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Title: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: landofconfusion80 on April 03, 2014, 08:13:27 AM
Eat the rich!!! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024773552)
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Nye Bevan (14,963 posts)


Wow. Maduro has absolutely wrecked Venezuela's economy.


Battling food shortages, the government is rolling out a new ID system that is either a grocery loyalty card with extra muscle or the most dramatic step yet toward rationing in Venezuela, depending on who is describing it.
 
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"The rich people have things all hoarded away, and they pull the strings," said Juan Rodriguez, who waited two hours to enter the government-run Abastos Bicentenario supermarket near downtown Caracas on Monday, and then waited another three hours to check out. Rigid currency controls and a shortage of U.S. dollars make it increasingly difficult for Venezuelans to find imported basic products like milk, flour, toilet paper and cooking oil. Price controls don't help either, with producers complaining that some goods are priced too low to make a profit and justify production.
 
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Checkout workers at Abastos Bicentenario were taking down customers' cellphone numbers Monday, to ensure they couldn't return for eight days. Shoppers said employees also banned purchases by minors, to stop parents from using their children to engage in hoarding, which the government calls "nervous buying."
 
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Expressionless men with rifles patrolled the warehouse-size supermarket Monday as shoppers hurried by, focusing on grabbing meat and pantry items before they were gone. Long shelves that should have been heaped with rice and coffee instead displayed six brands of ketchup. There was plenty of frozen beef selling for 22.64 bolivars a kilogram - $3.59 at the official exchange rate, or 32 cents at the black market rate increasingly used in pricing goods.
 
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_VENEZUELA_RATIONING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-04-01-00-32-05
 


What a mess.

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malaise (116,996 posts)

6. This mess was created by the Chamber of Commerce and their allies







It's always trade over people for these folks and they are well known for linking up with elites at home and abroad to sabotaging socialist governments in our hemisphere (well financed by outsiders including US Aid and NGOs).
 
I lived it - I know the pattern.

Curse those capitalist organizations! If it weren't for those meddling kids...

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The Magistrate (82,392 posts)

10. Those 'Economic Laws' Do Not Enforce Themselves, Ma'am


Anyone who does not recognize the deliberate sabotage of Venezuela's economy being carried out by capital interests is either just not paying attention or deliberately turning a blind eye because they side with the wreckers.
Translation: Economic ruin wherever socialism is tried should never be blamed on socialism.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: hillneck on April 03, 2014, 08:20:27 AM
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malaise (116,996 posts)

6. This mess was created by the Chamber of Commerce


Who knew the Chamber of Commerce was the new mafia?   
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: thundley4 on April 03, 2014, 08:21:53 AM
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The Magistrate (82,392 posts)

10. Those 'Economic Laws' Do Not Enforce Themselves, Ma'am


Anyone who does not recognize the deliberate sabotage of Venezuela's economy being carried out by capital interests is either just not paying attention or deliberately turning a blind eye because they side with the wreckers.

There is only one economic law, that of supply and demand.  Everything else is government interference. Therein lies the cause of most of these people's problems.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Carl on April 03, 2014, 08:29:13 AM
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The Magistrate (82,392 posts)

10. Those 'Economic Laws' Do Not Enforce Themselves, Ma'am


Anyone who does not recognize the deliberate sabotage of Venezuela's economy being carried out by capital interests is either just not paying attention or deliberately turning a blind eye because they side with the wreckers.

Do us all a favor sir.

Move there and die slowly in pain.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Rebel on April 03, 2014, 08:34:23 AM
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The Magistrate (82,395 posts)

13. That May Well Be, Ma'am

Col. Chavez was an exceptional and charismatic man, and very adroit.

That's who's on the other side of the aisle, people. This is your political opponent in the states. No longer do we have 2 major parties, all wanting what's best for the nation, just different ways of getting there. Today, you have one that wants to preserve it, and another that want to destroy it. And you honestly think we can live among these people in freedom and don't think that revolution is imminent?
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 03, 2014, 08:40:45 AM
ASS BACKWARDS DUMMIES.....they bitch about how little they get paid to do nothing but then expect others to do a lot for nothing.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Skul on April 03, 2014, 08:48:40 AM
Where have we seen this pattern before?
It's not our fault.
Blame shifted to demonize something unrelated.
Declare victory.

I found this next comment to be enlightening.
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Response to Nye Bevan (Original post)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:41 AM

Star Member hrmjustin (32,550 posts) <---gnads love muffin

15. I hope the socialists get rid of Maduro.
Socialists tend to eat their own. Does Stalin know about this?
Justin wants a "coop". :lmao:
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 03, 2014, 08:51:12 AM
Where have we seen this pattern before?
It's not our fault.
Blame shifted to demonize something unrelated.
Declare victory.

I found this next comment to be enlightening.Socialists tend to eat their own. Does Stalin know about this?
Justin wants a "coop". :lmao:
Well, dear leader has a mansion.....oh....you mean.....never mind. Sure he does as long as someone else does the "cooping".
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Carl on April 03, 2014, 09:04:46 AM
That's who's on the other side of the aisle, people. This is your political opponent in the states. No longer do we have 2 major parties, all wanting what's best for the nation, just different ways of getting there. Today, you have one that wants to preserve it, and another that want to destroy it. And you honestly think we can live among these people in freedom and don't think that revolution is imminent?

This is why I have a locker full of firearms.
Mother****ing traitors.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: landofconfusion80 on April 03, 2014, 09:20:47 AM
History has a funny way of repeating itself:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWTGsUyv8IE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on April 03, 2014, 10:51:44 AM
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The Magistrate (82,392 posts)

10. Those 'Economic Laws' Do Not Enforce Themselves, Ma'am

Umm, yes they do, you ignorant blowhard.

eta -

An interesting turn of phrase from the rest of that post by the Masturbator:

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Anyone who does not recognize the deliberate sabotage of Venezuela's economy being carried out by capital interests is either just not paying attention or deliberately turning a blind eye because they side with the wreckers.

Anyone familiar with 'Gulag Archipelago?'  The name 'Wreckers' was used by Stalin to murder and/or imprison (Not that there was much difference) literally millions of his people, as scapegoats for his horribly-failed economic policies.  The victims were almost totally composed of simple, ordinary people just trying to survive in chaotic conditions, and a large part of them even completely patriotic Russians and loyal Communists.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Karin on April 03, 2014, 10:56:49 AM
God I hate him. 
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Dori on April 03, 2014, 11:31:15 AM
I thought Chairman Chavez nationalized the farms, oil and other forms of production.

They should be living in socialist utopia by now....or are they?  ::)

Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: jukin on April 03, 2014, 11:38:24 AM
But this time Obama can make it work.

From the Pilgrims on down, socialism just causes misery and mass death.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Wineslob on April 03, 2014, 12:11:03 PM
"Pretzel Logic", DUmmies, U haz it.

 :thatsright:
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: fatboy on April 03, 2014, 12:29:57 PM
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malaise (116,996 posts)

6. This mess was created by the Chamber of Commerce and their allies

Great! That explains the shortages in the US of ammo and smokeless powder for handloanding ammo. It's the Chamber of Commerce trying to drive up consumer prices! Why didn't I see this?

Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Karin on April 03, 2014, 12:55:00 PM
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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:21 AM

Star Member brooklynite (15,631 posts)

7. This mess was created by setting up a tinpot authoritarian banana republic

Controlling the media; suppressing dissent. I lived that - I know the pattern.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:18 AM

Star Member roody (8,127 posts)

12. Your rightwing jargon flows so easily!
 
No thought necessary.

I see.  A free press, and the right to dissent.  Those are freeper troll, teabagger values.  We can't have that! 

****ing miserable filthy communists.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: landofconfusion80 on April 03, 2014, 12:57:47 PM

I see.  A free press, and the right to dissent.  Those are freeper troll, teabagger values.  We can't have that! 

****ing miserable filthy communists.

... and they still will deny what they really are. 

The island is the 21st century equivalent of poorly printed commie flyers posted on a light pole.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: GOBUCKS on April 03, 2014, 01:14:44 PM
I miss getting poor stupid Beth Ferrari's input on every thread supporting Latin American commie dictators.

I don't think it's a coincidence that shortly after Beth blew up and quit the DUmp, Hugo Chavez got sick and died.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: DefiantSix on April 03, 2014, 01:18:06 PM
I miss getting poor stupid Beth Ferrari's input on every thread supporting Latin American commie dictators.

I don't think it's a coincidence that shortly after Beth blew up and quit the DUmp, Hugo Chavez got sick and died.

Who knew the withdrawals from having DUmbshits fellate you could be fatal?

Perhaps we have something to look forward to when Glorious Leader's skinny ass is pried off the HMS Resolution Desk.  :-)
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: GOBUCKS on April 03, 2014, 01:43:51 PM
Perhaps we have something to look forward to when Glorious Leader's skinny ass is pried off the HMS Resolution Desk.

What I hate most is when the bastard leans back and puts his shoes up on that desk.

His bunch like to put out photos of that to emphasize his contempt for American tradition.

Dozens of dead presidents roll over in their graves.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Duke Nukum on April 03, 2014, 02:53:04 PM
Weren't they having shortages even when Potato Head was still alive?
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: DefiantSix on April 03, 2014, 02:55:08 PM
Weren't they having shortages even when Potato Head was still alive?

Yes, but they were called "solidarity initiatives" back then.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Dori on April 03, 2014, 03:10:38 PM
Weren't they having shortages even when Potato Head was still alive?
 

The government confiscated most of the farmland and they don't know what they are doing. 

There are only 30 million people in Venezuela.  They shouldn't have any trouble raising enough food to feed them. 

Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 03, 2014, 03:21:25 PM
 

The government confiscated most of the farmland and they don't know what they are doing. 

There are only 30 million people in Venezuela.  They shouldn't have any trouble raising enough food to feed them. 

That would be true if it wasn't being run by socialist idiots.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: obumazombie on April 03, 2014, 07:59:06 PM
Even though socialism has failed miserably every time it has been tried, that means nothing.
If the right guy is in charge, and the right set of people help, it can work.
At least according to a lib.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: JohnnyReb on April 03, 2014, 08:22:30 PM
Even though socialism has failed miserably every time it has been tried, that means nothing.
If the right guy is in charge, and the right set of people help, it can work.
At least according to a lib.
Socialism only works if you kill enough people......and that figure must be somewhere over a 100 million plus because it ain't working yet.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on April 03, 2014, 08:50:43 PM
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malaise (116,996 posts)

6. This mess was created by the Chamber of Commerce and their allies

Seriously?

The organization consisting of small businesses, which pursues their interests, and has nothing to do with the dreaded megacorporations?

The organization that's been on the outs with Obama and his buds at State for virtually all of the last six years, and which they have shit upon and frozen out of any policy decisions again and again for that whole time?

Get a grip on reality, dipshit.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Ptarmigan on April 03, 2014, 08:51:58 PM
Socialism causes problems. Nuff said.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: obumazombie on April 03, 2014, 09:11:54 PM
Socialism causes problems. Nuff said.
Bunnies are above suspicion.
Title: Re: Venezuela- Of course it's not socialism causing it.
Post by: Wineslob on April 04, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
... and they still will deny what they really are. 

The island is the 21st century equivalent of poorly printed commie flyers posted on a light pole.


I see you've been to Santa Cruz. (Ca.)