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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: I_B_Perky on February 22, 2014, 09:19:27 PM
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Found this trawling the dump:
The OP:
AAO (2,664 posts)
The next civil war is coming. It is almost inevitable.
And it will be not unlike the first American civil war - but this time it will be conservative vs. liberal. Actually it will be heavily armed and dangerous morons against the sane people of this country. It just seems that the heavily armed dangerous morons tend to vote republican. Most sane, or educated, or well traveled people tend to vote for a saner party. The tea-party(R) destroyed the Republican party and I will forever be in their debt.
If they want to fight, they should be reminded that we currently control the nukes. (now THAT is ).
The link:
civil war? (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024547962)
The comments:
Auggie (17,922 posts)
1. There will be civil unrest due to food and water shortages as climate change takes hold
but not an actual civil war.
OK....
RKP5637 (28,002 posts)
2. Just judging from what's going on in CA with water, we're heading there, probably. n/t
I guess Mexifornia has never had a drought.
Auggie (17,922 posts)
10. A perfect storm is brewing
• Food and water shortages brought on by climate change.
• Ever increasing division of wealth between the 1% and 99%.
• An increase in poor but well-armed people.
• Plutocracy, thanks to Citizens United.
It'll be rich vs. poor.
Poor but well armed people? Most of the well armed people, outside of inner city gangs are employed and don't complain about their lot in life... unlike the dump.
davekriss (2,859 posts)
15. Inevitable class war
Occupy wall street anyone?
Lurks Often (2,195 posts)
3. Probably not. I think we'd see a Constitutional Convention before that
The real question is would the Federal government acknowledge the decisions of the Constitutional Convention and would they prevent the break up of the 50 states through force if some states refused to acknowledge the result of the Constitutional Convention and wished to leave the United States.
CatholicEdHead (9,543 posts)
31. Republicans are pushing for that in many states already
The Religious Right wants to rewrite the constitution.
Really? I never heard of that, dummie.
FSogol (18,868 posts)
5. Unrec. Ridiculous hyperbole.
My mole? You decide.
blkmusclmachine (7,802 posts)
11. BRING. IT. ON. (mutherf/ckers)
:badass:
AlinPA (14,359 posts)
12. I've never seen the split between Americans this bad except for the Vietnam War era. IMO, before
there is an actual civil war we will see red states seceding. The right wing teabaggers have not yet gone to violence as I had earlier expected they would, but if a Democratic candidate wins the next presidential election, the crazies could explode. It would be a matter for law enforcement, not a civil war.
Most LEO are conservative, dummie.
grasswire (39,289 posts)
26. why would they secede?
the blue states support them
Dummie grasswire never got the Soros memo that this was debunked a long time ago.
First Speaker (134 posts)
23. I don't know about "civil war"...but we are less politically stable than many think...
...and here's a simple example. 2016, 2020--we have another razor-thin election. What happens if the Repubs try and steal another one, especially if they have fewer popular votes? What if Scalia and Thomas are *still* on the Court, and decide again in favor of the Republican? Think it couldn't happen again? I do. Would the Dems just sit back and take it next time? I believe another crisis of that sort would seriously test our whole system, much more than 2000 did.
Or just look at the crazy laws the GOP is pushing in the states. The sheer hatred of the poor, the helpless, and of course women and minorities...what if they ratch up the attacks on voting rights? I believe there will be a breaking point if they do, and it might well trend towards violence. Stolen elections, suppression of voting...anyone think that couldn't lead to a Venezuela/Ukraine type of crisis here?
One more--nullification. This is openly becoming respectable in state GOP circles. This has not been an issue in the US since Appomattox. If it becomes one again, the very legitimacy of the Constitutional system will, in my opinion, be up for grabs. No President could tolerate it for long. Could you imagine the reaction of the Repubs, and the right in general, if a state *should* "nullify" a law, and the Kenyan Muslim Commie President should take action against that state? Think that's impossible? I don't.
I believe that today's GOP is quite literally trying to turn the US into a de facto one-party authoritarian state. Of course they don't *say* this--no one carries a sign saying, "I am a fascist". But their actions, especially in the state legislatures, certainly indicate this. And no one can deny their contempt for liberal democracy. Either they succeed, or they will have to be stopped. And if they keep rigging the game, "stopping" them by peaceful means might become impossible. When that happens, God knows what might occur in this country. But we are further down the path of authoritarian, Disneyfied "democracy" than I would have thought possible.
Substitute Dem for repub and the first part of the dummie comment is true.
AAO (2,664 posts)
28. As I told my son today
Some of the more virulent teabag types think the US would be better if they rounded up and put all liberals int FEMA camps. And since the majority of black Americans are liberals, they get an added bonus to tickle their racist bones. Problem with their little pipe dream is if they get rid of all the liberals they would quickly turn the US into the Soviet Union. Twenty-five years from the destruction of the Soviet Union, to it's resurrection right here in what used to be "the good ol' USA". It would be a certainty.
A good portion of the black americans are on welfare, dumbass. Let us try a little experiment dummie... cut off welfare to everyone be they white, black, brown. See who riots.
Next thing is if there is no repub party then the dems will do exactly what you say. And a good portion of your race will end up dead. Not because they are black, but because they serve no useful purpose to society. In other words... net takers. That don't fly in a dictatorship.
chrisa (3,460 posts)
24. Of the current "militias" in this country, 95% won't leave their mom's basement, and the rest are e-warriors.
95 percent of the militias just want to be left alone. Leave them alone, they leave you alone. The ones in mom's basements are all dummies.
airplaneman (311 posts)
29. We are teetering on republican or democratic control.
2014 and 2016 will be pivotal for the next generation. If the Republicans win we are finished and we will sea oceans of poverty spread throughout this country. If the Democrats win we can still not win unless we get an FDR type democrat in and sweeping populist change. We must be successful voting the Republicans out of existence and get a strong popular movement for FDR type change. If not there will be 10's of millions of people homeless in the streets with 10's of millions more seeing this as their fate. We will see riots, shootings, and suicide bomber as huge number of people see no hope for the future add to this the possibility of the collapse of farming with global warming - I don't think people realize how quickly things can degrade into anarchy.
-Airplane
Ummm yo dummie? What is the unemployment rate again?
La Lioness Priyanka (46,872 posts)
32. people can't even bother to get up to vote, you think they will go into war?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Loaded Liberal Dem (199 posts)
41. Sane person here, with six guns
Five of which I didn't have before the 2010 election.
Obeeekaybeee!!!
AAO (2,664 posts)
43. Great - we're going to need people with heavy firepower.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Vashta Nerada (2,968 posts)
42. If there ever was another civil war, it'd be between the haves and have-nots.
Translation: It would be between the welfare parasites and the working folks... then we have this:
AAO (2,664 posts)
44. Well, yeah, but that would be a very short one.
He is correct. The working folks will defend what they worked for. The welfare parasites will run when lead starts coming their way.
That is it for now. Might get big, might not.
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I saw this, and thought about bringing it over--just half an hour ago.
The AA primitive sounds an awful lot like the TheMastersNumbskull primitive.
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I saw this, and thought about bringing it over--just half an hour ago.
The AA primitive sounds an awful lot like the TheMastersNumbskull primitive.
Great minds and all that Frank! :cheersmate:
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Actually it will be heavily armed ... against the (other) people of this country
Yep.
And all you faggy gun grabbers will be on the losing side.
I am OK with internment camps. They were 100% correct that there were many Japanese spies on the west coast in WWII.
If we were smart, we would also not allow liberals to breed. Easily done -- just don't let them turn off the lights and take their blindfolds away.
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Great minds and all that Frank! :cheersmate:
The reason I didn't bring it over was because I was kind of grossed out by the attitude of the AA primitive; he's got a really disturbed, convulsive, volatile mind-set.
Again, like the TheMastersNumbskull primitive.
I hope the authorities are keeping an eye on this one.
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The reason I didn't bring it over was because I was kind of grossed out by the attitude of the AA primitive; he's got a really disturbed, convulsive, volatile mind-set.
Again, like the TheMastersNumbskull primitive.
I hope the authorities are keeping an eye on this one.
Not to worry.... the NSA sees all on the internet, Frank! I'm sure somewhere in NSA-land the dummie's OP is setting off review flags.
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The reason I didn't bring it over was because I was kind of grossed out by the attitude of the AA primitive; he's got a really disturbed, convulsive, volatile mind-set.
And this differs from the other primitives how...?
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And this differs from the other primitives how...?
Well, you know, for me, words are "paint" used in making a "picture."
While reading the AA primitive's comments, I kept seeing a guy with half his hair missing, a bug-eye and the other eye way over to one side, dripping nasal apertures, buck teeth, drool and slobber dripping down onto his chest as he fondled and kissed a loaded revolver.
Not a pretty picture at all.
<<<has a vivid imagination.
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Well, you know, for me, words are "paint" used in making a "picture."
While reading the AA primitive's comments, I kept seeing a guy with half his hair missing, a bug-eye and the other eye way over to one side, dripping nasal apertures, buck teeth, drool and slobber dripping down onto his chest as he fondled and kissed a loaded revolver.
Not a pretty picture at all.
<<<has a vivid imagination.
That is borderline psychotropic, Coach!
But vivid. I suggest you jot down these, um, imaginings and when you have enough send them to James Cameron to make his next bazillion dollar blockbuster.
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That is borderline psychotropic, Coach!
But vivid. I suggest you jot down these, um, imaginings and when you have enough send them to James Cameron to make his next bazillion dollar blockbuster.
That's why even though we got a rather impressive picture gallery of the primitives--not here, but somewhere else on the internet--there's some primitives I'd rather not see pictures of, because the imagination draws them better; it captures not only their skin-deep features, but their inner souls.
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We'll win 5 minutes after the EBT cards get shut off.
It's not like these idiots value the ability to survive on their own.
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We'll win 5 minutes after the EBT cards get shut off.
It's not like these idiots value the ability to survive on their own.
They will be too busy breaking into stores and stealing TV's and stuff before they figure out they are gonna starve, Sarge. That and the drug stores. Then while they are all stoned and sleeping it off at 0-dark-thirty, they will get nailed by people like us that actually have gotten up in the morning to go to work. Assuming we waste our time. These fools cannot take care of themselves now... when the organic waste matter hits the impeller they will do what they have always done: Riot and steal stuff. Once that stuff runs out... they will be helpless. All working folks have to do is barricade them in until they starve to death. :cheersmate:
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California's problems have more to do with letting the environmentalist wackos control the water to save endangered sucker fish, which they see more important than endangered farmers.
However, if San Diego is any indication, the left is in trouble.
They're always predicting revolution. Not one of them would participate, they'd all expect 0bama to protect them. Won't happen, he'll be covering his own ass.
Cindie
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AAO (2,664 posts)
28. As I told my son today
Some of the more virulent teabag types think the US would be better if they rounded up and put all liberals int FEMA camps. And since the majority of black Americans are liberals, they get an added bonus to tickle their racist bones. Problem with their little pipe dream is if they get rid of all the liberals they would quickly turn the US into the Soviet Union. Twenty-five years from the destruction of the Soviet Union, to it's resurrection right here in what used to be "the good ol' USA". It would be a certainty.
Just when you think they can`t get any stupider they prove the horizons are limitless.
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I suppose they did kinda step off their porch once with occupy whatever.
Near as I can remember they got laughed off the stage.
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We should start a new game called "Mole or just really stupid?"
markmyword (84 posts)
50. The sooner the better!
Conservatives vs liberals or the western and southern states vs the northern states and California or Republicans vs Democrats = a Civil War!
In other words, our country will be divided into TWO separate countries.
For over a hundred years, we've been called the UNITED States of America, but it was in name only. The south never got over losing the war, they're values are totally different than the north
These red states don't think like the blue states and never will. These red states are backwards in their thinking,turning the clock back two hundred years. They're gun toting, anti women, anti gays, anti abortion, anti government, anti civil rights, anti climate change, anti blacks, anti immigrants and anti education.
America is at a stand still with these conservatives blocking our future. They are destroying what Constitution we have left and our country.
When more of the middle class falls into poverty, that's when the people might rise up against the powers that be.
No one cares about the poor, but when it hits home and more middle and upper middle class people are unemployed and losing their homes, because of the conservatives, that's when we'll see people in the streets.
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We should start a new game called "Mole or just really stupid?"
Interesting concept.
But I think that in order to mole the Dump you must say stupid things.
So mole, stupid...one in the same.
I used to keep a list of Dummies that I suspected of being moles...it got boring after awhile so I didn't keep after it.
Everybody on that list has got the ban hammer.
If you (and I admit I can't do it) want to be be a DUmmie mole you must type dangerously stupid things.
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What the primitives fail to acknowledge is that in a battle of "have vs. have not" that conservatives are automatically going to hunt down and shoot liberals. Whether they have or have not is irrelevant. The problem isn't who has and who doesn't have; it's liberalism.
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Response to AAO (Original post)Sun Feb 23, 2014, 02:43 AM
markmyword (84 posts)
50. The sooner the better!
Conservatives vs liberals or the western and southern states vs the northern states and California or Republicans vs Democrats = a Civil War!
In other words, our country will be divided into TWO separate countries.
Republicans vs Democrats again, just like the last civil war was the Republicans vs Democrats and it will end the same way too.
*I admit that New York was democrat back then same as it is now and they sided with the Union, but Abe Lincoln sent the New Yorkers a reassuring letter to keep them on board:
What I do about Slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save this Union, and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause.
http://www.nytimes.com/1862/08/24/news/letter-president-lincoln-reply-horace-greeley-slavery-union-restoration-union.html
As long as the New York democrats could be convinced that the goal was to save the Union and not to free the slaves, they could get on board with the idea.
DUmmies who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
George Santayana
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AAO (2,664 posts)
If they want to fight, they should be reminded that we currently control the nukes. (now THAT is ).
Again, the little fascists just love them some nuclear weapons. Oh, and (D)Ummie. Studies have shown that Tea Party folks are better educated and higher earners than you parasites.
To wit:
When more of the middle class falls into poverty, that's when the people might rise up against the powers that be.
I rest my case. You're "the man", not us.
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Again, the little fascists just love them some nuclear weapons. Oh, and (D)Ummie. Studies have shown that Tea Party folks are better educated and higher earners than you parasites.
Actually, the parasites are afraid the producers will rise up against the parasites thus initiating the civil war they predict but not really wanting. A civil war between the haves and the have nots will derail their gravy train.
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They really think life is like a TV show or movie.
Lets say that King Barry pushes too far and the public actually rebels.
Guess what DUmbasses,his decrees will first fall on local LEO...they will have to make a personal decision as to whether they will follow through with trying to suppress a real national uprising.
My guess is those who decide to would find themselves outnumbered very quickly.
Next I suppose would be to try to mobilize guard units with the same issue of will they decide to defend a tyrant operating in opposition to the Constitution.
From there possibly the regular military with the same questions.
Bottom line is that this is not 1861 with communication limits,transportation limits and industrial capacity variables.
Take a look,the rust belt is hardly ready to respond to anything.
It would be a new day and given how much you DUmbass lunatics have expressed nothing but hatred for those in place of maintaining civil order I would not be too sure of your surmised outcome.
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I bet a psychology major could do a dissertation on that thread alone. The revealing of the DUchebag's diseased mind in their comments give a very disturbing picture. Threads like this are why the DUmp should be abolished for the good of the mentally ill that are not moles.
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I bet a psychology major could do a dissertation on that thread alone. The revealing of the DUchebag's diseased mind in their comments give a very disturbing picture. Threads like this are why the DUmp should be abolished for the good of the mentally ill that are not moles.
Hmmm.
Isn't the primitive call for a civil war contradictory?
I thought their Great Leader's solved all problems afflicting America since January 20, 2009, and that everything's hunky-dory; full employment, no inflation, free medical care for all, America respected throughout the world, open and transparent government, &c., &c., &c.
I thought things were going okay here. Why a civil war?
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Hmmm.
Isn't the primitive call for a civil war contradictory?
I thought their Great Leader's solved all problems afflicting America since January 20, 2009, and that everything's hunky-dory; full employment, no inflation, free medical care for all, America respected throughout the world, open and transparent government, &c., &c., &c.
I thought things were going okay here. Why a civil war?
No, the DUmpmonkiez are calling for a good old Stalinist purge of all the unbelievers.
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What gets me about liberals every time is they fail their very own litmus test for most tolerant, open-minded people on the planet when they start in with the ridiculous stereotypes of what it is to be a conservative, live in the south, Christian, etc. I always am just flabbergasted at their total inability to use introspection and see just how stupid it sounds to proclaim the moral high ground they want to claim and then throw out a bunch of lame, outdated stereotypes. I couldn't even let inconsistencies like they type come out of my mouth without feeling very uncomfortable at my own hypocracy. WOW!
As for camps, well, liberals seem content to live as prisoners to the government pittance on the backs of others anyway. Putting them in an internment camp would be far more honest about what they have created of many lower income people ie slaves/prisoners. I'd never advocate for such a thing personally, but it seems hilariously silly for them to worry about being a prisoner when the welfare system they have created is basically that without visual and literal bars to stare at. The most shallow thinking people on the planet apparently live at the dump.
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We'll win 5 minutes after the EBT cards get shut off.
It's not like these idiots value the ability to survive on their own.
Oh, they might raid a few WalMarts, but after they've done that, what then? Most of the moocher class leads a hand-to-mouth existence, and thinks no farther than their next handout.