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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: TheSarge on July 01, 2008, 01:22:41 PM
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Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) waded into the debate over John McCain's military service Monday to say that the Republican should avoid using military service in politics.
Webb, a Barack Obama supporter, was on MSNBC's "Countdown" to talk about his G.I. Bill to increase education benefits for returning veterans which is now law. Webb criticized both McCain and President Bush for not supporting the bill. Then, unprompted, Webb weighed in on the debate over retired Gen. Wesley Clark's remark that "riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down" isn't "a qualification to be president."
"I think what we really need to work on over the next four, five months, and it goes back to the speech that Sen. Obama gave [Tuesday] and this little fight that I've been watching and that is, we need to make sure that we take politics out of service," Webb said. "People don't serve their country for political issues."
He continued: "And John McCain's my long-time friend, if that is one area that I would ask him to calm down on, it`s that, don't be standing up and uttering your political views and implying that all the people in the military support them because they don't, any more than when the Democrats have political issues during the Vietnam War. Let's get the politics out of the military, take care of our military people, or have our political arguments in other areas."
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/07/01/webb-mccain-should-calm-down-on-using-military-service/
*sniff* Smell that? :whatever:
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McCain will lay off his military record if Obama lays off his skin color.
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McCain will lay off his military record if Obama lays off his skin color.
or if Webb ever starts doing it. pot/kettle
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So it's only ok if DEMs play the military service card, a la the 2004 convention, correct? :whatever:
And I haven't heard McCain make that much ado about his military record..
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So it's only ok if DEMs play the military service card, a la the 2004 convention, correct? :whatever:
And I haven't heard McCain make that much ado about his military record..
no, he hasn't just a slightly less ham handed way of subtracting McC's veteren status than ole Wes did.
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Webb wants to downplay Obama's complete ineptitude as Commander-in-Chief. Sorry Bozo, that's part of the job; hope and change is not what we need in that regard.
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what was reported on FNC this morning is that no less than 8 "surrogates" such as Clark have attacked McCain's military record. It is done purposefully so then Obamalama ding dong can come out and deny knowing a thing about it. Buncha chicken-Sh** cowards. Obamalama ding dong is too stupid to be POTUS, he don't know a damned thing about nuttin' honey! :rotf:
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what was reported on FNC this morning is that no less than 8 "surrogates" such as Clark have attacked McCain's military record. It is done purposefully so then Obamalama ding dong can come out and deny knowing a thing about it. Buncha chicken-Sh** cowards. Obamalama ding dong is too stupid to be POTUS, he don't know a damned thing about nuttin' honey! :rotf:
Swiftboating appears to have become tactic #1 for BHO
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http://usmilnet.com/smf/index.php/topic,13026.0.html
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http://usmilnet.com/smf/index.php/topic,13026.0.html
Webb and ESPECIALLY that fraud Tom Harikin don't need to say ANYTHING about anyone's military service.
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http://usmilnet.com/smf/index.php/topic,13026.0.html
Webb and ESPECIALLY that fraud Tom Harikin don't need to say ANYTHING about anyone's military service.
Webb needs to stick to writing pedophyle porn
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Hmmmm, military service should not be an issue, huh? Somebody forgot to tell John Heinz $kerry about that plank in the dim platform. I guess Pres. Kennedy having a PT boat shot out from under him should never have been an issue either. :whatever:
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I guess Pres. Kennedy having a PT boat shot out from under him should never have been an issue either. :whatever:
It was actually rammed into two pieces by a Japanese destroyer.
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*sniff* Smell that?
I do believe I smell a double-scoop of liberal hypocrisy, Sarge.
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*sniff* Smell that?
I do believe I smell a double-scoop of liberal hypocrisy, Sarge.
BINGO!
Dood runs on his "war record" even uses the fact he was (fired as) Navy Secretary under Ronaldus Magnus in his ads...to the point Nancy told him to stop.
:whatever:
Yet when McCain touts his military experience it's something that's supposed to be "toned down".
Webb just need to STFU.
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what was reported on FNC this morning is that no less than 8 "surrogates" such as Clark have attacked McCain's military record. It is done purposefully so then Obamalama ding dong can come out and deny knowing a thing about it. Buncha chicken-Sh** cowards. Obamalama ding dong is too stupid to be POTUS, he don't know a damned thing about nuttin' honey! :rotf:
Swiftboating appears to have become tactic #1 for BHO
Wrong use of the word. If McCain had lied about his record and then ran on it, THAT would be "Swiftboating." That is not the case. His long distinguished military career is an open book.
Unlike J F'ing Kerry, whose career was brief and the particulars faked.
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I guess Pres. Kennedy having a PT boat shot out from under him should never have been an issue either. :whatever:
It was actually rammed into two pieces by a Japanese destroyer.
Same thing. Losing your boat or ship in the water is the same as losing your plane in the sky.
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*sniff* Smell that?
I do believe I smell a double-scoop of liberal hypocrisy, Sarge.
BINGO!
Dood runs on his "war record" even uses the fact he was (fired as) Navy Secretary under Ronaldus Magnus in his ads...to the point Nancy told him to stop.
:whatever:
Yet when McCain touts his military experience it's something that's supposed to be "toned down".
Webb just need to STFU.
Webb is a boor, with no respect for manners or civility.
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McCain will lay off his military record if Obama lays off his skin color.
H5 brother!
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The ironic thing about it all is that I haven't really NOTICED McCain touting his war record all that much. It's a part of his life, and a significant one at that, but he certainly doesn't use it as his one-trick pony like John (Did you know I was in Vietnam?) Skerry.
And last I recall, nobody has had to ask McCain to sign his SF-180 to release his records. Hmmmmm...
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"Calm down"? WTF? Did sKerry "calm down" off his military service when they dragged his Lurch looking as up as the Dem ballot last year? Or how about Max Cleeland in the Georgia senate elections? Hell, McCain isn't really talking up his war record a whole lot. He doesn't really need to. He has more experience in the government in his pinky finger than Obama.
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The ironic thing about it all is that I haven't really NOTICED McCain touting his war record all that much. It's a part of his life, and a significant one at that, but he certainly doesn't use it as his one-trick pony like John (Did you know I was in Vietnam?) Skerry.
And last I recall, nobody has had to ask McCain to sign his SF-180 to release his records. Hmmmmm...
Nor has he been exploiting the service of his 2 sons. Actually, I have to admit..... there are many reasons to admire the charity of John and Cindy McCain that we really don't hear too much about.
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The ironic thing about it all is that I haven't really NOTICED McCain touting his war record all that much. It's a part of his life, and a significant one at that, but he certainly doesn't use it as his one-trick pony like John (Did you know I was in Vietnam?) Skerry.
And last I recall, nobody has had to ask McCain to sign his SF-180 to release his records. Hmmmmm...
Nor has he been exploiting the service of his 2 sons. Actually, I have to admit..... there are many reasons to admire the charity of John and Cindy McCain that we really don't hear too much about.
I would like to see McCains 2 sons in full battle gear at the convention when he accepts the nomination in Nov. Talk about blow the Democraps out of the water; piss them off to the max.
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The ironic thing about it all is that I haven't really NOTICED McCain touting his war record all that much. It's a part of his life, and a significant one at that, but he certainly doesn't use it as his one-trick pony like John (Did you know I was in Vietnam?) Skerry.
And last I recall, nobody has had to ask McCain to sign his SF-180 to release his records. Hmmmmm...
Nor has he been exploiting the service of his 2 sons. Actually, I have to admit..... there are many reasons to admire the charity of John and Cindy McCain that we really don't hear too much about.
I would like to see McCains 2 sons in full battle gear at the convention when he accepts the nomination in Nov. Talk about blow the Democraps out of the water; piss them off to the max.
if only they could do that without being relieved of duty and tried...
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The ironic thing about it all is that I haven't really NOTICED McCain touting his war record all that much. It's a part of his life, and a significant one at that, but he certainly doesn't use it as his one-trick pony like John (Did you know I was in Vietnam?) Skerry.
And last I recall, nobody has had to ask McCain to sign his SF-180 to release his records. Hmmmmm...
Nor has he been exploiting the service of his 2 sons. Actually, I have to admit..... there are many reasons to admire the charity of John and Cindy McCain that we really don't hear too much about.
I would like to see McCains 2 sons in full battle gear at the convention when he accepts the nomination in Nov. Talk about blow the Democraps out of the water; piss them off to the max.
if only they could do that without being relieved of duty and tried...
Yeah... that would be very very bad.
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I would like to see McCains 2 sons in full battle gear at the convention when he accepts the nomination in Nov. Talk about blow the Democraps out of the water; piss them off to the max.
if only they could do that without being relieved of duty and tried...
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Yeah... that would be very very bad.
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If they were home on leave and showed up at the convention in civilian clothing, I don't see the problem. Enlighten me.
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there's a difference between civilian attire and military uniform... the military tries to remain apolitical, and so has strict punishments for any activities that could be construed as official endorsement of one candidate or another.
your original comment stated full battle gear. bottom line, regs say don't go to political rallies in uniform, i don't think the convention could be much more political if it tried.
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Webb wants to downplay Obama's complete ineptitude as Commander-in-Chief. Sorry Bozo, that's part of the job; hope and change is not what we need in that regard.
i actually heard John Kerry saying, "this is not the McCain I know.." as if McCain has spoken about even 1/10th the amount of his military ordeal in 30something years, as Kerry did in one presidential election.
Kerry is trying, like the others, to make military experience (during war time!) a zero sum game. it doesnt give a person any more insight into being president than being in the senate for 143 days does. they are trying to zero out everyone's experience cause Barack just has nothing going for him.
McCain better hit back hard on this one... or somebody should.
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*sniff* Smell that?
I do believe I smell a double-scoop of liberal hypocrisy, Sarge.
BINGO!
Dood runs on his "war record" even uses the fact he was (fired as) Navy Secretary under Ronaldus Magnus in his ads...to the point Nancy told him to stop.
:whatever:
Yet when McCain touts his military experience it's something that's supposed to be "toned down".
Webb just need to STFU.
i havent heard much from McCain about his service, other than when people ask him questions about it on the trail.. but, i have heard some stuff about Webb's son in combat.
McCain actually has a rule on not talking about his children. Cindy McCain will talk about them sporadically... but John McCain does not. and he has two sons in the military.
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I haven't read or heard of McCain making a big issue of his military service.
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I haven't read or heard of McCain making a big issue of his military service.
Because he doesn't.
Unlike j fing kerry, McCain actually served his time and earned his awards and understood the price he paid (as opposed to some owies by the former).
He doesn't make his service an issue because it isn't and he has too much honor to make it so.