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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: I_B_Perky on March 29, 2014, 10:00:39 PM
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OK dunno if this is satire or not. You decide.
The OP:
Scuba (36,823 posts)
"You're ******* right we want to take from the rich ..."
Big pic of some loser with the caption:
"You're ******* right we want to take from the rich. We wanna take our futures back. We wanna take back the money they stole from us <blah, blah>
The link:
Eat the rich!!!! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024746662)
On to the comments...
rdharma (6,057 posts)
1. 67 individuals own 50% of the world's wealth! nt
The bastards!!!!
calimary (33,673 posts)
20. And three rich old farts want to buy the entire Congress and every available Statehouse.
****ERS! Just think - if we could just tax those three multi-billionaires at 90%, we could fix a LOT of the social inequities in this country, provide enough food for probably almost every family in America, and these buggers would STILL have more money left over than they need.
Wonder what would happen if they came to pass? Something tells me that many people would lose their jobs.
Then we have this:
mtasselin (471 posts)
35. ACCE
American Cities Counties Exchange, this is the sister of ALEC, by looking at the name you can tell what they plan on doing. If they are successful they control the whole country, we will officially become a third world country.
Obeeekayybeee...
The dummie gets a bite:
calimary (33,673 posts)
58. See, THIS is what we have to watch for. Shadowy organizations like this!
I was afraid of that.
All the noise about ALEC. Well, that shoved a big spotlight on them and suddenly they were exposed and GAK! That organization started taking on water. So, figure it this way: when you spot the big ant hill in the garden, or you figure out where the termites started getting a foothold in your rafters, whaddya do? You call the bug exterminators or you spray or otherwise attack the source of the infestation. Okay fine. Job done, and the problem's solved, correct?
****ING ASS NOOOOOO!!!!!! NO! NO! NO!!! Think of what happens next? Have you REALLY gotten rid of the ants? Have you REALLY eradicated all the termites? Not on your freakin' LIFE! If you don't want another infestation, you have to keep after them. You have to stay vigilant. You have to be always on watch, always on alert, always doing whatever you can, preventively, to KEEP them away. You can't just sit back and think - "ahhh… cool! Problem solved! All gone! Let's relax and go back to sleep!"
Well, here, too. I was afraid that the exposure of ALEC to the blinding sunlight would only be a temporary victory. When one of their strategies doesn't work, these vermin just figure out a different way, a new plan of attack, set up a new organization or some new venture that will basically continue the same job on the same objectives, just - not called the same thing. Maybe not headquartered in the same building. But they're STILL there, and they're STILL doing their dirty work, and they're STILL hellbent on the same objectives, and they're STILL operating at full speed and metastasizing like a runaway cancer.
And I'd bet you cash money that that this is EXACTLY what's happened now that ALEC has been exposed and set back. That didn't stop 'em for a nanosecond. I bet they probably planned for precisely this "small" reversal. And to them it is. It hasn't stopped 'em at all. I'd bet they already had this one up and running, in anticipation of what we might do.
I'd also bet you cash money that most of our Dems assumed that once ALEC was exposed, the job was done, work is finished, we got 'em, and that's that. Problem solved! No more ALEC! Stand down red alert! Everybody can relax now. Let's all go back to sleep!
You ALWAYS have to think several steps ahead with these people. BELIEVE ME, they've got layers of staff people doing exactly that, at all times. They're always planning and adjusting and like a nest of termites, looking for the next weak spot where they can get in and resume their dirty work, and eat your house out from under you. Shit - do we have ANYBODY doing that? ANYBODY thinking that way? Hey Debbie, has this occurred to you AT ALL, Miss Asleep-at-the-Switch???? Probably not.
Obeeekaaaybe.
erronis (143 posts)
68. The best way for the vermin to survive is to infect another host. My biggest fear and strongest belief is that they are now walking the liberal/democratic walk, talking that talk, building up their creds --- but they are sleepers that will try to undermine the democratic process.
Hey, for a few 10's of thousands of dollars, wouldn't you start to let your hair grow long, spout libral props, try to gain seats in local/state governments/boards, become the darling of the left wing --- and then show your true colors?
My new mole looking for cred.
calimary (33,673 posts)
86. See my post #83. The only solution to this is Mad-Eye Moody's warning to Harry Potter.
Mad-Eye Moody repeatedly said - "CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!!!!!" They were dealing with the Dark Lord and it was, thankfully, fiction. WE, on the other hand, are dealing with the koch brothers and shel adelson and piles of money higher than the Himalayas. We HAVE TO anticipate. We HAVE TO outthink them. We HAVE TO outwit them. And we can't EVER relax and kick back and assume the problem is now solved and over and done with. Like Lady Macbeth's damned spot, they do NOT go away and disappear, no matter how hard you scrub.
And frankly, wish I didn't have to say or believe this, but I think the Dems need to beef up not only their opposition research but bring on a few devious thinkers. You have to think like the Dark-Siders. Like Section 31 in Star Trek. Bad. Evil. Dark Side definitely. But we HAVE TO know and understand and head off what the bad guys are doing. Try to anticipate their next move. Try to outthink them when we have them on the ropes. Anybody remember how horrible Blackwater was? The very idea was icky. Well, it eventually got stopped - in the "yeah, SUUUUURE" file. Blackwater doesn't exist anymore. They frickin' renamed it. Now it's this shadowy faceless entity called Xe. Or maybe THAT has even changed by now. That was awhile ago. And I haven't kept up closely enough. But that fiend eric prince (who comes out of the ultra-conservative dick devol Amway machine in the upper Midwest - I think he married Mr. Amway's daughter) simply renamed it and the business carried on with impunity. And everybody who only bothered to look around at surface-level figured - "aha! Over! They're gone! Ding dong the witch is dead! We won! We BEAT those bastards! Everybody can relax and go back to sleep now!"
Hey, I'm as Machiavellian as the next guy.
Can someone that speaks Dumbass please translate for me?
Lizzie Poppet (3,861 posts)
2. K and ****ing R!
What the rightist assbags that claim these sentiments derive from jealousy or suchlike need to realize is that very few of us would begrudge any of them a reasonable amount of wealth, particularly when it was honestly earned through hard work, innovation, and perseverance. When it's an obscene amount of wealth hoarding that clearly harms society, when it was "earned" via scams, theft, and cynical manipulation of the democratic system? Nope...**** you very much. You are few, we are many...and if you don't accept meaningful change in a badly broken system, we'll (eventually) wake up and shove it down your ******* throats. Your call.
Translation: We decide what a reasonable amount of wealth is. And they call us facists, nazis, etc.
dotymed (5,209 posts)
45. "They" have huge underground cities
(really huge) and most of them know that soon "our planet" will become uninhabitable. I think that is why they keep destroying for greed. So they might re-populate with their sociopathic mindset.
We must take "our" money back and use it for the people.
When wealthy tax rates were Progressive was the greatest time of life for the masses. (not civil rights though)
This (rightfully) re-appropriated wealth can build a non oil, nuke or coal dependent power grid and allow people to earn a living wage while healing our planet.
It is hopefully not too late.
The longer that we wait, the greater the possibility of the end of humanity so some mentally ill cretins can live like Pharoahs and die with more wealth than we can imagine.
Obeeeekaaaybe. Only thing is missing is chicken wire and cinder blocks.
IrishAyes (4,948 posts)
82. Woo-hoo! Preach it, sister.
I guess 9/11 is passe now.
BlueStreak (7,205 posts)
3. The best approach is to say "hell yes"
rather than to hang one's head in shame and meekly beg for some scraps from the rich.
They have stolen this money from the middle class and we want it back. The American way of life cannot coexist with this concentration of wealth.
Really? I'm middle class and I do not see any rich person stealing any money from me. It is the government and they give 300 billion to people like you. That is theft, dummie.
rhett o rick (34,813 posts)
4. Not only did they steal our wealth then put us in debt. We need 2 trillion dollars
to fix our infrastructure. We need a couple of trillion to pay for the Iraq War. And we have taken no steps to prevent another bank bailout the greatest heist in history. They did it once, they will do it again.
Can't fix stupid.
ZX86 (261 posts)
5. Personal wealth should be capped at 100 million dollars.
Anything beyond that should be taxed at 100%.
A lot of people recoil in horror when I tell them wealth should be capped. That taking money from individuals is immoral. Well I'm sorry. If you can't have complete and fulfilled life with a 100 million dollars there is something wrong with you and additional money won't help. I really don't have any inclination to worry about whines and complaints of somebody with a 100 million dollars. They can cry themselves to sleep every night in a big pile on money for all I care.
Now we got a dollar sign on it. I got a couple questions for ya, dummie. How much is Jay Rockefeller worth? How much is George Soros worth?
SammyWinstonJack (35,919 posts)
12. 100 million is obscene!
Ooops!
aggiesal (1,876 posts)
14. But you wouldn't be able to own ...
a professional sports team with only $100 !million.
Do you need the sarcasm imoticon?
OK, here it is.
Successful moling? You decide.
toddwv (2,130 posts)
24. Just bring back the estate tax.
It was a great equalizer.
Tax anything over $10,000,000 at something near 100%.
If they haven't set their kids and family up with big fat trusts, great education, and unparalleled opportunities by the time they kick the bucket... well, that's their problem.
So what is the point of estate taxes, dummie, if you set up trusts? For that matter, it would hurt you dummies far more than it would hurt the rich for the simple reason that a good portion of ya all expect to inherit your parents wealth.
LiberalFighter (31,584 posts)
39. Don't need to cap wealth.
Best method is to impose appropriate taxes that increases in a progressive manner. The estate tax should be brought back as the beneficiaries of the income didn't do a damn thing to earn it. It should be added to the income and taxed all as income. Investment income should also be taxed higher. Possibly the same as income with a 2 to 5% discount.
We don't have a progressive tax system now? Who knew!!!!
Half-Century Man (1,985 posts)
60. Not enough
Wealth should be based on needs not desires.
Wealth cap at 150 million dollars per person
Forced retirement at 100 million, complete removal from flow and control of production.
Per year accumulation of wealth capped a 5 million dollar, All forms of gain added together and capped at a total of 5 million. (Only exception would be an inheritance)
Inheritance capped at 7.5 million per person, All other wealth from an estate forfeited. (Estate can be parceled out in 7.5 million chunks according to the deceased written wishes)
At wealth level of 3 million dollars, any and all forms of retirement and/or severance packages are illegal.
Stock options should be illegal, if someone wants stock, buy it at market value.
No cap for social security taxation.
Sentencing guidelines based on monies involved in a crime, 1 year for every 100 thousand dollars. Crimes involving millions of dollars suddenly become highly dangerous to execute.
For a Start.
Can anyone explain why any society should allow the financial, the social, the industrial, and political bottleneck that is/are billionaires to exist?
Where have I heard that before? I just can't seem to remember. Oh yeah! Now I do. Communism. We see how well that worked out.
pansypoo53219 (9,874 posts)
6. i have been telling my moderate publica epal the economy is RIGGED. wall street is RIGGED.
I seem to make money on wall street. Of course I save money and put it into the market over the long term.
toddwv (2,130 posts)
26. And so is politics.
Can a legislative body that is more than 50% millionaires truly represent the real People of the US?
Troll.
reformist2 (6,235 posts)
10. You're talking about wealth redistribution, you know.... sounds good to me too!
I guess you don't have a job.
gulliver (9,371 posts)
15. You don't have to put the rich down to tax them.
That's just completely stupid on our part, and it is a widespread notion. It actually makes it harder to tax the rich if you make it about them being bad people or not deserving what they have. The Republican side turns the poor into bad people. That also makes it harder to tax, although that is deliberate.
Taxing isn't about who deserves things. It's about getting the most out of everyone and getting the money needed to do it wherever that money happens to be available.
Tax the rich big time and then thank them. Throw them a party.
Effective moling? You decide. I can neither confirm nor deny that is my mole.
Then we have this:
MillennialDem (473 posts)
33. How about a revolution like in 1917 Russia? :)
Yep. Let us do this. Dummies would be in a work camp in Alaska.
socialist_n_TN (9,624 posts)
38. That would warm the cockles (what the hell are "cockles" anyway?)......
of this old Trotskyist's heart.
Except this time we get it right and not allow a parasitic bureaucracy to take over the revolution. Even Classic Reds have to learn from our mistakes.
Welcome to DU. Check us out in the Socialist Progressives group.
Thanks for stating that, communist.
That is it for now. Sure to get bigger.
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So much stupid, so little time...
Not you Perky, good find. :cheersmate:
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MillennialDem (473 posts)
33. How about a revolution like in 1917 Russia? Smiley
From the same wanking mongoloids who insist that our weapons are useless against the high-tech government.
socialist_n_TN (9,624 posts)
38. That would warm the cockles (what the hell are "cockles" anyway?)......
of this old Trotskyist's heart.
Except this time we get it right and not allow a parasitic bureaucracy to take over the revolution. Even Classic Reds have to learn from our mistakes.
Welcome to DU. Check us out in the Socialist Progressives group.
Tee Hee. Yeah, that should never happen... :whistling:
...and it won't...
.....next time.....
...or, next time after that......
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So much stupid, so little time...
Not you Perky, good find. :cheersmate:
Thanks Ralph! :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
I have noticed lately that some of the best threads at the dump are late on Saturday nite when the dummies are all drugged/drunked up and they let their true colors shine thru. Of course that is when my moles are most active. But keep that quiet now, Ralph. Don't want the dummies to notice.
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dotymed (5,209 posts)
45. "They" have huge underground cities (really huge) and most of them know that soon "our planet" will become uninhabitable. I think that is why they keep destroying for greed. So they might re-populate with their sociopathic mindset.
We must take "our" money back and use it for the people.
When wealthy tax rates were Progressive was the greatest time of life for the masses. (not civil rights though) This (rightfully) re-appropriated wealth can build a non oil, nuke or coal dependent power grid and allow people to earn a living wage while healing our planet. It is hopefully not too late.
Psssst... here's what various Governments spend per person. See a problem?
Yes, I know. Stupid question.
New Zealand $12,252
Australia $13,819
Spain $14,771
Canada $16,655
Italy $16,811
Germany $17,263
United Kingdom $18,155
France $18,866
United States $19,266
The longer that we wait, the greater the possibility of the end of humanity so some mentally ill cretins can live like Pharoahs and die with more wealth than we can imagine.
Yeah...tax those evil corporations more. Like:
Every time the Democrats call for "the richest one per cent" to pay their "fair share", Republicans ought to point out that we have a more progressive - ie, redistributive - tax system than Canada, Scandinavia, Belgium, the Netherlands... In other words, America's rich already pay more than Sweden's rich or Norway's rich. If it's fair enough for the Continentals, why isn't it fair for Americans?
What about corporate tax? Federal corporate tax in the US: 35 per cent; in Canada: 11-15 per cent. Total (national, local, the lot) corporate tax burden: Ireland 12.5 per cent, Sweden 22 per cent, Denmark 24 per cent, Netherlands 25 per cent, Germany 29 per cent, Italy 31 per cent, Belgium 33 per cent, United States 40 per cent.
Whuuups.....
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608045903232174173&pid=1.7)
Yeah.....whut he sed.
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Your monies, they are ours.
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Big pic of some loser with the caption:
"You're ******* right we want to take from the rich. We wanna take our futures back. We wanna take back the money they stole from us."
What money, primitives?
The only person stealing from me is the government.
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Lizzie Poppet (3,861 posts)
2. K and ****ing R!
What the rightist assbags that claim these sentiments derive from jealousy or suchlike need to realize is that very few of us would begrudge any of them a reasonable amount of wealth, particularly when it was honestly earned through hard work, innovation, and perseverance. When it's an obscene amount of wealth hoarding that clearly harms society, when it was "earned" via scams, theft, and cynical manipulation of the democratic system? Nope...**** you very much. You are few, we are many...and if you don't accept meaningful change in a badly broken system, we'll (eventually) wake up and shove it down your ******* throats. Your call.
You mean like wrecking an economy via currency speculation?
Now who would have done that?
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Since they all think they should have the right and power to declare how much money a person wealthier then them has I think it is only fair if at the DUmp the person with the least should have the same.
Maybe Stewie can keep his house at that point since all the other DUmbasses are too cheap to voluntarily help out someone poorer then they are.
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The estate tax should be brought back as the beneficiaries of the income didn't do a damn thing to earn it.
Let's examine that comment in a bit more detail, shall we, boys and girls?
First off, the estate tax already exists. It's just not "progressive" (read: it doesn't steal enough) from those who want to leave something for their heirs. Second, who is usually hurt worst by a high estate tax? The uber-rich the DUmmies hue and cry about? Hardly. Look at the Kennedy clan for proof of that--old man Kennedy made his money off of bootlegging and supporting the Nazis (yes, DUmmies, he did--look up why he was recalled as US Ambassador to Britian) and put the entire family wealth into trust, meaning NOBODY in the government got their little mitts on it.
Some animals being more equal than others, shit like that.
Third and finally, wasn't this money already taxed? Wasn't this money saved through thrift and smart management rather than blowing it on Cheetos and pot? So you want to punish someone for doing the right thing? Guess what the result of that is going to be? A wise man once told me that perfect financial planning is when your check to the mortuary bounces. Think about it.
Oh, and since Powerball jackpots are so obscene, why don't we limit the max prize on those to $100? After all, you didn't do anything to EARN it, you just took someone else's money and got wicked lucky once. Again, just something to kick around as you're coming off that next meth bender.
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The rich didn't steal their money from you DUmmies.....you willingly gave them what little you had.....and now you want it back. :hammer:
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The rich didn't steal their money from you DUmmies.....you willingly gave them what little you had.....and now you want it back. :hammer:
However, I doubt they will return whatever goods and services they received in the initial exchange.
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I've been watching the thread on Skin's island since it went up. Their desires for the tables to turn and to be able to storm the Bastille are hilarious. Little do they realize there's a whole group of us out here who would gladly take that opportunity to cull their herd. Should the wealthy misuse their position, they're easy to take out. It's the political left that's the enemy of the US Constitution.
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I've been watching the thread on Skin's island since it went up. Their desires for the tables to turn and to be able to storm the Bastille are hilarious. Little do they realize there's a whole group of us out here who would gladly take that opportunity to cull their herd. Should the wealthy misuse their position, they're easy to take out. It's the political left that's the enemy of the US Constitution.
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When it all settles out these progs are not after just the "wealthy"...hell I am lower middle class at best and they would take all I have if they could.
They are in for a nasty surprise.
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When it all settles out these progs are not after just the "wealthy"...hell I am lower middle class at best and they would take all I have if they could.
They are in for a nasty surprise.
EXACTLY: One damn dime more than the poorest DUmmie puts a target on your back.
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These guys are plagiarists. They stole this shitte from Ban, who was ahead of the curve in 2008.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/BanTheGOP/39
5. Establish a fair tax system. In other posts I'm mandated a return to the fair tax policies of making sure the rich pay a significant percentage of their income, including a "maximum wage," or 100% taxation of all income over $10 million. Rates should be significantly raised across the board for individuals who make over $75,000 per year, while those who make $40,000 to $75,000 should not have their rates increased at this time. These tax rates should also be made permanent, with little chance they can be changed by future administrations. Having a comprehensive tax summary in the first 100 days will prove to the citizens, and the world citizens, that President Obama and the Democratic Congress are making significant steps to prevent further collapse of the republican-caused depression, and will prevent further catastrophes with this comprehensive tax legislation.
EDIT: I just reviewed the entire post from 5½ years ago, and I'll be damned at how much of this crap has actually been implemented, and in some cases, exceeded.
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Let me tell you a story.
There was this guy who we’ll just call Felix. He was dirt poor. At the age of 15, in Boston, he was responsible for helping support his mom and six siblings. He took a job at a hospital washing pots and pans.
The family finally moved to Lexington, NC. Felix got a job working a 12-hour shift in a furniture factory sanding furniture. A year later he moved to Charlotte, NC and took on two jobs. One was working as a parking lot attendant at a rental car place, and the other was washing cars at the airport.
Felix finally talked a local car dealer to give him a job selling cars for free with the understanding that if was able to out sell the other salesman within a month he would be paid and given a full time sales job. Felix succeeded and a newspaper story about the incident prompted another businessman to offer him a different sales position.
At the age of 25 he accepted a sales position with a company called TSC. He was so successful that in within three years he was able to buy the company. At the company’s peak it had over $12 billion dollars in sales.
In 1988 he bought a Hatteras fishing yacht dealership and within two years had turned it into the largest Hatteras dealership in the world.
To this day he owns and operates a Mercedes dealership along with several other auto dealerships.
Now it’s time for the rest of the story.
Felix’s family was originally wealthy. They had gotten that way through hard work and wisdom. The problem was that they lived in Cuba and when that country went communist all of their assets were taken by Castro.
Their move from Boston to Lexington, NC was made possible by a an American-based Catholic charity.
In 2000, he CHOSE to sell his company, TSC, to his employees at a price that was below market value to reward them for helping him build the business. In other words, his employees apparently worked instead of posting on the computer all day bitching.
He has served on many boards.
He is large donator to charities including the North Carolina Health Care System Foundation, the Allegro Foundation to benefit children with special needs, and the Levine Children’s Hospital.
Felix is a member of what lazy liberals would call the 1%, but he didn’t begin his life in this country as part of the 1%. Through hard work and dedication he climbed his way into the 1% bracket, and once there, he has freely helped those truly in need.
Felix Sabates began life in Cuban, but now he’s an American who is a member of the Republican Party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Sabates
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Sabates)
I’m not in the 1%. I’m far, far from the 1%, but on behalf of great Americans like Felix Sabates I say **** you to the parasitic DUmmies who would rather steal from others than break a sweat.
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^Beautiful Story ChuckJ. I shouldn't even call it a story, it is more of a testimonial.
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For you lurking DUmbshits:
[youtube=425,350]661pi6K-8WQ[/youtube]
Take everything from them. Kill their will to produce more. Then what?
Idiots.
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Let me tell you a story.
There was this guy who we’ll just call Felix. He was dirt poor. At the age of 15, in Boston, he was responsible for helping support his mom and six siblings. He took a job at a hospital washing pots and pans.
The family finally moved to Lexington, NC. Felix got a job working a 12-hour shift in a furniture factory sanding furniture. A year later he moved to Charlotte, NC and took on two jobs. One was working as a parking lot attendant at a rental car place, and the other was washing cars at the airport.
Felix finally talked a local car dealer to give him a job selling cars for free with the understanding that if was able to out sell the other salesman within a month he would be paid and given a full time sales job. Felix succeeded and a newspaper story about the incident prompted another businessman to offer him a different sales position.
At the age of 25 he accepted a sales position with a company called TSC. He was so successful that in within three years he was able to buy the company. At the company’s peak it had over $12 billion dollars in sales.
In 1988 he bought a Hatteras fishing yacht dealership and within two years had turned it into the largest Hatteras dealership in the world.
To this day he owns and operates a Mercedes dealership along with several other auto dealerships.
Now it’s time for the rest of the story.
Felix’s family was originally wealthy. They had gotten that way through hard work and wisdom. The problem was that they lived in Cuba and when that country went communist all of their assets were taken by Castro.
Their move from Boston to Lexington, NC was made possible by a an American-based Catholic charity.
In 2000, he CHOSE to sell his company, TSC, to his employees at a price that was below market value to reward them for helping him build the business. In other words, his employees apparently worked instead of posting on the computer all day bitching.
He has served on many boards.
He is large donator to charities including the North Carolina Health Care System Foundation, the Allegro Foundation to benefit children with special needs, and the Levine Children’s Hospital.
Felix is a member of what lazy liberals would call the 1%, but he didn’t begin his life in this country as part of the 1%. Through hard work and dedication he climbed his way into the 1% bracket, and once there, he has freely helped those truly in need.
Felix Sabates began life in Cuban, but now he’s an American who is a member of the Republican Party.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Sabates
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Sabates)
I’m not in the 1%. I’m far, far from the 1%, but on behalf of great Americans like Felix Sabates I say **** you to the parasitic DUmmies who would rather steal from others than break a sweat.
HI5!!!! :cheersmate:
You could confiscate every damn dollar in the country and dole it out equally. In 10 years the formerly broke people would be broke again and the formerly rich would be rich again. A damn dollar is nothing but a monetary unit that represents wealth/worth.
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I’m not in the 1%. I’m far, far from the 1%, but on behalf of great Americans like Felix Sabates I say **** you to the parasitic DUmmies who would rather steal from others than break a sweat.
I loved that ^....thanks for posting it :hi5: