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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on March 06, 2014, 12:14:52 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014746656
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 01:40 AM
bananas (22,405 posts)
USDA to Allow Chickens From U.S. to Be Shipped to China for Processing and Back to U.S. for Consumpt
Source: EcoWatch
Scores of Americans are in an uproar since Food Safety News revealed the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) will soon allow U.S. chickens to be sent to China for processing before being shipped back to the states for human consumption.
This arrangement is especially disturbing given China’s subpar food safety record and the fact that there are no plans to station on-site USDA inspectors at Chinese plants. Also, American consumers won’t know which brands of chicken are processed in China because there’s no requirement to label it as such.
To ease concerns, lobbyists and chicken industry proponents argue no U.S. company will ever ship chicken to China for processing because it wouldn’t work economically.
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Yet, a similar process is already being used for U.S. seafood.
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Read more: http://ecowatch.com/2014/03/05/usda-chickens-shipped-china/
You can thank BJ Billy Boy.
Response to Not Sure (Reply #1)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 08:58 AM
woo me with science (24,948 posts)
39. We? I rarely use that word in connection with this government anymore.
This admini$tration and most of Congre$$ sure as hell are not representing me.
Getting closer to the edge.
Response to freshwest (Reply #4)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:02 AM
classykaren (249 posts)
11. Thank you for the information. Don't ya just love the one percent.
A large majority are democrats.
Response to freshwest (Reply #4)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:13 AM
Star Member closeupready (21,188 posts)
49. A friend of mine bought some fish sticks from a 99 cent store recently.
Much as I've tried to inform him about the dice-i-ness of consuming such processed food products, he can't resist what appears to be a bargain. He made them for dinner, and we ate them - they actually tasted okay, but I won't touch them again.
Dollar store fish sticks :???: :???: :???:
Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #16)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:03 AM
Star Member Ed Suspicious (2,078 posts)
18. Healthy food for the well-to-do, **** all for the rest is the problem with this idea. $20 chicken
is not a regular option for my family. I work for wages that, while higher than that of a Chinese slaughterhouse worker, haven't increased in years and I built my life around 3 dollar per pound chicken
Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #18)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 05:42 AM
Star Member Le Taz Hot (16,838 posts)
22. Sweetheart, I'm hardly well-do-do.
I've been poor most of my life. Seriously, I'm sorry you chose to take my post in that way. No, $20.00 per chicken is not going to be possible for many people. I understand that. I only get like 2 a month because *I* can't afford any more than that. The way I stretch that is by baking the chicken wherein I get maybe 4-6 meals out of it, then I use the bones and left over meat to make chicken and dumplings or chicken soup wherein I get another probably 6-8 more meals.
Unfortunately, the alternative is to buy cheaper chicken but you've no idea if that chicken has been shipped to China where there are NO meat inspectors and the conditions in which they are processed are abhorrent by our standards. And, as any restaurant worker will tell you, chicken is the one commodity that can be so easily contaminated. It's why it's kept on the lowest shelf in a commercial refrigerator. It's the meat with the highest chance of e-Coli and botulism. Nasty nasty stuff that you don't want to have even a chance of contamination that can, literally, kill you.
I also have a veggie garden in my postage-stamp-sized back yard so that helps supplement my grocery bill considerably. I'm also fortunate enough to live in farm country and people know that I'm a canning fool so it's not unusual for people to bring me produce which I'm able to can for use is in the off-season.
Truly, ES, I do understand, most profoundly, limited income. I've dealt with it most of my life.
Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #16)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 07:39 AM
Star Member Eleanors38 (7,102 posts)
27. Or hunt. I have 2 deer in the freezer, 30 dove, too.
Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #27)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:03 AM
Star Member Le Taz Hot (16,838 posts)
47. I don't derive pleasure out of killing animals.
There are animals that are bred specifically for their meat and the local ranchers know how to raise them humanely and kill them humanely. I prefer my deer alive, beautiful and free, as they're supposed to be. And there's a beautiful grey dove right outside my window as we speak who is cooing calmly. I derive great pleasure from that sound. I'd much rather her alive than dead.
You prefer someone else to kill it then wrap it in cellophane in a grocery store.
Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #47)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:52 AM
Star Member Eleanors38 (7,102 posts)
54. Neither do I, but I prefer killing directly than by agency...
I completely understand the squeamishness in the killing, skinning & slaughtering process (which is also hard work), but if you did hunt, you would find few hunters gain pleasure from killing, and even less from suffering. That's why most hunters take care when shooting; even the celebrations are centered on taking a desired animal, its recovery, and quick death.
I agree both deer and dove are beautiful. During off-season, have reported injured deer to animal rescue agencies, and finished off crippled dove when I have found them -- and properly cleaned them for a later meal. Both species are in abundant supply; the former can be found along roadways in great numbers, and usually alive.
Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #54)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:57 AM
Star Member Le Taz Hot (16,838 posts)
56. Or . . .
you people could just go to the grocery store or farmers markets like everybody else and allow wild, free things to live. And yes, you people DO derive pleasure from killing. It's why you buy your pew pew toys and, in order to use them, something must die in the process.
I've no respect for anyone who does what you do. None.
:thatsright: I should have read further.
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Think we found the author of this:
(http://www.lolwtfcomics.com/upload/uploads/1322201415.jpg)
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I clicked through the links and nowhere do I find anything that actually states it is to be done,just a bunch of assertions and even then with no presumed basis for them.
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Think we found the author of this:
(http://www.lolwtfcomics.com/upload/uploads/1322201415.jpg)
:lol:
Reminds me of the radio show where the lady called in about deer crossings..... :rotf:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K3MoxlCaJ4[/youtube]
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2 deer and 30 doves......high priced meat if DUmmie didn't kill it with a club.
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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #54)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:57 AM
Star Member Le Taz Hot (16,838 posts)
56. Or . . .
you people could just go to the grocery store or farmers markets like everybody else and allow wild, free things to live. And yes, you people DO derive pleasure from killing. It's why you buy your pew pew toys and, in order to use them, something must die in the process.
I've no respect for anyone who does what you do. None.
Wow... so much stupid in one reply. If the wild, free, things you love aren't hunted by the highest predator on the food chain (like it or not, we have hunted most of the predators that can kill a deer to almost exctinction in the 19th century) i.e. human beings, then the wild animal stocks will have overpopulation. This will lead to animals starving in the wild, a long, slow death.
While I do not hunt personally, I do understand the purpose behind it. To not let people hunt, will cause the populations of deer (for example) to explode exponentially. And they will move where they can get food easily and not worry about what few natural predators may be out there... the suburbs.
That means you will be running over the dear you love so much Le Taz Hot. Which is more humane? getting a well placed shot from a 175 grain projectile and dying quickly? Or being hit by a car by an idiot like yourself and left to die slowly and painfully on the side of one of our roads while causing damage to your precious hybrid (I'm sure you have one you sanctimonious b**ch)?
Your ignorance of the Law of Unintended Consequences astounds me and amazes me. :banghead:
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Let's see. We ship 1000 chickens to China, and we get 1100 dressed chickens back. Is that how it works? No, no, no! We don't import chicken from China...(http://www.conservativecave.com/Smileys/default/whistling.gif)
I like canned snack meats like herring, pigs feet/knuckles, Vienna sausages, luncheon meat (aka Spam), etc. But I always check the label for "Product of ______".
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Let's see. We ship 1000 chickens to China, and we get 1100 dressed chickens back. Is that how it works? No, no, no! We don't import chicken from China...(http://www.conservativecave.com/Smileys/default/whistling.gif)
I like canned snack meats like herring, pigs feet/knuckles, Vienna sausages, luncheon meat (aka Spam), etc. But I always check the label for "Product of ______".
Loved those things as a teenager. Haven't had any in the last 50 years though.
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC_q9KPczAg[/youtube]
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Think we found the author of this:
(http://www.lolwtfcomics.com/upload/uploads/1322201415.jpg)
Obama voters. :argh:
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So, to recap...
The primitives pout about poultry processed in the Pacific people's paradise, but it's cheaper to choke your chicken in China than to choke your chicken in Chattanooga, because Chinese chicken chokers choke chickens for chicken feed.
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So, to recap...
The primitives pout about poultry processed in the Pacific people's paradise, but it's cheaper to choke your chicken in China than to choke your chicken in Chattanooga, because Chinese chicken chokers choke chickens for chicken feed.
And it kills their kitty.
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So, to recap...
The primitives pout about poultry processed in the Pacific people's paradise, but it's cheaper to choke your chicken in China than to choke your chicken in Chattanooga, because Chinese chicken chokers choke chickens for chicken feed.
Good one :hi5:
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC_q9KPczAg[/youtube]
Hi 5! Me too! :cheersmate:
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Think we found the author of this:
(http://www.lolwtfcomics.com/upload/uploads/1322201415.jpg)
That's hilarious and, very sad, at the same time. The complete disconnect from common sense and empirically experienced reality is shattering.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:57 AM
Star Member Le Taz Hot (16,838 posts)
56. Or . . .
you people could just go to the grocery store or farmers markets like everybody else and allow wild, free things to live. And yes, you people DO derive pleasure from killing. It's why you buy your pew pew toys and, in order to use them, something must die in the process.
I've no respect for anyone who does what you do. None.
(http://thislandisourland.wikispaces.com/file/view/buffalohunt.jpg/165009669/717x346/buffalohunt.jpg)
They moved the Buffalo to Aisle 6 last week.
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I clicked through the links and nowhere do I find anything that actually states it is to be done,just a bunch of assertions and even then with no presumed basis for them.
Typical (D)Ummies. Assume the worst possible. Modify fact and add conjecture. Stir briskly and serve bouncy chilled. The fact that these people are still breathing our air, should discount Darwinism. They should all be dead. Most would, if not for the ones who play with their "pew pew" toys in the employ of their rich Uncle.
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So, to recap...
The primitives pout about poultry processed in the Pacific people's paradise, but it's cheaper to choke your chicken in China than to choke your chicken in Chattanooga, because Chinese chicken chokers choke chickens for chicken feed.
Genius! :hi5:
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608012230671205989&pid=1.7)
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Typical (D)Ummies. Assume the worst possible. Modify fact and add conjecture. Stir briskly and serve bouncy chilled. The fact that these people are still breathing our air, should discount Darwinism.
Blame it on warning labels. Damned things are everywhere! (DUmmies, too!)
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Just remembered something about these mentally ill, hypocritical ****s, remember how they were all RAH RAH about "free range" and "that's eeeeevilllll" about processing plants? Now it's "Don't kill the poor wittle wild, free animals, buy from the grocery store!"
Inconsistent pricks.
Le Taz Hot (16,854 posts)
56. Or . . .
you people could just go to the grocery store or farmers markets like everybody else and allow wild, free things to live. And yes, you people DO derive pleasure from killing. It's why you buy your pew pew toys and, in order to use them, something must die in the process.
I've no respect for anyone who does what you do. None.
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"Death panels?Who needs death panels with a free Chinese poison chicken in every pot.
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"Death panels?Who needs death panels with a free Chinese poison chicken in every pot.
And a Tesla in every garage!
(http://brownscleaners.web13.hubspot.com/Portals/204017/images/house-fire.jpg)