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Title: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: DLR Pyro on March 06, 2014, 04:38:28 PM
Obama Promises Illegals: Obamacare Sign Up Info Won't Be Used for Deportation (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-promises-illegals-obamacare-sign-info-wont-be-used-deportation_784228.html)

WTF?  Did I miss something?  When did illegals become eligible for obamacare? 
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: thundley4 on March 06, 2014, 04:52:56 PM
When congress allowed Obama to rewrite the laws at his whim with no challenge.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: J P Sousa on March 06, 2014, 05:57:17 PM
Obama Promises Illegals: Obamacare Sign Up Info Won't Be Used for Deportation (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-promises-illegals-obamacare-sign-info-wont-be-used-deportation_784228.html)

WTF?  Did I miss something?  When did illegals become eligible for obamacare? 

When republicans self-neutered.
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Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: DLR Pyro on March 06, 2014, 06:14:47 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTltZnUbB4Y[/youtube]

oops, he did it again/  what is this now, lie # 7698?
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: Dori on March 06, 2014, 06:18:17 PM
You would think someone would keep track of all his lies.  But the media doesn't report them, so who knows?



Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: J P Sousa on March 06, 2014, 06:42:44 PM
Well,

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All False statements involving Barack Obama

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/

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Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: obumazombie on March 07, 2014, 12:48:51 AM
He lied when he said they wouldn't be covered. But is he lying when he says he won't use it to deport ?
This could be a de facto illegal alien registration.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: willcross on March 08, 2014, 01:34:04 AM
That article specifically says they are not eligible? If illegals give birth to a child in America, the kid is a legal citizen. The mom can sign the kid up, without worrying about getting herself and husband deported. The parents would not receive coverage tho.

If Obama lied about illegals being eligible, wouldn't it be on this list?

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: Purple Sage on March 08, 2014, 02:10:57 AM
That article specifically says they are not eligible? If illegals give birth to a child in America, the kid is a legal citizen. The mom can sign the kid up, without worrying about getting herself and husband deported. The parents would not receive coverage tho.

If Obama lied about illegals being eligible, wouldn't it be on this list?

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/

There are only four pages of lies.  Obviously, the list isn't all-encompassing as he told that many lies the first few months.  No, I will not enumerate them.  You should have paid attention.  If you had, you wouldn't have voted for him the second time and you sure as hell wouldn't be here now making a nuisance of yourself.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: Freeper on March 08, 2014, 07:11:57 AM
That article specifically says they are not eligible? If illegals give birth to a child in America, the kid is a legal citizen. The mom can sign the kid up, without worrying about getting herself and husband deported. The parents would not receive coverage tho.

If Obama lied about illegals being eligible, wouldn't it be on this list?

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/

Obama has a pen so illegals will probably be eligible.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: NHSparky on March 08, 2014, 07:15:42 AM
That article specifically says they are not eligible? If illegals give birth to a child in America, the kid is a legal citizen. The mom can sign the kid up, without worrying about getting herself and husband deported. The parents would not receive coverage tho.

If Obama lied about illegals being eligible, wouldn't it be on this list?

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/statements/byruling/false/

Okay, and if the kid was brought here as a child (i.e., still illegal) but registered under the DREAM Act (also illegal, but when has the rule of law ever mattered to this administration) they can in fact get Obamacare.

Next case, dipshit?
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 08, 2014, 08:23:50 AM
Do we not have enough home grown government tit suckers?.....we have to start importing them now?
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: willcross on March 08, 2014, 01:04:43 PM
Okay, and if the kid was brought here as a child (i.e., still illegal) but registered under the DREAM Act (also illegal, but when has the rule of law ever mattered to this administration) they can in fact get Obamacare.

Next case, dipshit?

I've never cursed at you, I'd appreciate it if you don't curse at me.

The DREAM act was never passed. Some states have implemented similar programs but that has nothing to do with Obama.

Hussein enacted DACA which delays deportation but provides no path to citizenship. DACA people are not eligible to receive healthcare from the exchanges.

Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: Dori on March 08, 2014, 01:27:08 PM
I've seen illegals get medical care.  They fill up the emergency rooms at every hospital I've ever been in.



 

Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: willcross on March 08, 2014, 01:49:48 PM
I've seen illegals get medical care.  They fill up the emergency rooms at every hospital I've ever been in.



 



That's true, but that has been in place since Reagan. Of course people get treatment without having to show proof of insurance or citizenship. If a mugger stabs someone and steals their wallet, should they be allowed to bleed out because they can't prove they are a citizen?
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: DLR Pyro on March 08, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
That article specifically says they are not eligible? If illegals give birth to a child in America, the kid is a legal citizen. The mom can sign the kid up, without worrying about getting herself and husband deported. The parents would not receive coverage tho.


see, that's the problem here.  I want the illegals to worry every minute of the day that they will get caught and sent home.  I don't want to make life for law breakers easy.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: willcross on March 08, 2014, 01:52:55 PM
see, that's the problem here.  I want the illegals to worry every minute of the day that they will get caught and sent home.  I don't want to make life for law breakers easy.

I think that's a valid point.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: DLR Pyro on March 08, 2014, 01:53:16 PM
That's true, but that has been in place since Reagan. Of course people get treatment without having to show proof of insurance or citizenship. If a mugger stabs someone and steals their wallet, should they be allowed to bleed out because they can't prove they are a citizen?
give them the medical care to save their life and send them the bill.  If they don't pay the bill, make their country of residence pay the bill.  If their country of residence doesn't pay the bill, deduct it from any foreign aid we send that country.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: NHSparky on March 08, 2014, 07:44:23 PM
I've never cursed at you, I'd appreciate it if you don't curse at me.

The DREAM act was never passed. Some states have implemented similar programs but that has nothing to do with Obama.

Hussein enacted DACA which delays deportation but provides no path to citizenship. DACA people are not eligible to receive healthcare from the exchanges.



Eat shit, pretty please.  I'll speak how I like.

And no, it wasn't passed--your hero Obumbles just enacted it all on his own by Executive fiat.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/Obama-issues-DREAM-order-215406-1.html
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: willcross on March 09, 2014, 04:45:36 PM
Eat shit, pretty please.  I'll speak how I like.

And no, it wasn't passed--your hero Obumbles just enacted it all on his own by Executive fiat.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/Obama-issues-DREAM-order-215406-1.html

Yeah, he enacted a similar program that provides no path to citizenship. I already told you that in a previous post:

"Hussein enacted DACA which delays deportation but provides no path to citizenship. DACA people are not eligible to receive healthcare from the exchanges."

Your cite agrees with me.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: willcross on March 09, 2014, 05:02:17 PM
There are only four pages of lies.  Obviously, the list isn't all-encompassing as he told that many lies the first few months.  No, I will not enumerate them.  You should have paid attention.  If you had, you wouldn't have voted for him the second time and you sure as hell wouldn't be here now making a nuisance of yourself.

If it's good enough for you guys, it's good enough for me

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/09/chain-email/illegal-immigrants-are-covered-under-health-care-l/

Note the "pants on fire" rating.


Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: NHSparky on March 09, 2014, 05:04:38 PM
Yeah, he enacted a similar program that provides no path to citizenship. I already told you that in a previous post:

"Hussein enacted DACA which delays deportation but provides no path to citizenship. DACA people are not eligible to receive healthcare from the exchanges."

Your cite agrees with me.

And yet Obama (and the Dems) WANT there to be full-blown amnesty.

Didn't work under Reagan when he did it in 1986 when there were "only" 2 million illegals here.

Sure as shit won't work with 10-12 million here.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: NHSparky on March 09, 2014, 05:06:48 PM
If it's good enough for you guys, it's good enough for me

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2013/jul/09/chain-email/illegal-immigrants-are-covered-under-health-care-l/

Note the "pants on fire" rating.




Seriously, why are you even using Politifact as a "source"?  It's lazy, like a college kid writing a paper citing Wikipedia.

Furthermore, Politifact is run by one of the most left-wing papers in the country.  They'll only call Obama's lie actual lies when it's so blatant even they can't deny it.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: willcross on March 09, 2014, 05:10:43 PM
Seriously, why are you even using Politifact as a "source"?  It's lazy, like a college kid writing a paper citing Wikipedia.

Furthermore, Politifact is run by one of the most left-wing papers in the country.  They'll only call Obama's lie actual lies when it's so blatant even they can't deny it.

It was in response to a previous poster (that I quoted) using it as a source for Obama's lies (4 pages worth). Or is it only valid when it's in the best interest of conservatives?
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: willcross on March 09, 2014, 05:12:29 PM
And yet Obama (and the Dems) WANT there to be full-blown amnesty.

Didn't work under Reagan when he did it in 1986 when there were "only" 2 million illegals here.

Sure as shit won't work with 10-12 million here.

I agree. I'm not in favor of amnesty. I'm simply stating the facts as related to illegals receiving government healthcare. They can't, even if protected under Obamas self enacted version of Dream. It was kind of a big deal in the immigrant community actually and they are pissed about it.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: txradioguy on March 11, 2014, 07:38:59 AM
I agree. I'm not in favor of amnesty. I'm simply stating the facts as related to illegals receiving government healthcare. They can't, even if protected under Obamas self enacted version of Dream. It was kind of a big deal in the immigrant community actually and they are pissed about it.

And yet they are still finding ways to get it.  Especially in California.

 :whatever:
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: NHSparky on March 11, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
And yet they are still finding way sot get it.  Especially in California.

 :whatever:

TRG--I highly suggest our "noob" get on the KFI website and listen to the simulcast of the John and Ken show for a few days.

Not only did I find their show pretty enjoyable and funny, but from time to time it pissed me off.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: Dori on March 11, 2014, 10:18:14 AM
TRG--I highly suggest our "noob" get on the KFI website and listen to the simulcast of the John and Ken show for a few days.

Not only did I find their show pretty enjoyable and funny, but from time to time it pissed me off.

John and Ken are pot and pan bangers.  They're always on California's case. I wouldn't call them conservatives necessarily, but they have no love for "stupid", which seems to be all CA is these days.

Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: txradioguy on March 11, 2014, 10:25:21 AM
TRG--I highly suggest our "noob" get on the KFI website and listen to the simulcast of the John and Ken show for a few days.

Not only did I find their show pretty enjoyable and funny, but from time to time it pissed me off.

I prefer Brian Sussman at KSFO. But you're right those two are funny.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: Eupher on March 11, 2014, 10:54:47 AM
It was in response to a previous poster (that I quoted) using it as a source for Obama's lies (4 pages worth). Or is it only valid when it's in the best interest of conservatives?

It's a valid source of information, but don't get your panties in a wad thinking that it's all-encompassing. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Title: Re: illegals are eligible for obamacare?
Post by: NHSparky on March 11, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
John and Ken are pot and pan bangers.  They're always on California's case. I wouldn't call them conservatives necessarily, but they have no love for "stupid", which seems to be all CA is these days.



They're not conservatives--they've admitted such.  They're far closer to "small L" libertarians.