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The Bar => The Lounge => Topic started by: dane on March 12, 2014, 04:52:39 PM
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About 6 years ago had stage 1 squamous cell melanoma removed from my side, and from one arm. For a long time after that I saw the dermatologist every 3 months, and about two years ago switched to every 6 months.
Yesterday was the first time since my initial visit that I did not have something frozen, cut, or stitches removed.
But warm weather is here, and I can leave my shirt inside the house.
We don' need no steenkin' sun block!
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Glad to hear you got good news. :)
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About 6 years ago had stage 1 squamous cell melanoma removed from my side, and from one arm. For a long time after that I saw the dermatologist every 3 months, and about two years ago switched to every 6 months.
Yesterday was the first time since my initial visit that I did not have something frozen, cut, or stitches removed.
But warm weather is here, and I can leave my shirt inside the house.
We don' need no steenkin' sun block!
Poor Dane, Yah I know what this is like, I had to go through the MOES treatment and get half my face cut away and as a female have to look at train tracks of black stitches running up and down my face.
You sir are an idiot to ever go running about in the sun with no protection. Not like when we old timers went out to get a nice tan and glow 50 fifty years ago, Even our grandparents wore hats back then.
I have seen some horrid sun burns on people with dark skin children, as recently as the 2,000's. Just because you and family have dark brown skin does not mean you will not get skin damage and not know it.
Truck drivers--long haul with the left arm out the window seem to get some wicked problems , as they age.
Cover up or slather on the SPC outside, times have changed and with it the Earth and the things that can cause you problems.
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You sir are an idiot to ever go running about in the sun with no protection. Not like when we old timers went out to get a nice tan and glow 50 fifty years ago, Even our grandparents wore hats back then.
Ill-advised or imprudent perhaps.
At age 71 the damage was done many, many years ago. Spent many happy hours on the beaches of N. Fla. in and around Jacksonville, St. Augustine, and Fernandina.
Spent many, many happy hours working in the yard in good weather wearing shorts and shoes sans (that's without) shirt. Many more running and bicycling wearing shorts and shoes sans shirt.
Ill-advised or imprudent perhaps, but not an idiot.
Some folks even today are smokers. Others drink and drive. Some put mind altering substances that may or may not be legal into their bodies. Documented evidence shows these things are often deadly, and I don't do any of them. The folks who do those various substances won't/don't change, neither will I at this late stage.
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Ill-advised or imprudent perhaps.
At age 71 the damage was done many, many years ago. Spent many happy hours on the beaches of N. Fla. in and around Jacksonville, St. Augustine, and Fernandina.
Spent many, many happy hours working in the yard in good weather wearing shorts and shoes sans (that's without) shirt. Many more running and bicycling wearing shorts and shoes sans shirt.
Ill-advised or imprudent perhaps, but not an idiot.
I recall girls using baby oil to get darker tans back in the 70's.
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Ill-advised or imprudent perhaps.
You've probably seen some of vestanumbers' posts since you've been around for a while. If you have, you've noted a lower-level of cognitive ability that she possesses. In other words, ain't no big deal (and you're certainly not taking it that way, which is a great plus for you).
vestanumbers continually broadcasts her geriatric condition, as if somehow age equals sense. She routinely demonstrates a complete lack of sense which, most of the rest of us look at and scratch our heads in wonder.
Spent many, many happy hours working in the yard in good weather wearing shorts and shoes sans (that's without) shirt.
You, sir, strike me as being a stand-up guy. :thumbs: If I haven't already said it, welcome. And vestanumbers? When she reaches down about three times a day and pulls her head out of her butt, she can -- on rare occasions -- actually make some sense.
But I never hold my breath waiting for that to happen. :-)
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You've probably seen some of vestanumbers' posts since you've been around for a while. If you have, you've noted a lower-level of cognitive ability that she possesses. In other words, ain't no big deal (and you're certainly not taking it that way, which is a great plus for you).
vestanumbers continually broadcasts her geriatric condition, as if somehow age equals sense. She routinely demonstrates a complete lack of sense which, most of the rest of us look at and scratch our heads in wonder.
You, sir, strike me as being a stand-up guy. :thumbs: If I haven't already said it, welcome. And vestanumbers? When she reaches down about three times a day and pulls her head out of her butt, she can -- on rare occasions -- actually make some sense.
But I never hold my breath waiting for that to happen. :-)
Eupher my dear friend :tongue:
Dane, you are a few years older then I but we are from the same generation and I am sure you have noticed how things have changed in the last 50+ years.
Back in the 60's we girls would mix baby oil with a few drops of iodine to get some interesting tans, some came out bright orange. Even today with the spray tans we buy sometimes they turn a strange color on some people.
Parents and grand parents up north in the spring would push us kids outside to get some color as they said we looked pasty white from the winters inside. So off we went with no skin protection and get sunburned to the point we could actually peel of the very top layer of skin, like a snake sheading its skin.
Now it is only in the last 25 years or so I see and hear of more and more people getting some kind of skin cancer.
When I first noticed a little bump on my face I ignored it until I noticed it was starting to sprout small bumps around it. I did as an after thought call it to my Doctors attention and the very next day I had to go to the skin Doctor. She removed the bumps leaving a small scar.
One week later I had an appointment with a surgeon that did the MOES treatment for skin cancer. Dane, this was the most scared time in my life, seems the cancer cells had spread into my cheeks and into my jaw. What should have been an hours treatment now took well over 6 hours as the doctor had to track down the cells and remove them before they too could spread.
What a mess for a female to see one whole side of her face chris crossed with black train tracks. I looked like a zombie and how was I to go to work or out of my home without scaring the dogs and horses?
It takes a year or more after the stitches are removed for the face to fill in and all signs of the operation to go away No scars except the fear the Doctor may have missed a couple to come back in the future.
To make matters worse as I could no longer live my life as it had been, living on the water sailing, jet skiing and Kayaking without 3 pounds of sun block and the fear that was not enough.
So Dane, I no longer go out into the sun at this time, I take triple doses of D3, benefit is my hair grows faster and longer, but this has sure changed my life in way too many ways to tell.
Such a simple thing as a skin cancer that mutates through the body, cause of death may be some organ failure but it can start as a strange pimple or mole on the body.
Eupher, get your shit together and realize that one does not wear sandals in crocodile country.
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Eupher my dear friend :tongue:
Dane, you are a few years older then I but we are from the same generation and I am sure you have noticed how things have changed in the last 50+ years.
Back in the 60's we girls would mix baby oil with a few drops of iodine to get some interesting tans, some came out bright orange. Even today with the spray tans we buy sometimes they turn a strange color on some people.
Parents and grand parents up north in the spring would push us kids outside to get some color as they said we looked pasty white from the winters inside. So off we went with no skin protection and get sunburned to the point we could actually peel of the very top layer of skin, like a snake sheading its skin.
Now it is only in the last 25 years or so I see and hear of more and more people getting some kind of skin cancer.
When I first noticed a little bump on my face I ignored it until I noticed it was starting to sprout small bumps around it. I did as an after thought call it to my Doctors attention and the very next day I had to go to the skin Doctor. She removed the bumps leaving a small scar.
One week later I had an appointment with a surgeon that did the MOES treatment for skin cancer. Dane, this was the most scared time in my life, seems the cancer cells had spread into my cheeks and into my jaw. What should have been an hours treatment now took well over 6 hours as the doctor had to track down the cells and remove them before they too could spread.
What a mess for a female to see one whole side of her face chris crossed with black train tracks. I looked like a zombie and how was I to go to work or out of my home without scaring the dogs and horses?
It takes a year or more after the stitches are removed for the face to fill in and all signs of the operation to go away No scars except the fear the Doctor may have missed a couple to come back in the future.
To make matters worse as I could no longer live my life as it had been, living on the water sailing, jet skiing and Kayaking without 3 pounds of sun block and the fear that was not enough. As will we all, I am going to die. It is not productive to worry constantly about it.
So Dane, I no longer go out into the sun at this time I do, regularly. That does not make me an idiot. , I take triple doses of D3, benefit is my hair grows faster and longer, but this has sure changed my life in way too many ways to tell.
Such a simple thing as a skin cancer that mutates through the body, cause of death may be some organ failure but it can start as a strange pimple or mole on the body.
Eupher, get your shit together and realize that one does not wear sandals in crocodile country.
A BS for the long dissertation that did not address the 'idiot' issue.
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Eupher my dear friend :tongue:
vestanumbers, you get a rousing bitchslap for even THINKING that I'm a dear friend. Even in sarcasm, you have no business even thinking that way. <shudders>
Eupher, get your shit together and realize that one does not wear sandals in crocodile country.
:whatever:
If you could even come close to pulling your head out of your ass long enough to even FIND your sandals, you might have room to issue that edict.
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vestanumbers, you get a rousing bitchslap for even THINKING that I'm a dear friend. Even in sarcasm, you have no business even thinking that way. <shudders>
:whatever:
If you could even come close to pulling your head out of your ass long enough to even FIND your sandals, you might have room to issue that edict.
Dear Eupher, my head is not shaped like a rat turd, pointed on both ends so the chance of getting it up my butt is not likely. :tongue:
Now-----Once someone gets cancer in any form it can go two ways, one is to have it all removed but all ways expecting it to come back in its original form or to mutate into another area.
Males can grow a beard to cover any scars but woman cannot and it is a blow to a female to be disfigured by the chopping up of the face and have to wait a year or so to begin to look normal.
It is for me normal now to spot on others faces odd things that look like mine did knowing if it is the same as mine the woman is in for an awful time in the future.
Sneaky thing skin cancer, mine started out looking like a black head for months. It changed to look like a very small fat lump, took forever to do anything. After a couple of years it began to grow baby's around it. All were so small I paid little attention to it.
I am British on Dads side and we do get moles as part of the DNA so I thought it was just another odd mole as we Brits do get some interesting ones.
I do not know why I called my DR's attention to it she had done my physical seen it but paid no attention as it was so small. She sent me to the skin doctor to have it removed and checked out and I was informed it was cancer. Off I went to get the Moes treatment and found the cells had spread to one side of my face from my nose into my jaw and up to
the side of the top of my ear.
Had I not called attention to it when I did, the cells would have traveled in my body to heavens knows where.
Close call for me, no Chemo needed as they got it early. But I never know when it may come back in a place I cannot see, on the back or back of legs.
Still, it was a shock to see my face carved up with the black stitches that were so God awful I was afraid I would scare the grandkids. Had to take a leave of absence from work as I was not going out in public with the scars and a face of Frankenstein's Wife.
Cancer of any kind is horrid, skin cancer especially as it is a disease that is visible to all and
may or not have spread.
So Dane who is flirting with disaster, scares me. This is nothing to fool with, why feed cancer with skin exposure to the very thing that may have caused it in the first place ??
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Dear Eupher, my head is not shaped like a rat turd, pointed on both ends so the chance of getting it up my butt is not likely. :tongue:
I dunno about that. I think you're capable of a great many things, besides being incoherent most of the time.
Males can grow a beard to cover any scars but woman cannot and it is a blow to a female to be disfigured by the chopping up of the face and have to wait a year or so to begin to look normal.
Wrong as usual, vesta. Squamous cell carcinoma can occur anywhere, but most often surfaces on the ear rim, forehead, nose, cheek, or other place on the head where hair does not grow. Come back when you've done some research, mmmkay?
So Dane who is flirting with disaster, scares me. This is nothing to fool with, why feed cancer with skin exposure to the very thing that may have caused it in the first place ??
Dane is 71 years old. And he's not an idiot. Why do you insist on preaching your bullshit to a man who is going to live his life the way he sees fit?
vesta, believe me, you do much, much better when your head is shoved up your ass. At least your voice is muffled.
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I've spent most of my life outside in the sun. I started wearing long sleeve shirts and hats full time 40 years ago. I used to look at the arms and faces of old farmers and see the damage and scars from skin cancer surgery, I know what the sun can do.
The doctor tells me my blue eyes(at least the rt eye does) now have cataracts from prolonged exposure to sunlight.
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I dunno about that. I think you're capable of a great many things, besides being incoherent most of the time.
Wrong as usual, vesta. Squamous cell carcinoma can occur anywhere, but most often surfaces on the ear rim, forehead, nose, cheek, or other place on the head where hair does not grow. Come back when you've done some research, mmmkay?
Dane is 71 years old. And he's not an idiot. Why do you insist on preaching your bullshit to a man who is going to live his life the way he sees fit?
vesta, believe me, you do much, much better when your head is shoved up your ass. At least your voice is muffled.
Don't you know that Vesta is an authority on everything. You name a medical condition and she has had it or a family member has had it. It could be a disease that there only 10 cases world wide and she would right there giving out more info. than you ever wanted to know.
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Don't you know that Vesta is an authority on everything. You name a medical condition and she has had it or a family member has had it. It could be a disease that there only 10 cases world wide and she would right there giving out more info. than you ever wanted to know.
Werd. Every once in a while, her pontificating reminds me of a Joe Biden speech. Full of bluster and conviction, completely devoid of rational, coherent thought. :whatever:
Another bitchslap for vesta. I think that one left a welt.
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Werd. Every once in a while, her pontificating reminds me of a Joe Biden speech. Full of bluster and conviction, completely devoid of rational, coherent thought. :whatever:
Another bitchslap for vesta. I think that one left a welt.
Going to see my dermatologist tomorrow. Will let him prescribe treatment cause I surely do not want an uneducated diagnosis.
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I've spent most of my life outside in the sun. I started wearing long sleeve shirts and hats full time 40 years ago. I used to look at the arms and faces of old farmers and see the damage and scars from skin cancer surgery, I know what the sun can do.
The doctor tells me my blue eyes(at least the rt eye does) now have cataracts from prolonged exposure to sunlight.
Can't tell these people anything that they have not experienced yet, but they will.
Same as when we when we have a solar eclipse and people are warned not to look without a way to protect their eyes. Fancy the thousands of years people looked at these events and had to bumble about with bad eye sight.
Blue eyes are subject to the north and brown eyes to the south.
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Can't tell these people anything that they have not experienced yet, but they will.
Same as when we when we have a solar eclipse and people are warned not to look without a way to protect their eyes. Fancy the thousands of years people looked at these events and had to bumble about with bad eye sight.
Blue eyes are subject to the north and brown eyes to the south.
<<<Knows from personal experience that looking at an eclipse with the naked eye can cause scar tissue on the retina. I also know that the human body can make corrections for stupidity some times.
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<<<Knows from personal experience that looking at an eclipse with the naked eye can cause scar tissue on the retina. I also know that the human body can make corrections for stupidity some times.
ARGGGGG, I can only tell of what I myself experienced or close family members. There are times when family will tell me of what they survived from, war or disease but this was an issue long ago.
Why even think these problems will come back to the present.??
Who would think Anthrax would come back to haunt us as we move home developments in the South West ?
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ARGGGGG, I can only tell of what I myself experienced or close family members. There are times when family will tell me of what they survived from, war or disease but this was an issue long ago.
Why even think these problems will come back to the present.??
Who would think Anthrax would come back to haunt us as we move home developments in the South West ?
Another bitchslap. That one for failing to answer the questions posed to you earlier.
But that's the way you roll, vesta. You, like a dog, live in the moment. You're singularly incapable of carrying on a conversation at any level because of the way you delve into your *own* experiences or your *own* way of thinking.
Do you by any chance have fleas?
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I recall girls using baby oil to get darker tans back in the 70's.
I was one of those . . .
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Another bitchslap. That one for failing to answer the questions posed to you earlier.
But that's the way you roll, vesta. You, like a dog, live in the moment. You're singularly incapable of carrying on a conversation at any level because of the way you delve into your *own* experiences or your *own* way of thinking.
Do you by any chance have fleas?
My dear Eupher,, Do I have fleas, I do lay down with dogs and cats in my bed at night, however since my pets have no fleas I have no worry.
How may I ask how to understand life if one does not learn from the past, the history of ones family or area of their parents chosen settlement ?
What Church one is raised in, the time and laws in the community, the schools one goes to-- remember I was part of the generation of the Drop and Cover generation that from first grade to high school led us to believe that at any moment we could see our family's die in a nuclear attack. All we had to do to survive was to climb under our desk at school. No worry about how we were to get home, no worry about our family, just get under our desk to survive.
Bombarded with Government films at school or on the TV about how to survive an attack, parents filling up the cellars with water and canned foods, not that that would do any good as it was all a placating idea to make us feel safe and feel we were safe, no worry----Insane.
Difficult to forget what we remember as the 1960's and the problems in the South, TV showed police dogs attacking American Citizens that wanted nothing more then to have the same rights as other citizens.
My kids will never have to see and stand aghast at what I saw and lived through, the horror of the returning Vet mam veteran being pelted with rotten tomatoes and called baby killers.
So much has appalled me and given me reason to wonder just what the heck is going on in America, worse yet is this time of Obama that is so far beyond anything I ever imagined
in this country------
Yup, we have a long row to hoe to get America back, if we ever can.
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Vesta you are one batshit crazy broad.
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Vesta you are one batshit crazy broad.
^^^This.
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Blue eyes are subject to the north and brown eyes to the south.
Is this some sort of code, like "The fox in the swamp has wet feet"?
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I think sweat is the best sunblock. Ever notice farmers and construction workers tans? I worked outside for years paving. I never wore a shirt or sunblock but was always covered in sweat. Used to get charcoal tan and never burn. If I lay in the sun with out working I get an instant burn?