and I've yet to find a single one that reflects the DUmp's despicable views. Not one.
To them that just proves the charge that Fox and Limbaugh have poisoned the mind of Americans.
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To them that just proves the charge that Fox and Limbaugh have poisoned the mind of Americans.
I don't have cable/sat/dish so I don't watch FOX NEWS and don't listen to Rush ....so, it must be in the water.
Word to wise DUmmies, DON'T DRINK THE WATER....or breathe because it may be in the chemtrails.
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Add me to the list of Veterans that thinks somethings wrong with why that kid went missing . His own fellow troops are selling him out as the traitor he is and that says enough to at least have him brought to a trial.
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The guy most pissed about all this? Shinseki.
Two more days and he could have ridden out the storm.
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Yeh, I served under Clinton (Gosh it was gross to say that) :bird:
Not on your knees, I hope!
Cindie
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Is Bergdahl a white hispanic ?
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Don't forget to count the military/retired military spouses that also post here.
Son of a Korean War vet here...
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Not on your knees, I hope!
Cindie
I was this close to an E4 rank! :whistling:
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The guy most pissed about all this? Shinseki.
Two more days and he could have ridden out the storm.
No wonder Carney quit. He probably knew this was another scandal ready to blow up. Especially after he had a press conference last year assuring reporters that they would notify congress 30 days in advance of release of the Gitmo detainees.
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No wonder Carney quit. He probably knew this was another scandal ready to blow up. Especially after he had a press conference last year assuring reporters that they would notify congress 30 days in advance of release of the Gitmo detainees.
Every time I see a picture of Carney on the news, he looks like he's about to cry. Maybe the Fox News photographer is just good at his job.
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Son of a Korean War vet here...
Son of a WWII DAV and brother to Army vet here.