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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on May 24, 2014, 08:34:28 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/11583120
Oh my.
By the way, the cbayer primitive got plastered last night (Friday night), drunk out of her gourd, drunker than a skunk.
Paper Roses (5,024 posts) Wed May 21, 2014, 04:53 PM
Suggestions needed: Best cleaner for painted plaster walls and painted woodwork.
I am in the process of preparing my house for sale. I cannot afford a professional to paint either the inside or outside of my house. Current circumstances require that I do the work myself. I used to do everything but 'old age' has slowed me down.
I have tried Simple Green, Mr. Clean, Greased Lightning and a couple of other cleaners before but I have never thought the job looked good. The painted plaster and the woodwork are in good order, just need a cleaning. Do you have any suggestions about a more effective all-purpose cleaner? I'll never have the energy to do it twice and will do one or 2 walls at a time.
I would like the house to look fresh and clean for any prospective buyers. The outside will have to remain in need of paint, no funds available for that job.
Any suggestions would be a great help.
On edit: The cleaner I need to use would be the type to be mixed with water in a bucket, not something to be sprayed directly on the walls.
X_Digger (15,401 posts) Wed May 21, 2014, 05:32 PM
1. Wow, greased lightning didn't do the job?
That stuff should come with rubber gloves, it's so powerful.
I would have recommended simple green as a good balance between power and safety.
JimDandy (3,779 posts) Wed May 21, 2014, 06:10 PM
2. I'm dealing with that right now too
at my parent's home. If the plaster is smooth, use a mop with a brand new sponge head (the dense yellow kind) and dawn dish detergent. Make sure to vacuum any cobwebs first, then start at the top of the wall and mop down in even rows with a little overlap (like using a paint roller). The mop should be rinsed and wrung out fairly well after each 1/2 to full row.
If the paint is flat, wring the mop out fairly dry and use a lighter pressure, short strokes, a smaller angle and an appropriate amount of elbow grease. Change the rinse water very frequently. Mopping works also on the wood work. For scuff marks of any color use a rag with a little comet and scrub a couple times directly on the marks and they will come up almost immediately.
If the plaster is textured you will need to go the tedious route with a tough, non-colored rag that won't leave filaments behind. (Had to do this in a textured hallway and it was a chore!)
Good luck and take lots of breaks.
ret5hd (10,399 posts) Fri May 23, 2014, 08:21 AM
3. TSP?
If you use it, be sure to wear gloves and safety glasses.
You know, the chronically-helpless primitive is always whining about "poverty," yet at the same time seems to have enough money laying around to buy yet more of what Judy grasswire calls her "treasures."
Her house is packed to the rafters with used goods she hopes to.....eventually.....sell on eBay.
One time, she hired a professional eBay seller to sell the stuff, and it was sold. For the first time in years, decades, the chronically-helpless primitive was able to use her dining-room table.
And then she turned right around and filled it all up again.
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Paper Roses (5,024 posts) Wed May 21, 2014, 04:53 PM
Suggestions needed: Best cleaner for painted plaster walls and painted woodwork.
I am in the process of preparing my house for sale. I cannot afford a professional to paint either the inside or outside of my house. Current circumstances require that I do the work myself. I used to do everything but 'old age' has slowed me down.
I have tried Simple Green, Mr. Clean, Greased Lightning and a couple of other cleaners before but I have never thought the job looked good. The painted plaster and the woodwork are in good order, just need a cleaning. Do you have any suggestions about a more effective all-purpose cleaner? I'll never have the energy to do it twice and will do one or 2 walls at a time.
I would like the house to look fresh and clean for any prospective buyers. The outside will have to remain in need of paint, no funds available for that job.
Any suggestions would be a great help.
Use gasoline, dummie. Use a lot of it. The ethanol in it will clean those walls right up. Be sure to shut all your doors and windows. Can't be having the fumes get out into the environment and contributing to global warming climate change climate disruption. Then dry the rags out by throwing them in the oven and turning it to 400 degrees. You will know when it is time to take them out.
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TSP? How dare a primitive suggest something that was taken out of many cleaners due to its "harmful" effects on the environment.
A nice bleach and ammonia solution will work wonders on any stains on your walls or trim, primitive.
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Also, if you have any untreated woodwork, primitive, take a few rags and soak them in boiled linseed oil, and wipe down the woodwork.
Then, be sure to throw the rags away in the garbage inside your house.
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I don't think anyone has any idea how grimy, how dirty, how ingrained with filth a democrat crib can be.
The democrat work ethic extends to their housekeeping.
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I don't think anyone has any idea how grimy, how dirty, how ingrained with filth a democrat crib can be.
The democrat work ethic extends to their housekeeping.
I think GOBUCKS is on to something. If it's topcoat smooth plaster, I don't see how the hell anybody can get that too dirty to clean-- unless you're a DUmmie, that is.
Plaster walls should be the ideal wall covering for DUmmies, since the surface becomes harder and more impervious to filth the older they get.
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A nice bleach and ammonia solution will work wonders on any stains on your walls or trim, primitive.
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It sounds to me like rolling on a fresh coat of paint would be a lot easier and cheaper than what all the DUmmies are suggesting.
I'll bet the last time this Dummy painted was when they used oil based paints.
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I'll bet the last time this Dummy painted was when they used oil lead based paints.
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I'll bet the last time this Dummy painted was when they used oil lead based paints.
There ya go! :lol: DUmmie probably ate all the paint chips, too.
I'll also bet the last time this DUmmie's walls were cleaned was when they were last painted.
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I'll bet the last time this Dummy painted was when they used oil lead milk based paints.
If you use the gasoline suggestion, be sure to take the fellow DUmmies advice and take a smoke break.
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I bet the DUmmie never thought of using soap, water and elbow grease.
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I bet the DUmmie never thought of using soap, water and elbow grease.
Primitive bodies are always short on soap and long on grease.
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No magic eraser suggestion?
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GOBUCKS beat me to it & Dori is absolutely correct. (Holy Cow! That business with the mop would KILL me. I don't even use a mop to clean my floors)
To be so "green conscious, they sure do like to whip out the toxic stuff. 5% vinegar & baking soda works on pretty much everything. 9% if it's really bad.
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If you have grimy, shitty-looking walls and wash them, you get the grime, but they still look shitty.
Almost impossible to avoid a "high water mark" in the scrubbing.
The only solution to grimy, shitty-looking walls is paint.
It's a few dollars more, but not much more work, and gives vastly better results.
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DUmmy JimDandy has a 50/50 chance of being right here; and, I know this sounds counterintuitive, but, I swear it is bottom up not top down when it comes to cleaning a wall. Now wallpaper is nice :naughty: ... covers a multitude of sins. :rotf:
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Painting has gotten more expensive & magnitudes more aggravating since some nitwit came up with the "new,improved" primer + paint.
@zeitgeist, know what's even better than that? Bamboo paneling. It's cheaper than wallpaper, easier to work with, & fast. You can put it on almost anything. I redid our master bathroom in it & just before we left, finished the vanity cabinet doors in it. It turned out really good.
I used it in our dining room also, but what I really wanted/ want is grasscloth. It'll work, though, until I can summon up the guts to try wallpapering.
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what I really wanted/ want is grasscloth. It'll work, though, until I can summon up the guts to try wallpapering.
I love to wallpaper. :-)
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I love to wallpaper. :-)
I loathe wallpaper. :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
Ceiling borders are ok. But that's as far as I go.
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:-D Well, get ready (but not immediately) because I'm sure I will be crying for help when the day comes. Beginner's luck will only getcha so far. Is grasscloth really as hard as everyone says it is?
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I love to wallpaper. :-)
You are a sick, sick person. We bought our house from some old people and had a heck of a time getting that crap off the walls. they didn't even bother to paint the master bath before they put it on. It was trying to peel apart the bare drywall when we were removing it.
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You are a sick, sick person. We bought our house from some old people and had a heck of a time getting that crap off the walls. they didn't even bother to paint the master bath before they put it on. It was trying to peel apart the bare drywall when we were removing it.
Scratch up the wallpaper with coarse sandpaper then wipe down a section a few times with hot soapy water and a sponge(cloth)....then peel off the paper.
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Scratch up the wallpaper with coarse sandpaper then wipe down a section a few times with hot soapy water and a sponge(cloth)....then peel off the paper.
Now you tell them :lol:
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Scratch up the wallpaper with coarse sandpaper then wipe down a section a few times with hot soapy water and a sponge(cloth)....then peel off the paper.
You would think that would work.... I'm looking at putting up some bead board eventually. some of the wallpaper was even stapled on.
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There ya go! :lol: DUmmie probably ate all the paint chips, too.
I'll also bet the last time this DUmmie's walls were cleaned was when they were last painted.
First course in a Dummie 2 course meal.
2nd course, window grime ala tongue.
Of course.
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You are a sick, sick person. We bought our house from some old people and had a heck of a time getting that crap off the walls. they didn't even bother to paint the master bath before they put it on. It was trying to peel apart the bare drywall when we were removing it.
The vinyl stuff usually just pulls off in sheets. The paper, if its a big job, I would rent a steamer. But the small jobs, soapy water and sponge usually does the trick. Never, never paint over wallpaper. My neighbor did that, wasn't happy and then couldn't even get it off with a blow torch.
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The vinyl stuff usually just pulls off in sheets. The paper, if its a big job, I would rent a steamer. But the small jobs, soapy water and sponge usually does the trick. Never, never paint over wallpaper. My neighbor did that, wasn't happy and then couldn't even get it off with a blow torch.
I have had good luck using a steamer on painted over paper.
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The problem with the way these people did it is that they put the paste directly onto the drywall. Drywall is well, dry, and that soaked up all the moisture in the paste leaving an ugly texture all over the place. Just incompetence.
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Did you just apply a skim coat after removal of the paper?
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I love the look of wallpaper, especially in an older home. But, yes, it is a pain in the ass. And while you're deep in sleep, the cats have fun with it. :banghead:
Dori, if you love doing it, you could probably make some good scratch on the side. There are a (scant) few ladies around here who love doing it, and are good at it, and they are in high demand.
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Did you just apply a skim coat after removal of the paper?
nah, you really couldn't see the problem til the paint went on. We were busy patching up the house to sell through the winter so the bathroom is way down on the priority list. I'll probably just beadboard the mess and dress that up some.
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Now you tell them :lol:
You are getting mellow Gina, I remember the day when a 'wallpaper' comment would have had you heading this thread off to the :shortbus:
I have hung my fair share of paper. Hate matching patterns and avoid that at all costs. I also hate overlapping seams. Butting is my preferred method. About other things: A scratcher along with DEP wallpaper remover (but you can also use vinegar and water) works best. Sizing is a must for plaster walls but should be used on all walls as it helps get paper on and off easily. Always prime bare drywall. Do not use cheap paper!! People, this is important. Cheap paper is, well, cheap. It is hard to put on and hard to take off so it cost more in time than you save. If you butt seams drop chalk lines, use extra paste at the seam, and a seam roller even if you are using pre pasted paper. Ditto for corners, use extra paste. Do not paper with a person you intend to spend a significant amount of time in close proximity with in a romantic mode later (<cough> spouse ) I am also a fussy painter, prep is very important painting too.
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You are getting mellow Gina, I remember the day when a 'wallpaper' comment would have had you heading this thread off to the :shortbus:
I'm sorry. I keep getting bs'd for my :shortbus: comments :lol:
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I'm sorry. I keep getting bs'd for my :shortbus: comments :lol:
So, you respond well to negative reinforcement 'eh? :naughty:
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