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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SarasotaRepub on February 20, 2014, 04:07:55 PM
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This is a greyt one!!! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4533454)
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:23 AM
Ichingcarpenter (29,861 posts)
Donald Sutherland: 'I want Hunger Games to stir up a revolution' [View all]
Donald Sutherland wants to stir revolt. A real revolt. A youth-led uprising against injustice that will overturn the US as we know it and usher in a kinder, better way. "I hope that they will take action because it's getting drastic in this country." Drone strikes. Corporate tax dodging. Racism. The Keystone oil pipeline. Denying food stamps to "starving Americans". It's all going to pot. "It's not right. It's not right."
Millennials need awakening from slumber. "You know the young people of this society have not moved in the last 30 years." With the exception of Occupy, a minority movement, passivity reigns. "They have been consumed with telephones." The voice hardens. "Tweeting."
We are high up in a Four Seasons hotel overlooking Beverly Hills, sunlight glinting off mansions and boutiques below, an unlikely cradle of revolution. Sutherland, resplendent in a dark suit and red tie, is pushing 80. But he is quite serious about the call to arms. "We did it in '68."
The Canadian actor has a venerable record of leftwing activism dating back to support for the Black Panthers and opposition to the Vietnam war, but this latest foray into subversion dovetails with promoting The Hunger Games: Catching Fire, the second instalment in a series of four films based on Suzanne Collins's bestselling novels for young adults. It takes forward the story of Katniss, played by Jennifer Lawrence, who must fight other oppressed proles to the death as part of a tyrannical government's strategy of rule through fear. The dystopia, called Panem, is built on the ashes of the US, and Sutherland wants young audiences to respond to the allegory. "Hopefully they will see this film and the next film and the next film and then maybe organise. Stand up."
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/19/donald-sutherland-hunger-games-catching-fire
DUmmies try and out DUmmie each other, nadin adds to it, this is a good one!!!
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Nothing more pathetic than an aging, irrelevant liberal trying to relive his glory days on the backs of the lazy, irrelevant spawn his movement created.
Cindie
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What's really hilarious is that libs still think they are some kind of counter culture sticking it to the man when in fact they are the man.
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Nice little slap-fest they have going on over there. :catfight:
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Oh my Gawd.
pukepukepuke.....
nadinbrzezinski (129,870 posts) Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:35 PM
49. Where were you when Occupy started
that was a chance. I was there. How about you?
I am sick and tired of this, but your generation did this and that.
There is more, many of the Occupiers were the same people you blame for the ills. Where were you?
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
PowerToThePeople (3,571 posts) Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:39 PM
50. Occupy is great
They are also the same people that Sutherland is claiming have been in a slumber for 30 years. Ocuppy is Millennials, X, Boomer, and Greatest. I will accept fault in my statements if my responders here will accept the same fault in Sutherland's statements.
nadinbrzezinski (129,870 posts) Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:42 PM
51. In other words you were sitting at home
I thought so.
Have a good day, and by the way, your handle is irony on steroids.
PowerToThePeople (3,571 posts) Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:48 PM
53. Be careful what you judge
You do NOT know my history, what I have or have not done. You do not know what my situation in winter 2011/2012 was.
nadinbrzezinski (129,870 posts) Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:49 PM
54. I am not judging, at least not anymore than you are.
I asked a simple question, you answered it. That is all there is to it.
PowerToThePeople (3,571 posts) Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:54 PM
55. True
And, as I posted above in another sub-thread, I am at fault for the current goings on. The fact that I have not done enough is one of the reasons it is still continuing. It is sometimes a very hard pill to swallow.
I appreciate your posts here, so do not care to be at odds with you.
^^^what a ****ing wimp.
nadinbrzezinski (129,870 posts) Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:59 PM
58. That's ok, my serious posts are done off site anymore
but I will tell you a lesson from reading a lot of history. Each generation has it's moment of truth, In fact several moments.
You are telling us that a man who actually risked career is wrong in asking where were the youth? My very limited view of ONLY ONE Occupy camp tells me that some were there. But many of the leaders were the exact same people you are bemoaning. They took that step. Some were grandmas, on walkers mind you. Some have been active all their lives. They started by burning draft cards by the way.
Robert Reich has a far better view of WHY the kids were not there. We have enslaved them, we as in our culture. Not you, not me. So be careful about pointing fingers. You might very well be talking to people who actually took to the streets. They will take it personally. And for the record, so should Mr. Sutherland.
Oh and by the way, occupy is far from dead, locally they are very active. They are just not doing it under the banner of Occupy
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Response to PowerToThePeople (Reply #55)
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:59 PM
nadinbrzezinski (129,870 posts)
58. That's ok, my serious posts are done off site anymore
but I will tell you a lesson from reading a lot of history. Each generation has it's moment of truth, In fact several moments.
You are telling us that a man who actually risked career is wrong in asking where were the youth? My very limited view of ONLY ONE Occupy camp tells me that some were there. But many of the leaders were the exact same people you are bemoaning. They took that step. Some were grandmas, on walkers mind you. Some have been active all their lives. They started by burning draft cards by the way.
Robert Reich has a far better view of WHY the kids were not there. We have enslaved them, we as in our culture. Not you, not me. So be careful about pointing fingers. You might very well be talking to people who actually took to the streets. They will take it personally. And for the record, so should Mr. Sutherland.
Oh and by the way, occupy is far from dead, locally they are very active. They are just not doing it under the banner of Occupy
Nads,when the revolution comes it will be both sides maneuvering to see who shoots you first.
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Nads,when the revolution comes it will be both sides maneuvering to see who shoots you first.
Good one.
And oh, so true.....
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Nothing more pathetic than an aging, irrelevant liberal trying to relive his glory days on the backs of the lazy, irrelevant spawn his movement created.
Cindie
Nothing more pathetic than a young, irrelevant liberal trying to dream of glory days with his lazy, irrelevant generation the aging, irrelevant liberal movement created.
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The DUches are so obtuse. Hunger Games is an indictment against the kind of government that Obama and the democrats are bringing to our country.
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The DUches are so obtuse. Hunger Games is an indictment against the kind of government that Obama and the democrats are bringing to our country.
How right you are. They are the ones working (Not exactly 'Tirelessly,' fortunately) for a totalitarian police state where every action is controlled and regulated for the good of the State, a State that will issue them their daily ration of kibble and sedate them with easy access to drugs.
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The DUches are so obtuse. Hunger Games is an indictment against the kind of government that Obama and the democrats are bringing to our country.
Indeed. It is (essentially) a modern retelling of 1984, combined with a modern retelling of The Running Man. Nearly all dystopian stories are about oppressive, leftist government control. The few that aren't are usually about oppressive theocracies, space aliens, or cyborgs.
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Oh and by the way, occupy is far from dead, locally they are very active. They are just not doing it under the banner of Occupy
"They don't call themselves Occupy, and none of them attended any Occupy protests, and their agenda has nothing to do with Occupy, but they're Occupy."
Need a graphic of that UFO guy labeled, "I'm not saying it's Occupy ... but it's Occupy"
So Pathetic that they're still trying to pretend that (bowel) movement had any relevance.
"B-b-but ... they put the term 'the 99 percent' into the national lexicon!!!"
Yeah, one person at urbandictionary.com can do that. :loser: :lmao:
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'Hunger Games' is hardly a rallying cry for big-government liberalism.
These people are so confused.
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Half the Occupoopers didn't even know why they were there. Some came out for the free food and drugs. It was more like a national convention for the homeless.
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Never did care that much for Sutherland. The scene in The Dirty Dozen where Lee Marvin has him impersonate a general was amusing. He was mostly an empty suit in MASH as Hawkeye Pierce. Invasion Of The Body Snatchers was good, but not because of him. The rest of his stuff is pretty forgetable.
He did give us the mighty Jack Bauer, though. So there's that.
:-)
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Never did care that much for Sutherland. The scene in The Dirty Dozen where Lee Marvin has him impersonate a general was amusing. He was mostly an empty suit in MASH as Hawkeye Pierce. Invasion Of The Body Snatchers was good, but not because of him. The rest of his stuff is pretty forgettable.
He pretty much phoned in his 'Hunger Games' role. I don't even thing they dragged a comb through his beard for the first movie.
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Nice little slap-fest they have going on over there. :catfight:
It was definitely worth rowing over.
Hell, I had to beat a couple of the proglodytes with an oar to keep them from jumping into the boat!
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What's the more ridiculous belief of Nadin?
Option 1: Nadin pretending that Occupy was some grand movement... when in actuality, they were shitting on themselves, raping each other, and getting messed up on drugs and alcohol.
Option 2: Nadin pretending that Donald Sutherland is risking his career by asserting a far-Left opinion in Far-Left Hollywood.
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I liked him in Kelly's Heroes and Eye of the Needle. Never gave a shit about his politics, and still don't.
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Never did care that much for Sutherland. The scene in The Dirty Dozen where Lee Marvin has him impersonate a general was amusing. He was mostly an empty suit in MASH as Hawkeye Pierce. Invasion Of The Body Snatchers was good, but not because of him. The rest of his stuff is pretty forgetable.
He did give us the mighty Jack Bauer, though. So there's that.
:-)
This whole business makes me want to watch "Lockup" again:
(http://stallonezone.com/imgs/news/2009/dec/122009lockup_warden.png)
A guy can dream...
CMD
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The rest of his stuff is pretty forgetable.
Disagree with this for one role he did in one of my favorite movies:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5cL-h3Pj1o[/youtube]
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The DUches are so obtuse. Hunger Games is an indictment against the kind of government that Obama and the democrats are bringing to our country.
You would think that our betters would know that. :whatever:
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Disagree with this for one role he did in one of my favorite movies:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5cL-h3Pj1o[/youtube]
Yeah, but he wasn't acting in Kellys' Heroes.
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Nothing more pathetic than a young, irrelevant liberal trying to dream of glory days with his lazy, irrelevant generation the aging, irrelevant liberal movement created.
Sutherland is loaded with movie money. Why doesn't he use that to do Good Works? Could it possibly be he suffers from LDGWOPM (Liberals Do Good Workws with Other People's Money) syndrome?
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Oh and by the way, occupy is far from dead, locally they are very active. They are just not doing it under the banner of Occupy
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/only-518-people-have-been-to-space-occupy-space.jpg)
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Nads,when the revolution comes it will be both sides maneuvering to see who shoots you first.
The only reason nads stays in CA is because having a gun, ANY GUN, is damned near impossible anymore. Imagine the bullets she'd be sweating the minute she crosses I-8 into Arizona, and not from the heat.
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The only reason nads stays in CA is because having a gun, ANY GUN, is damned near impossible anymore. Imagine the bullets she'd be sweating the minute she crosses I-8 into Arizona, and not from the heat.
Not sure now, but Winterhaven used to be a place that you really didn't want get stuck in. Limp along to Yuma, if you can.
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The DUmmies were just as obtuse in the FCC thread. They are completely self-centered, yet completely self-unaware.
Was it in The Big Chill where we had to see Donald's ass as he reached up for a coffee cup? I didn't need that.
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The DUches are so obtuse. Hunger Games is an indictment against the kind of government that Obama and the democrats are bringing to our country.
Perfectly said. The DUchebags failed in the interpretation of the series author's intent.
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Not sure now, but Winterhaven used to be a place that you really didn't want get stuck in. Limp along to Yuma, if you can.
It's no small wonder she regards Alpine as "far eastern California."
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The Sutherland guy is a mediocre actor at best.
Over acts, tends to steal scenes if he can. Bleh.
Too many out there far, far better.
Sucked in Kelly;s heros. Just plain sucked.
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Never did care that much for Sutherland. The scene in The Dirty Dozen where Lee Marvin has him impersonate a general was amusing. He was mostly an empty suit in MASH as Hawkeye Pierce. Invasion Of The Body Snatchers was good, but not because of him. The rest of his stuff is pretty forgetable.
He did give us the mighty Jack Bauer, though. So there's that.
:-)
I would add to your short list of good movies that he's been in Eye of the Needle, he made a good Nazi spy in that and as a pickpocket in The Great Train Robbery. I couldn't think of any off the top of my head, I had to cheat by looking through his movies on IMDB.
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I would add to your short list of good movies that he's been in Eye of the Needle, he made a good Nazi spy in that and as a pickpocket in The Great Train Robbery. I couldn't think of any off the top of my head, I had to cheat by looking through his movies on IMDB.
Over acts. Reminds me of Gibson and the couch-jumper.
Don't care for him at all.
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Don't forget Animal House !
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The DUmmies were just as obtuse in the FCC thread. They are completely self-centered, yet completely self-unaware.
Was it in The Big Chill where we had to see Donald's ass as he reached up for a coffee cup? I didn't need that.
Animal House. He had just slept with Otter's g/f (Karen Allen: she was to be the hot chick/long lost love in Raiders of the Lost Ark).
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Any revolutionary fire in The Hunger Games was doused by this:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRo3NFf37XA[/youtube]
As Mao Tse-tung said, "You won't find your revolution in a Happy Meal box."
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I had to cheat by looking through his movies on IMDB.
There's only one I remembered. It was when he played the father in "Pride and Prejudice". His voice is what I find interesting.
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There's only one I remembered. It was when he played the father in "Pride and Prejudice". His voice is what I find interesting.
His best role was as SGT Oddball . . . :whistling: