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Title: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 24, 2014, 09:17:46 AM
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FarCenter (16,852 posts)

Japan Moves to Limit Bedbound Elderly On Feeding Tubes
   
For the first time, Japan is trying to hold down the number of bedbound elderly people kept alive, sometimes for years, by feeding tubes.

Following news articles by Bloomberg News and others, the government is planning to cut payouts on insertions in new patients and encourage home care. About a quarter-million Japanese elderly live on feeding tubes. Faced with a heavy public debt burden, Japan is trying to curtail growth in a 38.5 trillion yen ($376 billion) annual health bill by releasing patients from hospitals faster.

The health ministry also plans to boost reimbursements to institutions that check swallowing ability and encourage rehabilitation to help the bedridden eat by mouth. The changes, effective April 1, mark the first time Japan has cut government reimbursements for the practice.

“Eating is one of the most important human dignities and the country is moving forward to protect it,” said Kazuhiro Nagao, a doctor and deputy director of the Japan Society for Dying with Dignity.

The use of feeding tubes at the end of life, which isn’t standard practice in the western world, is common in Japan, the world’s fastest aging society. They often prolong the lives of terminally ill or dementia plagued Japanese elderly, and the ministry says almost a quarter of people nourished via a tube to the stomach were given one without an evaluation.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-23/japan-moves-to-limit-bedbound-elderly-on-feeding-tubes.html

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Hoyt (15,835 posts)

2. Economics forcing a lot of countries to do things previously unimaginable. Not Obama's fault
 
this time, although I'm sure some will try to pin it on him.

And that's the problem.

In a market system the market responds to changing economic environments. People will shunt money and resources based on their private decisions, i.e. when they decide to open their wallets or grab a shovel.

In statist systems things only change at the speed of parliament -- or dictatorial decree -- with the inevitable results.

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Nye Bevan (14,861 posts)

5. What an awful way to end your life.

I would prefer to die with dignity.

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malaise (116,604 posts)

8. That's why we have living wills

None of that crap for me.

I'd pull the plug myself.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024716785
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Skul on March 24, 2014, 09:44:08 AM
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I'd pull the plug myself.
Bunnies are helpful like that. 
Not a hateful bone in their little furry bodies.
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 24, 2014, 09:50:38 AM
There's a Moochelle force fed by tube over stuffed duck livers joke in here somewhere. :-)
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Dori on March 24, 2014, 10:14:42 AM
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2. Economics forcing a lot of countries to do things previously unimaginable. Not Obama's fault

You haven't read Obamacare yet, have you?

Only two out of ten cancer hospitals and treatments are covered under O'Care.

Stay healthy.




Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: landofconfusion80 on March 24, 2014, 10:18:53 AM
You haven't read Obamacare yet, have you?

Only two out of ten cancer hospitals and treatments are covered under O'Care.

Stay healthy.






One bright spot to note.... Harry Reid won't have to smell those commoners when he goes in for his liverspot biopsies, so there's that...
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 24, 2014, 10:29:09 AM
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I'd pull the plug myself.

And the Dead DUmmy forum will need a new color code.
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Chris_ on March 24, 2014, 10:38:45 AM
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Nye Bevan (14,861 posts)

5. What an awful way to end your life.

I would prefer to die with dignity.
What a laugh.  None of these moochers live with any dignity... certainly not stewert or LFR or Underground Panther, or any number of countless shut-ins and head cases that populate DU.  Why should their deaths be any different.
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 24, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
I wonder if LocoNuts and Dennis the Menace are still above room temperature.

You'd never know from the lame Dead DUmmy forum.
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Dori on March 24, 2014, 11:02:03 AM
I wonder if LocoNuts and Dennis the Menace are still above room temperature.

There are a lot of missing DUmmies.  Whatever happened to leftcoast2020 that was last seen sleeping on the floor in a church?



Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: thundley4 on March 24, 2014, 11:07:20 AM
Personally, I'd rather have my tax dollars go to keep someone alive on a ventilator and feeding tubes if they once were a productive member of society than to pay for some moochers food stamps that has done nothing more than pop out more moochers.
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Bad Dog on March 24, 2014, 12:09:22 PM
Can you shove Cheetos through a feeding tube?
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Dori on March 24, 2014, 12:13:06 PM
Can you shove Cheetos through a feeding tube?

Probably, if they were ground up in a kale smoothie.
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on March 24, 2014, 12:27:19 PM
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FarCenter (16,852 posts)

Japan Moves to Limit Bedbound Elderly On Feeding Tubes
   
For the first time, Japan is trying to hold down the number of bedbound elderly people kept alive, sometimes for years, by feeding tubes.

Following news articles by Bloomberg News and others, the government is planning to cut payouts on insertions in new patients and encourage home care. About a quarter-million Japanese elderly live on feeding tubes. Faced with a heavy public debt burden, Japan is trying to curtail growth in a 38.5 trillion yen ($376 billion) annual health bill by releasing patients from hospitals faster.

Maybe they are just trying to curtail what occurred in Roujin Z from happening in real life?
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Chris_ on March 24, 2014, 12:35:22 PM
Give Grandma a pill and send her home.
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: BadCat on March 24, 2014, 06:31:17 PM
What a laugh.  None of these moochers live with any dignity... certainly not stewert or LFR or Underground Panther, or any number of countless shut-ins and head cases that populate DU.  Why should their deaths be any different.

I suppose they believe dying alone, covered in their own urine and feces, being eaten by their starving cats and/or raccoons, and not having your corpse discovered for 3 months is "dignity".
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: diesel driver on March 24, 2014, 06:50:17 PM
I suppose they believe dying alone, covered in their own urine and feces, being eaten by their starving cats and/or raccoons, and not having your corpse discovered for 3 months is "dignity".

For a DUmmie it is the best they can hope for.   :lmao:
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Big Dog on March 24, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
Can you shove Cheetos through a feeding tube?

Sure, just like shooting them out of a blowgun!
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Big Dog on March 24, 2014, 09:38:50 PM
Probably, if they were ground up in a kale smoothie.

I don't know what color a kale smoothie would normally be, but the addition of day-glo orange Cheeto sludge couldn't be a good thing.
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Dori on March 24, 2014, 09:50:14 PM
I don't know what color a kale smoothie would normally be, but the addition of day-glo orange Cheeto sludge couldn't be a good thing.

Especially the next day.
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: Big Dog on March 24, 2014, 09:53:57 PM
Especially the next day.

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Proglodytes in deep denial over the inevitable results of DemCare
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 25, 2014, 09:47:53 AM
I suppose they believe dying alone, covered in their own urine and feces, being eaten by their starving cats and/or raccoons, and not having your corpse discovered for 3 months is "dignity".

Sounds like a step up for most of them, actually.