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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Rebel on July 03, 2008, 05:01:34 PM
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Sharia law SHOULD be used in Britain, says UK's top judge
By Steve Doughty
Last updated at 8:07 PM on 03rd July 2008
The most senior judge in England tonight gave his blessing to the use of sharia law to resolve disputes among Muslims.
Lord Chief Justice Lord Phillips said that Islamic legal principles could be employed to deal with family and marital arguments and to regulate finance.
He declared: 'It is possible in this country for those who are entering into a contractual agreement to agree that the agreement shall be governed by a law other than English law.'
In his speech in an East London mosque Lord Phillips signalled approval of sharia principles as a means of settling disputes so long as no punishments that conflict with the established law are involved, and as long as divorces are made to comply with the civil law.
But his remarks - which give the green light from the highest judicial office to the informal sharia courts already operated by numerous mosques - provoked a storm of criticism.
Lawyers warned that family and marital disputes settled by sharia could leave women or vulnerable people at a serious disadvantage.
Tories said that equality under the law must be respected and warned that outcomes incompatible with English law should never be enforceable.
Lord Phillips spoke five months after Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams surrounded himself in controversy with a lecture in which he suggested Islamic law could have official status and that it could govern marital law, financial transactions and arbitration in disputes.
The Lord Chief Justice said today of the Archbishop's views: 'It was not very radical to advocate embracing sharia law in the context of family disputes.'
He added that there was 'widespread misunderstanding as to the nature of sharia law'.
Lord Phillips said: 'Those who in this country are in dispute as to their respective rights are free to subject that dispute to the mediation of a chosen person, or to agree that the dispute shall be resolved by a chosen arbitrator.
'There is no reason why principles of sharia law or any other religious code should not be the basis for mediation or other forms of alternative dispute resolution.'
Lord Phillips said that any sanctions must be 'drawn from the laws of England and Wales'. Severe physical punishment - he mentioned stoning, flogging or the cutting off of hands - was 'out of the question' in Britain, he said.
'So far as aspects of matrimonial law are concerned, there is a limited precedent for English law to recognise aspects of religious laws, although when it comes to divorce this can only be effected in accordance with the civil law of this country,' he said. ... (LINK) (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1031611/Sharia-law-SHOULD-used-Britain-says-UKs-judge.html)
This newest ruling by the Supreme court was needed. This shit will be coming here eventually. ::)
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There's going to be a lot of dead women in the UK.
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:ohsnap:
That is beyond ridiculous...the Kool-aid is strong in England.
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There's going to be a lot of dead women in the UK.
aint that the truth
this judge is on crack
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There's going to be a lot of dead women in the UK.
aint that the truth
this judge is on crack
Nah, he's just British.
No offense, Bij. :-)
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There's going to be a lot of dead women in the UK.
aint that the truth
this judge is on crack
Nah, he's just British.
No offense, Bij. :-)
OK, Great Britain is on crack
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I have the answer........ Great Britain can just do away with ALL English laws and let the entire country be run with Sharia law. Then, they won't offend anybody and everybody will be "happy".... :whatever:
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Absolutely fracking bizarre! The socialists in Europe (the same chickenshits we saved from annihilation in WWII), not only have a death wish, but are showing massive disregard for those that have died to protect their culture.
I say if these DUmmys are bent of killing themselves off, then be my guest! Just leave my country out of it.
No doubt that this mindset is just on the horizon for this nation and if Obama is president when the Islamic scum try the same thing, he will support them 100%.
Personally it would be funny to see Randi Rhodes or Mr. (Miss) Huffington on all fours with a collar around their necks being led by a leash.
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Absolutely fracking bizarre! The socialists in Europe (the same chickenshits we saved from annihilation in WWII), not only have a death wish, but are showing massive disregard for those that have died to protect their culture.
Kinda sad how that turned out. They used to be the most hawkish nation, aside from Germany, in Europe during WWII. Maybe they need the Queen to take over everything again. The "people", I.e., the House of Commons, must not like freedom as much as we did/do here in the states.
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This newest ruling by the Supreme court was needed. This shit will be coming here eventually. ::)
In at least one case, justices referred to international law rather than the constitution. It's closer than we think.
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Slippery Slope here -- Just like days after gay marriage in California appeared, liberal groups complained that it doesn't go far enough and allow more than two people to marry. -- Give them a taste, they are going to want a bite.
Anyway, If one wants to live in a country where Sharia is practiced, then one should relocate to a country that it is. What I find particularly strange though is between basic inequality of women and zero tolerance for homosexuality along with its religious roots , one would think the Liberals would be all over this...But no..
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Does Madonna know about this??? :-) I mean, one has to give her props for really moving out of the US when she said she would....unlike the guy who sailed the Katrina waters in a row boat, the guy who called his daughter a dirty pig, and the dozens of other hollywood failures.
I hope Hannity runs with this.. :evillaugh:
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So I posted this on another site...and I get this response from a canadian living in England.
"As a Canadian living in the UK, and having many Muslim friends, teaching Islam to children, and having travelled in a Muslim country I have a really different view on this law than I used to.
England has a lot of Muslim extremists and their definition of Islam is very different than those in Muslim countries. When I travelled in Egypt, we had a Muslim tour guide that would answer any and all questions we threw at him about Islam. He even commented about how many Muslims in England twist the law to seem the way they want it.
I don't think it's as bad as it's made out to be. Women have more power than you think based on this law BUT culturally it's downplayed and that's where the trouble comes in.
Culturally, a lot of Muslims in England want to hang on to all things Islamic just as any other culture coming in wants to hang onto those things that identify them in that group."
:mental:
I respond with...
Let's break down sharia law, why don't we....
10. Islam commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped.
9. Islam allows husbands to hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives.
8. Islam allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge—physical eye for physical eye.
7. Islam commands that a male and female thief must have a hand cut off.
6. Islam commands that highway robbers should be crucified or mutilated.
5. Islam commands that homosexuals must be executed. (Buh bye AMJ)
4. Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death.
3. Islam orders death for Muslim and possible death for non—Muslim critics of Muhammad and the Quran and even sharia itself.
2. Islam orders apostates to be killed.
1. Islam commands offensive and aggressive and unjust jihad.
These laws didn't come from today's radical muslims...These harsh and excessive laws come directly from the founder of Islam in his Quran and in the hadith.
I'm just amazed on how this judgment can actually have women who back this.....there really is no end to stupidity.
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For those of you in the UK that have any type of common sense left - RUN! Get the **** out of there before the islamoshits and the guilty liberals get all of you put in burkas.