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Title: Smarterer than you: Held in the Bonds of Stupidity, edition
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 02, 2014, 08:22:55 AM
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marmar (64,430 posts)

Infrastructure Sticker Shock: Financing Costs Exceed Construction

This piece first appeared at Web of Debt.

“The numbers are big. There is sticker shock,” said Jason Peltier, deputy manager of the Westlands Water District, describing Governor Jerry Brown’s plan to build two massive water tunnels through the California Delta. “But consider your other scenarios. How much more groundwater can we pump?”

Whether the tunnels are the best way to get water to the Delta is controversial, but the issue here is the cost. The tunnels were billed to voters as a $25 billion project. However, that estimate omitted interest and fees. Construction itself is estimated at a relatively modest $18 billion. But financing through bonds issued at 5% for 30 years adds $24-40 billion to the tab. Another $9 billion will go to wetlands restoration, monitoring and other costs, bringing the grand total to $51-67 billion – three or four times the cost of construction.

A general rule for government bonds is that they double the cost of projects, once interest has been paid.

The San Francisco Bay Bridge earthquake retrofit was originally slated to cost $6.3 billion, but that was just for salaries and physical materials. With interest and fees, the cost to taxpayers and toll-payers will be over $12 billion. .............(more)

The complete piece is at: 

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/infrastructure_sticker_shock_financing_costs_exceed_construction_20140601

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Scuba (38,102 posts)

1. We will soon be prohibited from drinking water or breathing unless Wall Street makes money on it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025037235

Government bonds = Wall Street?

 :thatsright:

And don't you love it how Proglodytes will constantly tell you "I don't mind paying a little extra in taxes if it means helping [Proglodyte lunacy du jour]" or the old saw "It's an investment that will show a positive return!" yet they are grousing maintaining their own water resources.
Title: Re: Smarterer than you: Held in the Bonds of Stupidity, edition
Post by: thundley4 on June 02, 2014, 07:12:27 PM
Issuing bonds to finance government projects is just another way of forcing taxes to be raised later on.
Title: Re: Smarterer than you: Held in the Bonds of Stupidity, edition
Post by: Mr Mannn on June 02, 2014, 07:24:23 PM
Liberal logic at work.
Liberal hell state, with conservatives out of power for decades. Unions and lawmakers gouging money and inflating cost of a govt project.


and yet, Wall Street is blamed.