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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Dori on April 11, 2014, 11:40:10 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024806376
FreakinDJ (14,248 posts)
Just did my taxes and I feel ashamed
The more I make the less I pay
I'm fretting getting a return of what some people would call their annual. Its just plain wrong that with my position in life where a home healthcare, retirement are not of a concern because I have all those - the people struggling to get by - whom don't even make enough to worry about those things
PAY A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THEIR EARNINGS TOWARDS TAXES then I do
Don't get me wrong - I was there once - I know the reality of what its like living check to check, working tons of over time and still having to make decisions "Rent or Food" or my children wanting new clothes for school or even something nice to open on Christmas morning
Its just not right and I'll be the first to say it
The Rich are ****ing America
Yeah right
Star Member cherokeeprogressive (17,573 posts)
1. The only problem I have with this is...
The "Rich" didn't write the tax code.
I posit that if there were politicians more interested in making things right than getting re-elected, the tax code could be rewritten so as to make things more equitable. There aren't. Anywhere.
For that reason, I'm more likely to say The Politicians have, and ARE ****ing America. **** them all.
FreakinDJ (14,248 posts)
2. Rich Republicans blame poor people for the Country's financial woes
Knowing full well they themselves pay a lower percentage in taxation
I find that pure evil
cui bono (11,144 posts)
9. Sure they do. They pay the politicians to write what they want them to write.
And in some cases like with Alec they actually do write the laws.
Bigmack (7,053 posts)
3. I feel the same...
... not ashamed, exactly, but pissed.
We could pay more taxes, but the ****ers would just piss it away on wars & weapons rather than health care & safety nets.
Bass-ackwards priorities...
Star Member hfojvt (34,128 posts)
5. the more you make, the less you pay?
I am not sure how you manage that.
What percentage do you pay?
My total income was $33,359.84 comprised of $31,987.12 in wages, $129.50 in taxable interest, $341.40 in qualified dividends, $901.82 in short term capital gains (on paper (meaning I really did not make that much, because I had losses on paper last year))
I maxed out my IRA deduction at $6,500, reducing my AGI to $26,859.84 and my total tax bill to $1,833. My tax rate is either 5.5% of my total income or 6.82% of my AGI. You are making more than that and paying less than that? How?
Of course, there was another $2,548.82 that I paid in FICA taxes and another $2,548.82 that my employer paid, instead of giving to me. Making my tax rate 20.78%.
There's also income that I don't have to count - now, because it is in my IRA account, or ever - because it is in my much smaller Roth IRA account. That's actually fairly substantial - $1,200 to $1,500. A decent chunk of change, but not something I can spend now. Still, it is nice to have it for eight years down the road when I CAN spend it. Or presumably it will be if I live that long. But how much tax free income are richer people getting from their Roth accounts.
I may try to find out.
Star Member FreakinDJ (14,248 posts)
15. I made just under 200K
State, Fed, Property taxes was 16%
You just barely don't qualify for an Earned Income Tax Credit.
Your tax burden would go up until you hit $110K and then it starts going down. Becomes very noticable around $130K
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If the DUmbshits were to try selling all that bullshit instead of smoking it, the scam SSI and Disability cases would disappear overnight.
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Well, if the primitive feels so guilty about paying so little in taxes, what's stopping him from writing a check to the U.S. Treasury?
As far as I know, the federal government accepts donations.
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DUmmies are so stupid, I would really love to know his real situation. Like what his income is and where it came from. If its investments that have already been taxed? I can guarantee we aren't hearing the "whole" story.
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Well, if the primitive feels so guilty about paying so little in taxes, what's stopping him from writing a check to the U.S. Treasury?
As far as I know, the federal government accepts donations.
Gifts to the United States Government
How do I make a contribution to the U.S. government?
Citizens who wish to make a general donation to the U.S. government may send contributions to a specific account called "Gifts to the United States." This account was established in 1843 to accept gifts, such as bequests, from individuals wishing to express their patriotism to the United States. Money deposited into this account is for general use by the federal government and can be available for budget needs. These contributions are considered an unconditional gift to the government. Financial gifts can be made by check or money order payable to the United States Treasury and mailed to the address below.
Gifts to the United States
U.S. Department of the Treasury
Credit Accounting Branch
3700 East-West Highway, Room 622D
Hyattsville, MD 20782
Any tax-related questions regarding these contributions should be directed to the Internal Revenue ServiceExit the FMS Web site at (800) 829-1040.
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Ok, somebody please tell me how to do that. Pay 16% in taxes, total, for federal and property. I don't have a state tax.
Please tell me. We just had our taxes done and according to Mr. Rich DUmmie he paid $32,000 in taxes for state, federal, AND property? Making $200k/year?
I made somewhere over half that (AGI) and paid $30,000!
Either DUmmie is doing something illegal or I need a new CPA, OR DUmmie has some really good write offs that I need to learn about.
KC
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I don't want to say "bouncy", but rather, FULL OF SHIT.
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He's either lying or he's living off of investments. Nice situation if you can get it. Maybe he inherited it. Come clean, DUmmie Freak.
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Ok, somebody please tell me how to do that. Pay 16% in taxes, total, for federal and property. I don't have a state tax.
Please tell me. We just had our taxes done and according to Mr. Rich DUmmie he paid $32,000 in taxes for state, federal, AND property? Making $200k/year?
I made somewhere over half that (AGI) and paid $30,000!
Either DUmmie is doing something illegal or I need a new CPA, OR DUmmie has some really good write offs that I need to learn about.
KC
Get a new tax accountant. That is WAY too much on 100K. It should be closer to $15K-$20K. With NO deductions and one exemption, Federal tax on 100K AGI is about $13K. Assuming California (one of the worst) is about $3K (again with no deductions). Uless you have $10K in Property taxes...?
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FreakinDJ (14,248 posts)
Just did my taxes and I feel ashamed
The more I make the less I pay
I'm fretting getting a return of what some people would call their annual. Its just plain wrong that with my position in life where a home healthcare, retirement are not of a concern because I have all those - the people struggling to get by - whom don't even make enough to worry about those things
PAY A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THEIR EARNINGS TOWARDS TAXES then I do
Don't get me wrong - I was there once - I know the reality of what its like living check to check, working tons of over time and still having to make decisions "Rent or Food" or my children wanting new clothes for school or even something nice to open on Christmas morning
Its just not right and I'll be the first to say it
The Rich are ****ing America
Ladies and gentlemen, this is how you troll! :lmao:
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Hey FreakinDJ. Take your guilty money and go find a family to shower it on. Or are you just wanting to brag?
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I don't want to say "bouncy", but rather, FULL OF SHIT.
Great idea for my new DU bouncy mascot, whom I call, fittingly, "Shitty!"
(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj434/GOPCongress/crap_bouncy_zpscecc0beb.png)
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Great idea for my new DU bouncy mascot, whom I call, fittingly, "Shitty!"
(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj434/GOPCongress/crap_bouncy_zpscecc0beb.png)
I thought this was the same thing? :bouncingidiot:
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If 10% was good enough for Jesus, then it's good enough for Uncle Sam.....and we would all be paying the same percentage rate.....feel better DUmmie?
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Get a new tax accountant. That is WAY too much on 100K. It should be closer to $15K-$20K. With NO deductions and one exemption, Federal tax on 100K AGI is about $13K. Assuming California (one of the worst) is about $3K (again with no deductions). Uless you have $10K in Property taxes...?
That $30k was just my federal taxes.
AGI was $115k and I'm self employed.
KC
ETA; and I'm STILL pissed about paying those taxes.
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Get a new tax accountant. That is WAY too much on 100K. It should be closer to $15K-$20K. With NO deductions and one exemption, Federal tax on 100K AGI is about $13K. Assuming California (one of the worst) is about $3K (again with no deductions). Uless you have $10K in Property taxes...?
BTW, my property taxes are way higher but most of those are for rentals I own so ... I don't pay the taxes, I just collect them for the state.
KC
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I thought this was the same thing? :bouncingidiot:
Yes. A bouncing turd is still a bouncing turd.
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What a bunch of lying bullshit. The past two years I had to cash out a retirement fund because later would have been even worse on the taxes, once you go over 100K and it it counts as ordinary income, you have to pay out the ass. Even if you do get payouts that count as LT capital gains, you still get raped, just not quite as painfully, and on top of that you start losing all the exemptions and other credits and deductions that married couples under make less than 160,000 get.
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FreakinDJ (14,248 posts)
Just did my taxes and I feel ashamed
The more I make the less I pay
I'm fretting getting a return of what some people would call their annual. Its just plain wrong that with my position in life where a home healthcare, retirement are not of a concern because I have all those - the people struggling to get by - whom don't even make enough to worry about those things
PAY A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THEIR EARNINGS TOWARDS TAXES then I do
Don't get me wrong - I was there once - I know the reality of what its like living check to check, working tons of over time and still having to make decisions "Rent or Food" or my children wanting new clothes for school or even something nice to open on Christmas morning
Its just not right and I'll be the first to say it
The Rich are ****ing America
Dummie is lording it over the rest of the dump. I MAKE MONEY!!!!! I'M RICH!!!! Little does the dummie know that he will be getting beg-a-thons from here on out.
Either that or the dummie is lying. I'm betting the dummie is lying.
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Great idea for my new DU bouncy mascot, whom I call, fittingly, "Shitty!"
Most of their bouncies are. :cheersmate:
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That $30k was just my federal taxes.
AGI was $115k and I'm self employed.
KC
ETA; and I'm STILL pissed about paying those taxes.
Looks like being a businessperson is great punishment.
Thanks, congress (a-holes) and sorry to hear it, KC.
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Great idea for my new DU bouncy mascot, whom I call, fittingly, "Shitty!"
(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj434/GOPCongress/crap_bouncy_zpscecc0beb.png)
Put me down as a no. That looks too much like a Dairy Queen Chocolate Dip. And how about calling it the Steaming Heap Award?
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Put me down as a no. That looks too much like a Dairy Queen Chocolate Dip. And how about calling it the Steaming Heap Award?
No curl, sir.
Must...have...curl. :tongue:
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So I think I found the root of the DUmmies bouncy.
President Obama and Vice President Biden’s 2013 Tax Returns
Today, the President released his 2013 federal income tax returns. He and the First Lady filed their income tax returns jointly and reported adjusted gross income of $481,098. The Obamas paid $98,169 in total tax.
The President and First Lady also reported donating $59,251 – or about 12.3 percent of their adjusted gross income – to 32 different charities. The largest reported gift to charity was $8,751 to the Fisher House Foundation. The President’s effective federal income tax rate is 20.4 percent. The President pushed for and signed into law legislation that makes the system more fair and helps the middle class by extending tax cuts to middle class and working families and asks the wealthiest Americans to pay their fair share. In 2013, as a result of his policies, the President was subject to limitations in tax preferences, as well as additional Medicare and investment income taxes, for high income earners. The President and First Lady also released their Illinois income tax return and reported paying $23,328 in state income tax.
The Vice President and Dr. Jill Biden also released their 2013 federal income tax returns, as well as state income tax returns for both Delaware and Virginia. The Bidens filed joint federal and combined Delaware income tax returns. Dr. Biden filed a separate non-resident Virginia tax return. Together, they reported adjusted gross income of $407,009. The Bidens paid $96,378 in total federal tax for 2013, amounting to an effective tax rate of 23.7 percent. They also paid $14,644 in Delaware income tax and Dr. Biden paid $3,470 in Virginia income tax. The Bidens contributed $20,523 to charity in 2013, including contributing the royalties received from Dr. Biden’s children’s book, net of taxes, to the USO.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/04/11/president-obama-and-vice-president-biden-s-2013-tax-returns
This was released this afternoon. Well I did just notice the DUmmie posted that last night. But anyway I find the info above interesting. Would love to know how they are getting away with 20.4% and are making above the highest bracket.
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The Dummie who claimed to make $200,000.00 is probably feeling the tax bite enough to want to stop being a lib.
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Would love to know how they are getting away with 20.4% and are making above the highest bracket.
Figures are adjusted gross income, not taxable income.
No one pays the highest percentage on their entire taxable income - tax brackets are marginal.
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Put me down as a no. That looks too much like a Dairy Queen Chocolate Dip. And how about calling it the Steaming Heap Award?
I'll take that no and double it. Ol' basketball bouncy will never be replaced, only emulated from time to time.
(http://uahbluecrew.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/happy_bouncing_basketball_photosculpture-p153694050891150108qdjh_400.jpg)
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You should feel ashamed, DUmmy.
There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me—because they want to give something back. They know they didn't—look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own... If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.
The lying POS used car salesman, July 13, 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_didn't_build_that
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A lot of people think the hook line for this song is "Shame Shame Shame". For our purposes it fits...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmYWGjFFs4k[/youtube]
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The DUmmie, just like Obama, says that if you are successful someone along the way gave you some help.....not true.
I know several people in my small town that that started at absolute bottom and are now worth millions. Their parents were deadbeats. They didn't finish school because their parents wouldn't or couldn't afford to send them to free government schools. There is one major difference in those uneducated people and the supposedly smart well educated DUmmies. You all know what that difference is but no amount of explaining will ever educate the DUmmies as to what that difference is. DUmmies will simply mark it up to greed and exploitation of the workers.
Even if some of it is attributable to greed and exploitation, there is one key ingredient missing that the DUmmies will never admit too and will never have.